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Yanlord just delivered a Spectacular Results
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29-Mar-2019 16:18
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Been very rude. Contentious people | ||||
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runaway
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29-Mar-2019 16:12
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Are you blind? Can read this ? https://m.fang.com/news/suzhou/12188_30493668.html |
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runaway
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29-Mar-2019 16:02
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265 units sold at first launch in Sept 2016, followed by many subsequent launches over the next 2.5 years, and finally laylong sale a few days ago to let go 193 units.  The project has 1867 units! |
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CheeryVGoh
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29-Mar-2019 15:09
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Confusing! Why you kept saying 193 units left unsold since Sept 16? Sept 2016,  only 17 units left on the opening weekend, see below +++. The current batch (phrase)  of 193 units sold was not balance from the unsold units as claimed by you. They are from different batch.  Pls correct me if I understood wrongly.  +++ On 24 September 2016, the Group launched the inaugural batch of apartment units at Riverbay Gardens (江 湾 雅 园 ), Suzhou to strong demand from home buyers. Garnering over 1.264 billion in pre-sales, Yanlord sold approximately 94% or 248 of the 265 units launched on the opening weekend.  +++
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runaway
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29-Mar-2019 13:39
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It was landed houses earlier and a new thread introduced. Now spin-off, what is next?   |
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lifeisgood
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29-Mar-2019 13:34
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This one I cant tell. Not sure whether it is cosmetic or real. But selling something is better than nothing. However, at this rate of presales, I doubt it can match 2018 presales of approx RMB 12 billion. Some analyst were projecting higher presale this year, which seems like quite unrealistic unless China decided to boost the property market with some stimulus measures.  Can only wait and see. 
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runaway
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29-Mar-2019 13:28
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I suspect the one in Suzhou was a cosmetic move to make the 1Q rev look less ugly, probably at or below cost. The 193 units, left unsold since Sept 16, suddenly attracted 500 or more buyers, 不 是 laylong是 什 么 ?   |
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lifeisgood
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29-Mar-2019 12:17
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If Yanlord is serious about deleveraging, it should do at least one of the following: 1. Raise equity to improve the debt/equity ratio, by doing a placement or rights issue, 2. Sell off some of its existing landbank, either in here or in China 3. Launch and sell as many apartments as possible In one of analyst' s report , the Company told the analyst it is aware of its high gearing and wanted to lower it. So far we have not seen any concrete action yet, other than the RMB 1.15 billion of pre-sales of Riverbay Gardens in Suzhou yesterday.  Lets hope to see some real corporate actions soon, as I want to increase my investment in this Company, as long as I think it is going in the right direction.   |
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29-Mar-2019 11:16
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ew brewing
w0 130 w1?135 w2?132 w1 ?5 w2 ?3 now px hit low 132 - if supported long for w3/w5 cut w0 - week chart mid @131 strong support line w3 ?8 tgt 140 w4 ?3 tgt 137 w5 ?5 tgt 142
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runaway
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29-Mar-2019 10:31
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1Q19 results will confirm my forecast of rainy days ahead and a thunder storm for 2019. A few weeks before the release of 1Q19, the market would have an inkling of what is forthcoming. Look for an early sign and run!   |
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lifeisgood
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29-Mar-2019 09:17
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Listen to not what people say, but what China Vanke does. Vanke is trying to quickly deleveraging further, while Yanlord unfortunately has gone the other way. China Vanke can' t be that wrong.  | ||||
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lifeisgood
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29-Mar-2019 09:11
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Mainland Chinese developers face uncertainty amid a sharp drop in property sales. Photo: AFPProperty giant China Vanke aims to raise HK$7.8 billion (US$1 billion) through a placement of new shares as it prepares to deal with a slowdown in the housing market. Vanke, mainland China&rsquo s second-largest developer by sales, said it will place 263 million new shares on the Hong Kong stock exchange at a price of HK$29.68 apiece to raise HK$7.8 billion in capital. The announcement on Thursday came as the mainland&rsquo s developers face uncertainty amid a sharp drop in property sales. &ldquo They will not rake in the big bucks from selling homes this year as they have before,&rdquo said Toni Ho, an analyst at RHB OSK Securities Hong Kong. &ldquo It&rsquo s the best time [for the shares placement] now as the share prices are doing quite well, to get hold of sufficient money to have on hand, a healthier balance sheet and higher liquidity of its H shares to be in a better position to get funded onshore and offshore when the worst comes to the worst.&rdquo H shares is the term given to stocks in mainland Chinese firms traded in Hong Kong. Vanke has seen its shares surge 19 per cent this year, finishing Thursday at HK$31.55. The share sale will cut Vanke&rsquo s net gearing ratio &ndash a measure of the proportion of borrowed funds to equity &ndash to 27 per cent, much lower than the industry average of 70 per cent.
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lifeisgood
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29-Mar-2019 09:07
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Some news from China Vanke: https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3003667/property-giant-china-vanke-aims-raise-us1-billion-new-shares |
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runaway
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28-Mar-2019 20:50
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Q318 vs Q218 Q418 vs Q318 For two consecutive Q in 2018, Yanlord  reported lower revenue, profit and ASP, but higher debt. Baed on the above, I expect Q119 to be worse than Q418, and if the downward trend continues, 2019 FY may see a loss |
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blurtrader
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28-Mar-2019 16:56
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thanks for the info i bought somemore today though
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runaway
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28-Mar-2019 16:54
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Do you know why it is different? Yanlord Website compares 2018 vs 2017, it shows a decline in ASP. SGX filing compares Q418 vs Q417, it shows a STEEPER decline in ASP. This steep decline in Q418 is alarming. Quote: Declining ASP is a fact. Pls refer to Page 6 of the following SGX filing. https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/27-02-2019_FY2018_Presentation.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=545316 Quote: RMB $35,300 psm looks good? I suggest you go back and read the 2018 financial reports. 4Q 2017 ASP/psm RMB $66,234 4Q 2018 ASP/psm RMB $51,257 193 units sold at a loss? If the trend of lower ASP psm prevails in 2019, you can expect a poorer 1Q     |
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CheeryVGoh
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28-Mar-2019 15:04
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I just checked SGX annoucements, information were actually the same as Yanlord web. It is a listed company, how could the info be different?  People, don' t be misled.
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runaway
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28-Mar-2019 13:23
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SGX listed companies file their financial results and other announcements with SGX. A company&rsquo s website has nothing to do with SGX. If you want to be busy body, you can drop a note to SGX and ask them to investigate the mismatched financial data netween SGX and YanLord website.   |
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lifeisgood
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28-Mar-2019 13:16
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runaway
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28-Mar-2019 13:02
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Yanlord is a SGX listed company. You take SGX filing as true and legally binding. What is published in China is not recognized by SGX. You can file a police report if you have been misled by China reports.   |
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