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pkli899 Supreme	03-Feb-2023 12:02        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Full year results announcement getting nearer.....probably near end of this month. 1st half EPS was 3.45c (a 30% fall). 2nd half I expect further drop due to China situation. Let' s say, drop another 40%, EPS will then be 2.07c. So, full year will be 5.52c. 40% payout means DPU of 2.208c. If really very bad, drop 50%, means EPS only 1.725c. Total still got 5.175c. DPU will then be 2.07c. That' s why I said earlier, anything above 2c I will be happy already. Of course, above all my assumption only. Just read for fun la. Results maybe better or worst.
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Hawkeye Master	03-Feb-2023 11:16        Hawkeye About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Investor who aim for short term gain, should know by now trading in YZJ shares is for long term. Short term traders who are impatient to make a gain should just sell off. If more of short term players sell off their shares, YZJFH will go up.  Smallinvestor      ( Date: 03-Feb-2023 10:39) Posted: Should have sold away all the asset and give back to all the shareholder and delist since the management say the nav is 109cents. Even at a 50 percent discount also good. :) pursuer76      ( Date: 03-Feb-2023 10:31) Posted: if YZJFH is a toxic asset, they should have just shut down this segment and inject the $ into YZJSH. Why bother spend so much effort to spin-off? Sounds illogical to me. No offence, just my view. DYODD
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Smallinvestor Senior	03-Feb-2023 10:39        Smallinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Should have sold away all the asset and give back to all the shareholder and delist since the management say the nav is 109cents. Even at a 50 percent discount also good. :) pursuer76      ( Date: 03-Feb-2023 10:31) Posted: if YZJFH is a toxic asset, they should have just shut down this segment and inject the $ into YZJSH. Why bother spend so much effort to spin-off? Sounds illogical to me. No offence, just my view. DYODD. soeteono      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 18:41) Posted: Now more convince to suspect this separate listing is to help yzjsb get rid of this toxic assets . Share price of yzjsb appreciated so much after getting rid of this FH unit is a good testimony .
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pursuer76 Veteran	03-Feb-2023 10:31        pursuer76 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	if YZJFH is a toxic asset, they should have just shut down this segment and inject the $ into YZJSH. Why bother spend so much effort to spin-off? Sounds illogical to me. No offence, just my view. DYODD. soeteono      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 18:41) Posted: Now more convince to suspect this separate listing is to help yzjsb get rid of this toxic assets . Share price of yzjsb appreciated so much after getting rid of this FH unit is a good testimony . sgng123      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 16:28) Posted: But strangely SSB gone quiet for 2mths after 3q business update. With AGM coming in end Apr, time running out for SSB to hit the cap. Something big might happen as it is too quiet now and stock price creeping up, privatisation or capital reduction might be on the card. But it only a guess since YZJFH did not go through proper IPO listing and no viable business model. It take years to establish fund portfolio, wonder how it get SGX approval to list this way lol. There might be stuff unknown to retail investors, list to redistribute value and delist to unlock  value lol.
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pasttime Supreme	03-Feb-2023 10:12        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yzjsb now 1.31 and yzjfh 0.38 combine 1.69. shareholders of yzjsb before free issue of yzjfh has paper gained thru efforts. new shareholders of yzjfh in the last few months has mostly made money. hopefully those who buy in past few days, will also made money soon. good luck. dyodd
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soeteono Senior	02-Feb-2023 18:41        soeteono About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Now more convince to suspect this separate listing is to help yzjsb get rid of this toxic assets . Share price of yzjsb appreciated so much after getting rid of this FH unit is a good testimony . sgng123      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 16:28) Posted: But strangely SSB gone quiet for 2mths after 3q business update. With AGM coming in end Apr, time running out for SSB to hit the cap. Something big might happen as it is too quiet now and stock price creeping up, privatisation or capital reduction might be on the card. But it only a guess since YZJFH did not go through proper IPO listing and no viable business model. It take years to establish fund portfolio, wonder how it get SGX approval to list this way lol. There might be stuff unknown to retail investors, list to redistribute value and delist to unlock  value lol.
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Winnertakeall Elite	02-Feb-2023 18:35        Winnertakeall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ShortSaleVolume from SGX (FYI) 02/2 :   5105700 01/2 :   3257300 31/1 :   5856000 30/1 :   4110700 27/1 :   9263200 26/1 : 11164600 25/1 :   2788300 20/1 :   2611900 19/1 :   1752400 18/1 : 12786500 17/1 :   1403800 16/1 :   3528200 13/1 :   2113700 12/3 :   2499300 11/1 :   9105400 10/1 :     408200
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sgng123 Supreme	02-Feb-2023 16:28        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But strangely SSB gone quiet for 2mths after 3q business update. With AGM coming in end Apr, time running out for SSB to hit the cap. Something big might happen as it is too quiet now and stock price creeping up, privatisation or capital reduction might be on the card. But it only a guess since YZJFH did not go through proper IPO listing and no viable business model. It take years to establish fund portfolio, wonder how it get SGX approval to list this way lol. There might be stuff unknown to retail investors, list to redistribute value and delist to unlock  value lol.
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arkan1111 Veteran	02-Feb-2023 16:25        arkan1111 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unlimited shorting? No wonder SGX listed companies forever cannot grow ding dong ding dong twenty years later also that price, Like Singtel is an example,  SGX allows 100 shares for people to buy, it said for people can use small money to invest but can people make money even commission also cannot cover in its market.  Really bullshit sgng123      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 16:14) Posted: There a thing called borrowing stocks to short within a predetermined period where borrower need to return stock. it is unlimited shorting in SGX and only investors who can hold for years can win unless u got insider tips. Traders unlimited borrowing as long they can keep up with borrowing cost. Only STI component stocks supported by temasek can survive shorting activity. HVRRVH      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 10:23) Posted: Why ABN AMRO got so many shares to sell? I have been buying from time to time for the past 6 months, counter party almost always no. 24. The latest one was yesterday also no. 24. All kind of prices also sell, from 33 to 37.5. Since willing to sell as low as 33, why not just let go everything now at 38-38.5 lol. On a more neutral note, long term holders just be patient lah aiyo, sometimes see postings exhibiting ' reverse' psychology to the point of ' forecasting' prices will go down, management not doing anything, book got problem, cannot transfer fund to SG etc. Funny, why vested if ones have issues such as the aforesaid? Sometimes I see the comments on the share price, I have to take a second look because based on the comments it seemed that whole market went up and only YZJF' s share price drop but no leh, many others also dropped. In gist, still early days lah, see what pattern they give first when the result is due. Got profits, got dividend, then slow and steady should win the game. If no profits or dividend pattern like 0.0005 cent type then yes, all lnvestors get conned but now let' s be patient.
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pkli899 Supreme	02-Feb-2023 16:23        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hahaha........me only attracted by the last words....." 50 cents" ruanlai      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 15:21) Posted: All just take my words as talk cock sing song......runa ruan lai...... Do not believe la    ........ DYODD most important thingy as money is yours......no offence...no worries.......Huat lar.......50cents......
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sgng123 Supreme	02-Feb-2023 16:14        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There a thing called borrowing stocks to short within a predetermined period where borrower need to return stock. it is unlimited shorting in SGX and only investors who can hold for years can win unless u got insider tips. Traders unlimited borrowing as long they can keep up with borrowing cost. Only STI component stocks supported by temasek can survive shorting activity. HVRRVH      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 10:23) Posted: Why ABN AMRO got so many shares to sell? I have been buying from time to time for the past 6 months, counter party almost always no. 24. The latest one was yesterday also no. 24. All kind of prices also sell, from 33 to 37.5. Since willing to sell as low as 33, why not just let go everything now at 38-38.5 lol. On a more neutral note, long term holders just be patient lah aiyo, sometimes see postings exhibiting ' reverse' psychology to the point of ' forecasting' prices will go down, management not doing anything, book got problem, cannot transfer fund to SG etc. Funny, why vested if ones have issues such as the aforesaid? Sometimes I see the comments on the share price, I have to take a second look because based on the comments it seemed that whole market went up and only YZJF' s share price drop but no leh, many others also dropped. In gist, still early days lah, see what pattern they give first when the result is due. Got profits, got dividend, then slow and steady should win the game. If no profits or dividend pattern like 0.0005 cent type then yes, all lnvestors get conned but now let' s be patient.
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ruanlai Elite	02-Feb-2023 15:21        ruanlai About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All just take my words as talk cock sing song......runa ruan lai...... Do not believe la    ........ DYODD most important thingy as money is yours......no offence...no worries.......Huat lar.......50cents......
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tch77_pt75 Veteran	02-Feb-2023 14:52        tch77_pt75 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hmmm?. Hope it is not fake news and disappeared after the price went south?lol ruanlai      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 13:21) Posted: I wish I could share the news here but I cannot. That is why I need to protect myself by the name RuanLai..... Price will tell soon.......stay tune...... Real Reall Fake Fake......DYODD......... pkli899      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 15:45) Posted: LOL.....no wonder u call yourself ruanlai. Ren will not buy before the 200 m used up. If results within expection and dividend much above 2c, Ren no need buy price also will go up
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pkli899 Supreme	02-Feb-2023 14:47        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha, hope I didn' t offend u. Of course we wish price can chiong. Give u the benefit of doubt la.  ruanlai      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 13:21) Posted: I wish I could share the news here but I cannot. That is why I need to protect myself by the name RuanLai..... Price will tell soon.......stay tune...... Real Reall Fake Fake......DYODD......... pkli899      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 15:45) Posted: LOL.....no wonder u call yourself ruanlai. Ren will not buy before the 200 m used up. If results within expection and dividend much above 2c, Ren no need buy price also will go up
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ruanlai Elite	02-Feb-2023 13:21        ruanlai About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I wish I could share the news here but I cannot. That is why I need to protect myself by the name RuanLai..... Price will tell soon.......stay tune...... Real Reall Fake Fake......DYODD......... pkli899      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 15:45) Posted: LOL.....no wonder u call yourself ruanlai. Ren will not buy before the 200 m used up. If results within expection and dividend much above 2c, Ren no need buy price also will go up. ruanlai      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 12:49) Posted: Ren is starts to buy anytime, stay tune......Do not miss the train...........45cents soon. Too tooo toooo up up all the way....... DYODD
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pkli899 Supreme	02-Feb-2023 11:58        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you, thank you for pointing out my mistake. Should be hitting the 10% not used up the $200 m set aside. My bad.  volvo125      ( Date: 02-Feb-2023 11:44) Posted: ..... may be not after the $200m is used up but rather after the SBB 10% cap 395m is max up. 259m shares already in the treasury and 136m more to go before we can see uncle Ren starts his symbolic buy .... So far $98.6m was spent to acquire the 259m shares, averaging 0.381 per share. If YFH is buying back the remaining 136m at 0.40 ave going forward, then the total amount spent would work out to be $153m .... $47m less than the $200m budget. pkli899      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 15:45) Posted: LOL.....no wonder u call yourself ruanlai. Ren will not buy before the 200 m used up. If results within expection and dividend much above 2c, Ren no need buy price also will go up
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volvo125 Master	02-Feb-2023 11:57        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good quick overview of shorts intensity from sgx. This overview could even be better if you could include also the week on week mas cumulative shorts data. The mas report shows the total number of cumulative shorts still hanging until its last update. Winnertakeall      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 18:38) Posted: ShortSaleVolume from SGX (FYI) 01/2 :   3257300 31/1 :   5856000 30/1 :   4110700 27/1 :   9263200 26/1 : 11164600 25/1 :   2788300 20/1 :   2611900 19/1 :   1752400 18/1 : 12786500 17/1 :   1403800 16/1 :   3528200 13/1 :   2113700 12/3 :   2499300 11/1 :   9105400 10/1 :     408200
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volvo125 Master	02-Feb-2023 11:44        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	..... may be not after the $200m is used up but rather after the SBB 10% cap 395m is max up. 259m shares already in the treasury and 136m more to go before we can see uncle Ren starts his symbolic buy .... So far $98.6m was spent to acquire the 259m shares, averaging 0.381 per share. If YFH is buying back the remaining 136m at 0.40 ave going forward, then the total amount spent would work out to be $153m .... $47m less than the $200m budget. pkli899      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 15:45) Posted: LOL.....no wonder u call yourself ruanlai. Ren will not buy before the 200 m used up. If results within expection and dividend much above 2c, Ren no need buy price also will go up. ruanlai      ( Date: 01-Feb-2023 12:49) Posted: Ren is starts to buy anytime, stay tune......Do not miss the train...........45cents soon. Too tooo toooo up up all the way....... DYODD
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Amateurinvestor Veteran	02-Feb-2023 08:36        Amateurinvestor About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Have been waiting patiently since launch of YZJFH ... so far not many excitement and underperforming stock
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Winnertakeall Elite	01-Feb-2023 18:38        Winnertakeall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	ShortSaleVolume from SGX (FYI) 01/2 :   3257300 31/1 :   5856000 30/1 :   4110700 27/1 :   9263200 26/1 : 11164600 25/1 :   2788300 20/1 :   2611900 19/1 :   1752400 18/1 : 12786500 17/1 :   1403800 16/1 :   3528200 13/1 :   2113700 12/3 :   2499300 11/1 :   9105400 10/1 :     408200
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