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alexvar
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18-Dec-2024 18:17
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you are missing the point. IHH is pursing profits, ROE, and profitable investments, be it in lira or rupee. Investing in PRC hospitals is loss-making. you just convert your good SGD investments into RMB losses. |
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Rocket888
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18-Dec-2024 18:03
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China private health market is huge, United Family Hospitals China, a seasoned foreign healthcare player in China was sold to a Hong Kong company for US$1.4 billion.
That said, perennial is just a property developer that put a big hospital signboard on a brand new concrete building , thats all. BTW, IHH achidbedem operates mostly in Turkey, and certain parts of Serbia and Macedonia. you can hardly call it Europe, they use the Turkish lira . |
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alexvar
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18-Dec-2024 17:59
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PRC is hopeless for foreign investors - At least RMG seems to finally realize this. RMG has started making investments into Vietnam. RMG acquired majority stake in a cool Ho Chi Minh City hospital - American International Hospital! dyodd. |
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Secret_Squirrel
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18-Dec-2024 17:41
Yells: "Buy share cannot keep long ,will LPPL ,back to square one" |
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China is a jinx. Anyone who had business dealings with them don' t ends well. lol
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alexvar
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18-Dec-2024 16:59
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haha, both Perennial and RMG are so messed up for throwing the good money after bad investments in PRC. Poorer china consumers can' t afford premium medical prices - COVID19 property crisis never stops. no wonder IHH is staying away from China, and instead investing more $$ in its profitable markets of Europe/India/Malaysia instead. dyodd. |
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Rocket888
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18-Dec-2024 16:22
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I don't think Perennial is capable of running a hospital. They are just a property landlord renting out office space to China doctors. I am not sure whether China Insurance can claim at foreign owned hospital.
RMG China is a different model, they treat patients directly and earn the largest margin, and China patients claim from China type medisave medical insurance. |
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finjungle
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18-Dec-2024 15:49
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Not necessarily that this is bad news. A rising tide lifts all ships and boats and even rubbish. PRC has a large ageing population and the aftermath of a one child policy. Those who ould afford private health care would look for private hospitals. Perennial is a new comer to the medical realm and would probably faces start up issues. I think Dr Loo being a doctor and a majority sharholders could be a safer bet.
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mgrow2013
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18-Dec-2024 13:51
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https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2024/12/17/china-approves-singapores-perennial-as-first-foreign-company-to-wholly-own-tertiary-hospital ... this is not good for RMG, I think | ||||
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finjungle
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11-Dec-2024 20:44
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Dr Loo can' t be buying everyday!!! if so why don' t he privatise RMG?
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Rocket888
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11-Dec-2024 19:06
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RM private healthcare business model is broken for local mkt unless partner with gahmen. But China and Vietnam still growing.
Mt E is the worst, its going downhill, no more indonesian, All quiet. the whole Mt E hospital look like closed down, you pay high price to have treatment in the carpark partition room, better to short IHH. |
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mgrow2013
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11-Dec-2024 16:49
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Dr Loo stopped buying for more than a week 🙏 | ||||
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n3wbie
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10-Dec-2024 22:31
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Was going a quick check on sgx - interestingly they dint announce quarterly business updates like for 1Q but only did for 3Q23 and 3Q22. Guess it depends on boss Dr Loo
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eddyeddy
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10-Dec-2024 20:30
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China operation lose big. | ||||
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Rocket888
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10-Dec-2024 19:19
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when business is so bad, better not say too much | ||||
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Secret_Squirrel
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10-Dec-2024 17:57
Yells: "Buy share cannot keep long ,will LPPL ,back to square one" |
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Last year on 6 Nov 2023 , they provide 3Q business update. But this year totally silent.
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ridethestorm
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10-Dec-2024 16:18
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hopefully, looking forward
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alexvar
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09-Dec-2024 16:41
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Great news for Raffles Med! China is the largest overseas market for the Group. China Eases Monetary Policy Stance, Vows More Fiscal Support! Politburo to take &lsquo moderately loose&rsquo monetary position in 2025, marking its first major shift in stance since 2011 ! DYODD. |
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Rocket888
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06-Dec-2024 17:17
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nah..a takeover or in simple terms buying up the outstanding shares can be done in the open market already or they can put an compelling offer on the table. what is stopping them from doing so, certainly not who is the property valuer appointment.
RMG is now operating in the most healthy country in the world by some world indicators. and the standards have risen in Indon, vietnam. it needs a complete overhaul and different business model or a hybrid, public private model. but China is bright spot for RM. |
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finjungle
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06-Dec-2024 16:51
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good point of view but the said accounting treatment would be important in a takeover exercise. is it likely for a takeover or acquisiton by funds?
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Rocket888
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06-Dec-2024 16:46
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an accounting treatment is not going to change a business fundamentals. Healthcare is a funny business, to make big money, you need more dying and illstricken people.
RMG home market is suffering, indonesians not coming anymore, need to rely on gov contracts to survive. |
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