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MrBear12
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29-May-2024 15:42
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Almost 100%
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Newcomer19707016
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29-May-2024 14:40
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Will ocbc able to successfully delisted Great Eastern this round? How high is the chance? | ||||
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FairShake
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28-May-2024 14:14
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Guess I was dead wrong on the " Le Miserables" Wongs and Lees getting on.  Still as feisty as 20 years ago when he and the Lees snuffed out both OCBC attempts to privatise GEH. Respect Sir. Wong Hong Sun, whose grandfather  was chairman  of Great Eastern for close to twenty years, holds more than 3 million shares. &ldquo Even if I am not sentimental, I won&rsquo t sell,&rdquo he said. &ldquo Half price* is no way.&rdquo https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-26/singapore-insurer-s-holders-seeking-better-offer-from-ocbc It' s game on, with OCBC Opening Offer of $25.60 against Mr Wong&rsquo s &ldquo unofficial fair value&rdquo of $51.20. *OCBC&rsquo s two previous failed offers in 2004 and 2006 of 1.3 and 1.5 times GEH Embedded Value twice that of its current offer on just 0.7x EV. |
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MrBear12
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24-May-2024 11:33
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Let it go. Let it be. Que sera, sera. What will be, will be. The future' s not ours to see Que sera sera
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moonsun
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24-May-2024 11:29
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Dont think will be successful..
i prepare to hold till pass on .. Syodd |
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chartiskao
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24-May-2024 08:01
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OCBC, Southeast Asia&rsquo s second-largest bank, made offers over the years to increase its stake in Great Eastern, first in 2004, followed by 2006. For both past attempts by OCBC, Morgan Stanley had advised Great Eastern. In 2004, the US bank said that OCBC&rsquo s offer was adequate but not compelling. OCBC' s Pursuit of Great Eastern Holdings
Background:Over the years, OCBC Bank, Southeast Asia' s second-largest bank, has made multiple attempts to increase its stake in Great Eastern Holdings, a leading insurance company in the region. These attempts reflect OCBC&rsquo s strategic aim to strengthen its business pillars in banking, wealth management, and insurance, creating a more integrated financial services group.Historical Offers:
Strategic Implications for OCBC:
Challenges and Considerations:
Conclusion:OCBC&rsquo s attempts to increase its stake in Great Eastern Holdings highlight its strategic intent to bolster its integrated financial services model. While previous offers were not compelling enough, the pursuit underscores the importance of strategic acquisitions in enhancing business synergies and market positioning. Moving forward, OCBC will need to craft more attractive offers and navigate regulatory and market challenges to achieve its strategic objectives. 
 
 
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chartiskao
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24-May-2024 07:59
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https://ceomorningbrief.theedgemalaysia.com/2024/0769/
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FairShake
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22-May-2024 20:32
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Voluntary Delisting and Privatisation                                                                                                                                                                                                          2/2 OCBC made the VUGO &ldquo with the view to delisting GEH from SGX-ST&rdquo .   Under SGX Rulebook Mainboard Rules 1307: &ldquo The Exchange may agree to an application by an issuer to delist from the Exchange if: (1) the issuer convenes a general meeting to obtain shareholder approval for the delisting and (2) the resolution to delist the issuer has been approved by a majority of at least 75% of the total number of issued shares excluding treasury shares and subsidiary holdings held by the shareholders present and voting, on a poll, either in person or by proxy at the meeting. The Offeror Concert Party Group must abstain from voting on the resolution.&rdquo https://rulebook.sgx.com/rulebook/1307-0 No doubt this is a high threshold to surmount but the &ldquo Le Miserables&rdquo Lees and Wongs of 2004 and 2006 are getting on and their heirs might be willing to cash in at a decent price. Further under Rule 1309: &ldquo If an issuer is seeking to delist from the Exchange: (1) an exit offer must be made to the issuer' s shareholders and holders of any other classes of listed securities to be delisted. The exit offer must: (a) be fair and reasonable and (b) include a cash alternative as the default alternative and (2) the issuer must appoint an independent financial adviser to advise on the exit offer and the independent financial adviser must opine that the exit offer is fair and reasonable. In Boustead Project&rsquo s case, the final offer of $0.95 closed on 27 Mar 23 with 95.5% acceptance level, and the SGX DIRECTED exit offer of $1.15 was made nearly 9 months later on 14 Nov 23 after several extensions. https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Joint%20Announcement%20-%20Directed%20Delisting%20and%20Exit%20Offer-14.11.2023.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=778020     Watch and Be Ready The wording of the Offer Document (OD) is extremely important, none more so than the word FINAL.  It is expected no later than 31 May 24.  The $25.60 is likely to be just an opening offer, not final. Next, the IFA recommendations by GEH.  The offer is likely to be deemed REASONABLE given the discounts to the various price matrix and poor liquidity.   Crucially, FAIRness will hinge on its assessment of offer price relative to the Embedded Value of GEH. https://www.mas.gov.sg/-/media/MAS/resource/sic/Practice-Statements/IFA-Practice-Statement13072020-clean.pdf?la=en& hash=B17E00B81E2AF4CDC522607656AF19282E443146 Keep track of the acceptance levels, as and when they are updated and reported. There is no recommendations, whatsoever, on whether to wait, accept or reject the offer as each investor&rsquo s circumstance is different and unique. Nonetheless, it is paramount that every retail investor must have online access to CDP.  With it and assuming internet access and website running smoothly, acceptance can be effected easily and immediately at the click of a button, even on the last day of the final closing date. |
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FairShake
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22-May-2024 20:30
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Let me state categorically at the onset, I am NOT a lawyer or officially trained in any aspect of law to offer any legal advice or opinion.  I hereby disclaim any potential/realized losses or damages you may have suffered as a result from reading, or acting on, this post.  Please Do Your Own Due Diligence and consult your own legal and financial advisors. The Opening Offer &ldquo The OCBC offer works out at a premium of 36.9% above GEH&rsquo s undisturbed price as of May 9, a 40% premium to GEH&rsquo s three-month volume-weighted average price (VWAP) but just a 27.7% premium to GEH&rsquo s five-year VWAP.  In terms of valuation, OCBC is offering just 0.7 times embedded value of $36.59 but 1.54 times P/B.&rdquo   The Edge Issue 1138 Unlike some other GOs (eg Amara Holdings Limited), there was NO mention about the offer being FINAL in any of the SGX announcements and Investor Presentation by OCBC on 10 May 24.  This is done deliberately to accord itself the flexibility of revising it depending on the acceptance levels in the coming days.  Hence, the Opening Offer. Given the perennial undervaluation of GEH, the premia of the opening offer on recent prices and 1mth-to-5Yrs VWAPs are a given.  https://www.ocbc.com/iwov-resources/sg/ocbc/gbc/pdf/investors/major-regulatory/2024/investor_presentation_10may2024.pdf  Page 4 Interesting, 6 years ago the price hit $31.60 on 19 Apr 2018, just outside the 5yr VWAP used. However, the offer falls well short when measured against GEH&rsquo s Embedded Value, a matrix on which life insurance companies are commonly evaluated.  This 30% discount to EV is all the more jarring when compared to the OCBC&rsquo s previous offers for GEH of 30% and 50% premia in 2004 and 2006 respectively. Closing Dates and Price Revisions The Offer Document will be dispatched no later than 31 May 24. It must remain open for the following 28 days for GEH shareholders to accept.  Each extension, if any, will be for 14 days from the date of that announcement.  It may or may not be accompanied with price revision(s). Please note that &ldquo A circular (the &ldquo Offeree Circular&rdquo ) containing, inter alia, the advice of the IFA and the recommendation of the Independent Directors in respect of the Offer will be despatched by GEH to Shareholders within 14 days from the date of despatch of the Offer Document to be issued by the Offeror.&rdquo   In other words, no action is required until the IFA sings. https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/20240510_Response%20to%20Offer.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802908  GEH Response   Compulsory Acquisition Section 215(1) &ldquo An offerer (OCBC) who acquires not less than 90 percent of the issued shares in the target company (GEH) pursuant to a take-over offer (excluding those shares held at the date of the offer by, or by a nominee for, the offerer or its related corporations) is entitled to compulsorily acquire any remaining target shares under Section 215 of the Companies Act. Conversely, dissenting shareholders of the target company have a right to be bought out by the offerer if the offerer, its related corporations, and their respective nominees hold 90 percent or more of the issued shares in the target company.&rdquo Italics-added context https://www.allenandgledhill.com/media/1595/iba-takeover-guide-2017.pdf  A & G LLP Pg 23. https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/CoA1967?ProvIds=P17-#pr215- In several of the recent local GOs, offerors have set up NEW entities with zero shareholdings in the target company to circumvent the 90% threshold of S215(1). OCBC, for whatever reasons, has to launch the VUGO with 88.44% stake in GEH already in the bag.  Hence, it would need to acquire 90% of the 54,732,310 or 49,259,079 share in free float to be entitled to S215. Or just 5,473,231 shares hold-out needed to sink S215. 10% Free Float and Suspension OCBC&rsquo s Investor Presentation and SGX announcements &ldquo conceded&rdquo to this mission impossible just as much.  Instead, the indicated and probable chosen path for it to privatise GEH after two previous failed attempts is by going the delisting route. It is quite possible for OCBC to acquire 1.56% or 7,400,403 shares during the VUGO.  This will reduce the free float of GEH to below 90% and lead to a suspension SGX, but only at the close of the offer. &ldquo 1303(1) If the percentage of an issuer' s total number of issued shares excluding treasury shares held in public hands falls below 10%, as provided in Rule 723. In a take-over situation, where the Offeror succeeds in garnering acceptances exceeding 90% of the issuer' s total number of issued shares excluding treasury shares, thus causing the percentage of an issuer' s total number of issued shares excluding treasury shares held in public hands to fall below 10%, the Exchange will suspend trading of the listed securities of the issuer only at the close of the take-over offer.&rdquo https://rulebook.sgx.com/rulebook/1301-0 When a company listed on the SGX-ST is suspended, its shares cannot be transacted but any dividends declared will still be paid out.  This undesirous animated state, even to OCBC, is just the precursor of the ultimate aim of privatization.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             1/2 |
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Godwinlow
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22-May-2024 10:29
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Great Easten shareholders pls sign the petition to OCBC  https://chng.it/kzhB2XhGvD Do take a look and help circulate to OCBC and GEH shareholders.  Thanks |
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MrBear12
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17-May-2024 09:31
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Tokio Marine to merge with GE?
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SlothSG
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17-May-2024 08:47
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Wonderful suggestion, to " allow other overseas players ........to bid for GE to allow its fair value" . No low ball pls. 
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SlothSG
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17-May-2024 07:34
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Thanks for sharing.  | ||||
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 22:24
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Despite trading at a premium to some of its listed peers, OCBC&rsquo s offer price at 0.7 times embedded value makes GEH the cheapest acquisition in the past 20 years. The second cheapest acquisition in the past 20 years is by HSBC of AXA at 0.8 times embedded value in 2021. Some 20 years ago, OCBC paid almost twice the current valuation, at 1.3 times embedded value in 2004 and 1.5 times embedded value in 2006. While the 2004 offer comprised a share swap and a selective capital reduction, 2006&rsquo s offer was an all-cash deal. In comparison, the most recent life insurance transaction was the acquisition of AmMetLife by none other than GEH. It paid AmBank RM1.2 billion ($344 million) for AmMetLife, which included a bancassurance agreement. In FY2023, AmMetLife had a net asset value and net profit of RM1 billion and RM76 million respectively. The GEH offer valued AmMet Life at about 1.1 times P/B and 14.5 times P/E although AmMetLife&rsquo s embedded value is not publicly available.   
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 09:39
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https://www.ocbc.com/iwov-resources/sg/ocbc/gbc/pdf/investors/quarterly-results/2023/fy23%20media%20release%20%20financial%20highlights.pdf
Using internal cash to fund the privatisation of Great Eastern suggests that OCBC is confident in its financial position and liquidity. By not resorting to external financing like debt or equity issuance, OCBC indicates that it has sufficient reserves to undertake this significant transaction without jeopardizing its capital adequacy or financial stability.
Describing themselves as " well-capitalised" implies that OCBC believes it has a strong enough capital base to absorb any potential risks or impacts associated with the privatisation. This could mean that they have ample reserves beyond regulatory requirements, providing them with a buffer to handle unexpected events or market fluctuations. Overall, this strategy reflects OCBC' s confidence in its financial health and its commitment to the privatisation of Great Eastern.  
 
 
 
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 09:35
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Calculated from end-2023 figures, the offer would trim OCBC' s CET-1 CAR by 0.6 ppt to  15.3%. After adjusting for FY2023' s final dividend, the pro-forma CET-1 CAR as at end-2023 would fall to 14.5%. Taking 1QFY2024' s figures into account, however, OCBC would be starting from a higher base of 16.2%.6 days ago
https://www.ocbc.com/group/media/release/2024/ocbc-full-year-2023-net-profit-rose-27percent-to-a-record-7point02-billion.page
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 09:31
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Raising OCBC' s offer to privatize Great Eastern shares could be compelling for several reasons:
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 09:21
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allow other overseas players like the Japanese banks to bid for GE to allow its fair value
GEH' s financial results indeed showcase a robust performance, with significant growth in net profit and dividends, along with impressive metrics in new sales and embedded value. Its established presence in the insurance industry, coupled with its extensive customer base and historical profitability, makes it an appealing acquisition target for OCBC.
OCBC' s decision to acquire GEH aligns with its strategic vision of becoming a prominent player in Asia' s wealth management sector. By integrating GEH' s life insurance expertise with OCBC' s banking and wealth management services, the acquisition aims to offer comprehensive and tailored insurance solutions to a broader customer base. This strategic synergy is expected to enhance OCBC' s returns and optimize capital utilization. Moreover, the acquisition is projected to be earnings accretive for OCBC, leveraging GEH' s substantial contribution to net profit over the past decade. This contribution, constituting a notable portion of OCBC' s total net profit, underscores the potential financial benefits of the acquisition. Despite utilizing internal cash for the offer, OCBC anticipates maintaining a strong capital position, assuring stakeholders of its financial stability post-acquisition. Overall, the acquisition of GEH presents a strategic opportunity for OCBC to bolster its wealth management capabilities, capitalize on synergies, and enhance shareholder value. With GEH' s strong performance and market position, coupled with OCBC' s strategic vision and financial strength, the acquisition appears to be a prudent move for both entities.  
 
 
 
 
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chartiskao
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16-May-2024 09:18
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A non so attrracctive takeover offer of $25.60 by OCBC
  strong set of results for GEHWith this in mind, let&rsquo s take a peek at GEH&rsquo s financial results to determine if OCBC made a wise move.In 2023, GEH saw its net profit climb 27% year on year to S$774.6 million. The insurer declared a final  dividend  of S$0.40, taking its total 2023 dividend to S$0.75, up from S$0.65 a year ago. For 1Q 2024, GEH saw total weighted new sales jump 34% year on year to S$524.2 million while new business embedded value rose 21% year on year to S$163.2 million. The group&rsquo s net profit continued to rise, improving by 26% year on year to S$306.7 million. A sprawling enterpriseGEH is a big name in Asia&rsquo s insurance industry with more than 16 million policyholders across Singapore and Malaysia (see below).Source: OCBC&rsquo s offer for Great Eastern &ndash Presentation Slides The insurer also has more than 115 years of operating history and is a storied name in the industry. The markets that it targets (Singapore and Malaysia) have a total combined population of 40 million along with a gross domestic product of more than US$900 billion. These attributes make GEH attractive as the insurer not only boasts a strong franchise but also enjoys structural tailwinds that will enable it to grow further. Offer backed by solid reasonsOCBC also offered several reasons as to why it decided to buy up all the shares of GEH.The first is to reinforce its strategic vision to become Asia&rsquo s leading wealth management player. This move is in line with OCBC&rsquo s rebranded corporate strategy to strengthen its key pillars of banking, wealth management, and insurance. With GEH being an established market leader for life insurance, OCBC shares a synergistic relationship with the insurer. OCBC can tap GEH to offer a comprehensive suite of customised insurance solutions while GEH leverages OCBC&rsquo s extensive retail and commercial customer base. Management also argues that this offer will enhance OCBC&rsquo s returns and help to optimise capital. Assuming the offer goes through, it will be earnings accretive to OCBC as GEH has contributed an average of S$700 million in net profit annually to the bank over the past decade. This level of profit equates to around 15% of OCBC&rsquo s total net profit for the period. The offer will also raise OCBC&rsquo s 2023 return on equity (ROE) by 0.2 percentage points to hit 14% while its CET1 (Capital Adequacy) Ratio will fall to 15.3%. Management also assures that OCBC&rsquo s capital position will remain strong following the offer even though the  blue-chip  bank will use solely internal cash to fund the offer.  
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chartiskao
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14-May-2024 18:20
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https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/OCBC_priced_US$500million_of_Tier_2_Subordinated_Notes.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=803270
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