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john1703 Member	28-Jun-2023 11:06        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And I am not too worry of how they eill get rid of the excess treasury shares. It ican be used as good as cash!
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john1703 Member	28-Jun-2023 11:00        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	As I said, they can putchase up to 10% outstanding this FY as mentioned in their AGM and daily buyback announcement. If above 10% treasuery shares, they will be guven 6 months to get rid of the excess to keep within 10% as mentioned in SGX rule book. During the 6 months, they can cancel, sell or issue to vendor/partner etc. So for at least another 6 months, thry can buy back at least another 300 million shares Volmax      ( Date: 28-Jun-2023 10:38) Posted: Maximum number of shares authorized for purchase = 367,397,812 Number of treasury shares held after purchase = 300,611,100 Another 66,786,712 shares before hitting maximum 10% treasury shares. Correct me if I' m wrong. john1703      ( Date: 27-Jun-2023 20:44) Posted: You misunderstood again. They can purchase up to 10% of outsbding shares this FY. So it is a lot more than 67m which you mentioned. If all 10% are used up, this will cause their treasury shares holding to exceed 10%. They have up to 6 months to deal with this situation, either cancel, market sales or issue to partners in lieu of cash which I remember YZJSB has done such action before. After this FY 10% buyback is used up, I guess Chairman will i itiate his personal buyback. I have trust with him. He has good track record
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arkan1111 Veteran	28-Jun-2023 10:43        arkan1111 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Price/Book value = 0.319 very very under value aragosta      ( Date: 28-Jun-2023 08:43) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---
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Volmax Master	28-Jun-2023 10:38        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maximum number of shares authorized for purchase = 367,397,812 Number of treasury shares held after purchase = 300,611,100 Another 66,786,712 shares before hitting maximum 10% treasury shares. Correct me if I' m wrong. john1703      ( Date: 27-Jun-2023 20:44) Posted: You misunderstood again. They can purchase up to 10% of outsbding shares this FY. So it is a lot more than 67m which you mentioned. If all 10% are used up, this will cause their treasury shares holding to exceed 10%. They have up to 6 months to deal with this situation, either cancel, market sales or issue to partners in lieu of cash which I remember YZJSB has done such action before. After this FY 10% buyback is used up, I guess Chairman will i itiate his personal buyback. I have trust with him. He has good track record! Volmax      ( Date: 27-Jun-2023 18:22) Posted: 67m SBB To Go! What Happen After That?
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john1703 Member	28-Jun-2023 08:37        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I sense people are longing SB and shorting FH. Now spreading fears on YZJFH to drive down price. If what below message is true, SB can easily take back FH again. It is still one family group eventually. Can split also can merge. I am already surprise SB has a property arm. My wild guess is it will eventualy 'transfer' to FH. SB will also likely provide lifeline to FH in the worst case. I know current outlook no good but will not be too pessimistic. 33.5c is clearly the price FH is protecting.
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pasttime Elite	28-Jun-2023 08:36        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Buy good stock on sale and collect dividend long long time"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	property in china has surely past the worse in their time. yesterday most property stock in china/hk raised a good percentage. expectations is for more government measures to help the buyers. different places has issue different measures, many to provide liquidity to buyers, removing buyers restrictions.  recovery will happen . it takes some time. by the yzjfh is not all about property, volvo125 in another yzjfh thread put up a decent spilt of their value by type.  post on 15 jun 00.31 hrs.  a good read. this is a slow stock not in raising state yet. got to wait. buyer has to got the right time expectations.
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explosive2013 Master	28-Jun-2023 08:24        explosive2013 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I can sense that yzjfg will drop to below 0.10 this year. Yzjsb may double price from current level. TrC fund is smart, they sold all yzjfh long time ago and all in yzjsb.. They are laughing now..
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pasttime Elite	28-Jun-2023 08:15        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Buy good stock on sale and collect dividend long long time"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the chinese video i have visited. mostly is picture then ownself added naration and own self talk ownself happy type.  it represent the video producer view. think they are mostly there to make a living. different sector in sgc has peformed differently. basically think big foreign money has moved out to handle their own opportunity/problem back home. oil gas related stock has outperformed. property has suffered.  finance is about the same. if one has a well spread out pofolio with heavy weight on oil gas and restructuring theme has gained. so i will not said yzhfh has done badly. it just performed like other banking stock.  if share buy back hit limit, they can just do a buy and cancel by the number bought back. so fear about no buy back upon hitting limit does not make sense. important is boss want to support the price or not. view the situations at yzjsh as collected enough, push on good news and distribute at higher level. what level as high as they can go.  yzjfh looks more like being collected in small quantity in view of their. switching like happening,  shorts got another chance is when within 1 month limits no buy back to provide liquidity then can pick cheap cheap and wait for results. problem for shorts is there may be no real sell volume. then they sell down and being collected away they will have bigger probem. do not think professional shorts will do this target. hold and collect more likely. shorts are net zero. if open shorts positions in the hand of bull is a spring later. dyodd.
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alvin87a Member	28-Jun-2023 01:24        alvin87a About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ALL OLD NEWS...https://www.chinanews.com.cn/cj/2012/07-16/4033527.shtml    https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/14806-19990928.html      https://www.sohu.com/a/250660575_100162414      https://finance.sina.com.cn/money/bank/2022-08-26/doc-imizmscv7865632.shtml    https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-sg/%E5%8C%85%E5%95%86%E9%93%B6%E8%A1%8C Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 11:48) Posted: For those still having illusion, hope, wish and dream, some facts for China as follow 1. Real Estate Market Crashed and will get worse for the next one to two years, before seeing any meaningful recovery. 2. Official Jobless Rate For Youth Topped 20.4%. Another 11.58m gratuates set to enter into Job Market next month. 3. Continual Exit of Foreign Funds, Investors & Closure of Mega Factories, due to Xi' s Common Prosperity Policy 4. Debts held by Local Government Financial Vehicles Totaled 59 Trillion Yuan ($8.25tn). Unofficial Quoted Increasing Provincial Government owes salaries for more than 3 months. 5.  Collapse of Banking & Financial System -  Bankrupted  (1.河 北 省 肃 宁 县 尚 村 农 信 社   2.汕 头 市 商 业 银 行   3.海 南 发 展 银 行   4.  包 商 银 行   5.  太 子 河 村 镇 银 行 ) and more to come. 6. Devastating Climate Change El Nino- Prolong drought and flood affecting food security, power generation and livelihoods of millions. 7. Geopolitical Tensions & Trade Wars - Exports Tumbled 7.5%, Imports Slump 4.5% YOY May 2023. Possible war with Taiwan to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Telltale Signs Includes - Promoting State-Run Canteen & Supermarket, " Returning Forest To Farmland & Planting Rice Terrace Uphill" Land Reclamation Campaign. 8. Increasing Protest & Social Unrest due to numerous reasons like housing issues, unemployment, bankruptcies, stagflation and government policies. These people are no longer obedient and getting rebellious.
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john1703 Member	27-Jun-2023 20:44        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	You misunderstood again. They can purchase up to 10% of outsbding shares this FY. So it is a lot more than 67m which you mentioned. If all 10% are used up, this will cause their treasury shares holding to exceed 10%. They have up to 6 months to deal with this situation, either cancel, market sales or issue to partners in lieu of cash which I remember YZJSB has done such action before. After this FY 10% buyback is used up, I guess Chairman will i itiate his personal buyback. I have trust with him. He has good track record! Volmax      ( Date: 27-Jun-2023 18:22) Posted: 67m SBB To Go! What Happen After That?
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Volmax Master	27-Jun-2023 18:22        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	67m SBB To Go! What Happen After That?
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Volmax Master	27-Jun-2023 15:55        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those bro wanted 335, your dreams come true! There is more for you to pick up!
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john1703 Member	23-Jun-2023 21:20        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is not the first time I was shown irrelevant videos and websites written in Chinese. I am not sure about the motive. But some English source have good info but need to validate the source.
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Volmax Master	23-Jun-2023 18:00        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Up to you to DYODD! Talking of Chinese acquaintance, I used to have truckloads of Chinese Subordinates from all parts of China. Btw, Fear Is In Your Head, No One Can Create It Other Than Yourself! john1703      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 16:26) Posted: China is so big, definitely have lots of stories. Just luke US,maby states have their own problems. Anyway I have China friends so I learn from them.
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john1703 Member	23-Jun-2023 16:26        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China is so big, definitely have lots of stories. Just luke US,maby states have their own problems. Anyway I have China friends so I learn from them.
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Volmax Master	23-Jun-2023 15:56        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1.  平 凡 百 姓 紀 實 2.  普 通 百 姓 聊 真 实 的 中 国 3.  真 實 的 中 國 百 姓 4.  中 国 百 姓 实 录 5.  真 實 的 中 國 小 人 物 6.  未 公 开 的 中 国 These are some of the Youtube channel featuring everyday commoner and daily event of what is happening in China now. Go find out yourself if you can understand Mandarin. john1703      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 15:26) Posted: You believe Youtube news? Some were outdated news. Dont create fear lah. It really that bad, guess those high profile newly recruits would quit first. Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 14:28) Posted: Came across in YouTube, a few smallish Chinese Local Bank that went bankrupt the last few months, but didn' t managed to captured their names. Other than those disclosed by the government, the rest of the recent bank collaspse were blocked by the Chnese media. So long as you get the point.
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john1703 Member	23-Jun-2023 15:26        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You believe Youtube news? Some were outdated news. Dont create fear lah. It really that bad, guess those high profile newly recruits would quit first. Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 14:28) Posted: Came across in YouTube, a few smallish Chinese Local Bank that went bankrupt the last few months, but didn' t managed to captured their names. Other than those disclosed by the government, the rest of the recent bank collaspse were blocked by the Chnese media. So long as you get the point. john1703      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 12:16) Posted: Dont quite agree. Ibgoole for 海 南 发 展 银 行 brankrupt. It seems it happened in 1998 due to not current situation. Why are you sharing such old irrevalent news
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Gemcool Member	23-Jun-2023 14:54        Gemcool About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sounds bad. Look like those stocks linked with china are all at risk. Any stock with lesser risk to recommend? Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 11:48) Posted: For those still having illusion, hope, wish and dream, some facts for China as follow 1. Real Estate Market Crashed and will get worse for the next one to two years, before seeing any meaningful recovery. 2. Official Jobless Rate For Youth Topped 20.4%. Another 11.58m gratuates set to enter into Job Market next month. 3. Continual Exit of Foreign Funds, Investors & Closure of Mega Factories, due to Xi' s Common Prosperity Policy 4. Debts held by Local Government Financial Vehicles Totaled 59 Trillion Yuan ($8.25tn). Unofficial Quoted Increasing Provincial Government owes salaries for more than 3 months. 5.  Collapse of Banking & Financial System -  Bankrupted  (1.河 北 省 肃 宁 县 尚 村 农 信 社   2.汕 头 市 商 业 银 行   3.海 南 发 展 银 行   4.  包 商 银 行   5.  太 子 河 村 镇 银 行 ) and more to come. 6. Devastating Climate Change El Nino- Prolong drought and flood affecting food security, power generation and livelihoods of millions. 7. Geopolitical Tensions & Trade Wars - Exports Tumbled 7.5%, Imports Slump 4.5% YOY May 2023. Possible war with Taiwan to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Telltale Signs Includes - Promoting State-Run Canteen & Supermarket, " Returning Forest To Farmland & Planting Rice Terrace Uphill" Land Reclamation Campaign. 8. Increasing Protest & Social Unrest due to numerous reasons like housing issues, unemployment, bankruptcies, stagflation and government policies. These people are no longer obedient and getting rebellious.
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Volmax Master	23-Jun-2023 14:28        Volmax About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Came across in YouTube, a few smallish Chinese Local Bank that went bankrupt the last few months, but didn' t managed to captured their names. Other than those disclosed by the government, the rest of the recent bank collaspse were blocked by the Chnese media. So long as you get the point. john1703      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 12:16) Posted: Dont quite agree. Ibgoole for 海 南 发 展 银 行 brankrupt. It seems it happened in 1998 due to not current situation. Why are you sharing such old irrevalent news? Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 11:48) Posted: For those still having illusion, hope, wish and dream, some facts for China as follow 1. Real Estate Market Crashed and will get worse for the next one to two years, before seeing any meaningful recovery. 2. Official Jobless Rate For Youth Topped 20.4%. Another 11.58m gratuates set to enter into Job Market next month. 3. Continual Exit of Foreign Funds, Investors & Closure of Mega Factories, due to Xi' s Common Prosperity Policy 4. Debts held by Local Government Financial Vehicles Totaled 59 Trillion Yuan ($8.25tn). Unofficial Quoted Increasing Provincial Government owes salaries for more than 3 months. 5.  Collapse of Banking & Financial System -  Bankrupted  (1.河 北 省 肃 宁 县 尚 村 农 信 社   2.汕 头 市 商 业 银 行   3.海 南 发 展 银 行   4.  包 商 银 行   5.  太 子 河 村 镇 银 行 ) and more to come. 6. Devastating Climate Change El Nino- Prolong drought and flood affecting food security, power generation and livelihoods of millions. 7. Geopolitical Tensions & Trade Wars - Exports Tumbled 7.5%, Imports Slump 4.5% YOY May 2023. Possible war with Taiwan to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Telltale Signs Includes - Promoting State-Run Canteen & Supermarket, " Returning Forest To Farmland & Planting Rice Terrace Uphill" Land Reclamation Campaign. 8. Increasing Protest & Social Unrest due to numerous reasons like housing issues, unemployment, bankruptcies, stagflation and government policies. These people are no longer obedient and getting rebellious.
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john1703 Member	23-Jun-2023 12:16        john1703 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont quite agree. Ibgoole for 海 南 发 展 银 行 brankrupt. It seems it happened in 1998 due to not current situation. Why are you sharing such old irrevalent news? Volmax      ( Date: 23-Jun-2023 11:48) Posted: For those still having illusion, hope, wish and dream, some facts for China as follow 1. Real Estate Market Crashed and will get worse for the next one to two years, before seeing any meaningful recovery. 2. Official Jobless Rate For Youth Topped 20.4%. Another 11.58m gratuates set to enter into Job Market next month. 3. Continual Exit of Foreign Funds, Investors & Closure of Mega Factories, due to Xi' s Common Prosperity Policy 4. Debts held by Local Government Financial Vehicles Totaled 59 Trillion Yuan ($8.25tn). Unofficial Quoted Increasing Provincial Government owes salaries for more than 3 months. 5.  Collapse of Banking & Financial System -  Bankrupted  (1.河 北 省 肃 宁 县 尚 村 农 信 社   2.汕 头 市 商 业 银 行   3.海 南 发 展 银 行   4.  包 商 银 行   5.  太 子 河 村 镇 银 行 ) and more to come. 6. Devastating Climate Change El Nino- Prolong drought and flood affecting food security, power generation and livelihoods of millions. 7. Geopolitical Tensions & Trade Wars - Exports Tumbled 7.5%, Imports Slump 4.5% YOY May 2023. Possible war with Taiwan to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Telltale Signs Includes - Promoting State-Run Canteen & Supermarket, " Returning Forest To Farmland & Planting Rice Terrace Uphill" Land Reclamation Campaign. 8. Increasing Protest & Social Unrest due to numerous reasons like housing issues, unemployment, bankruptcies, stagflation and government policies. These people are no longer obedient and getting rebellious.
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