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ss2017. Supreme	09-Feb-2024 14:43        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Happy Dragon Year for all, may your health stays as strong and vibrant as a dragon. volvo125      ( Date: 09-Feb-2024 14:15) Posted: Yes, happy Lunar New Year to all ! pkli899      ( Date: 09-Feb-2024 14:06) Posted: Wish everybody here a Prosperous and Happy CNY. Good wealth and good health all year round.
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volvo125 Master	09-Feb-2024 14:15        volvo125 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, happy Lunar New Year to all ! pkli899      ( Date: 09-Feb-2024 14:06) Posted: Wish everybody here a Prosperous and Happy CNY. Good wealth and good health all year round.
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pkli899 Supreme	09-Feb-2024 14:06        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wish everybody here a Prosperous and Happy CNY. Good wealth and good health all year round.
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sgng123 Supreme	08-Feb-2024 19:09        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	China communist country lah, everything is state controlled and planned. So abandon all common sense economy know how on china outlook. RMB not open for trade and capital control in place Property crisis would take time to digest and no china companies would collapse, all Zombies companies lol. CHINA economy different from rest of world.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	08-Feb-2024 15:01        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 7  Alert Admin	31 lesser buyer. High chance can get if Q few days ago. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 14:57        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	CSI 300 5321 to 3326 (-38%), HSI 33154 to 16066 (-51%), CQQQ 107 to 30 (-71%).   $7 trillion out of $17 trillion has been wiped out, social unrest is brewing and you asking " if you think China market will collapse" ?   You are clueless. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:59) Posted: You don?t utter rubbish. We trade to make profits not biased against country. If you think China market will collapse, tell it to those who trade n succeed in the China market everyday even China have disadvantages u think. BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:36) Posted: See?   Again you are just spouting nonsense.   There is little ownership (less than 10%) of China A-shares by foreigners.   And Chinese government has sold off the bulk of their US treasuries years ago.   As long as USD is the world' s reserve and trading currency, they can continue printing and selling it' s debts to other countries.   China does not have this advantage
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 14:32        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are contradicting yourself.   The person who brought the country agenda into the discussion was you, not me.   And I was simply correcting your bias and untrue statements.   And I don' t have to " think" that Chinese market will collapse - it already has in case you have not noticed. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:59) Posted: You don?t utter rubbish. We trade to make profits not biased against country. If you think China market will collapse, tell it to those who trade n succeed in the China market everyday even China have disadvantages u think. BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:36) Posted: See?   Again you are just spouting nonsense.   There is little ownership (less than 10%) of China A-shares by foreigners.   And Chinese government has sold off the bulk of their US treasuries years ago.   As long as USD is the world' s reserve and trading currency, they can continue printing and selling it' s debts to other countries.   China does not have this advantage
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ss2017. Supreme	07-Feb-2024 13:59        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	You don?t utter rubbish. We trade to make profits not biased against country. If you think China market will collapse, tell it to those who trade n succeed in the China market everyday even China have disadvantages u think. BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:36) Posted: See?   Again you are just spouting nonsense.   There is little ownership (less than 10%) of China A-shares by foreigners.   And Chinese government has sold off the bulk of their US treasuries years ago.   As long as USD is the world' s reserve and trading currency, they can continue printing and selling it' s debts to other countries.   China does not have this advantage. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:27) Posted: You are smart alec, you are confused. Do you know that China is communist policy, their sop is totally not capitalist mode. But it doesn?t mean capitalism will work now as we can see who are the world top debtors. Definitely not China. I visited China last year 4 times. This year already visited once. You better study more China economy and history before coming here , you are not even a big share holders here. If you don't have confidence in China stocks. Don't go in, nobody force you.
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 13:36        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	See?   Again you are just spouting nonsense.   There is little ownership (less than 10%) of China A-shares by foreigners.   And Chinese government has sold off the bulk of their US treasuries years ago.   As long as USD is the world' s reserve and trading currency, they can continue printing and selling it' s debts to other countries.   China does not have this advantage. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:27) Posted: You are smart alec, you are confused. Do you know that China is communist policy, their sop is totally not capitalist mode. But it doesn?t mean capitalism will work now as we can see who are the world top debtors. Definitely not China. I visited China last year 4 times. This year already visited once. You better study more China economy and history before coming here , you are not even a big share holders here. If you don't have confidence in China stocks. Don't go in, nobody force you. BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:08) Posted: I spent years covering China.   And I just spent 3 weeks there in Dec.   Instead of cheer leading pigs, you should do yourself a favour by dealing with facts
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ss2017. Supreme	07-Feb-2024 13:27        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 2  Alert Admin	You are smart alec, you are confused. Do you know that China is communist policy, their sop is totally not capitalist mode. But it doesn?t mean capitalism will work now as we can see who are the world top debtors. Definitely not China. I visited China last year 4 times. This year already visited once. You better study more China economy and history before coming here , you are not even a big share holders here. If you don't have confidence in China stocks. Don't go in, nobody force you. BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:08) Posted: I spent years covering China.   And I just spent 3 weeks there in Dec.   Instead of cheer leading pigs, you should do yourself a favour by dealing with facts. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:02) Posted: Have you been to China
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ss2017. Supreme	07-Feb-2024 13:18        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	USA n EU are also the same as great debtors but no money for infrastructure now. From here who is the better one. China will be continuing being hit by profit taking from western big investors. Now is that whether will the China govt going into the market to stabilize it. China govt had plenty of money including holding many western bonds. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:02) Posted: Have you been to China? BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 12:34) Posted: Probably at least another decade.   China' s issue is not just confidence.   The issues are systemic - manufacturing getting wiped out, decades of over-construction unwinding, trillions of debts, unemployment spiralling out of control, private sector demolished.   You have not seen the bottom yet
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 13:08        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	I spent years covering China.   And I just spent 3 weeks there in Dec.   Instead of cheer leading pigs, you should do yourself a favour by dealing with facts. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 13:02) Posted: Have you been to China? BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 12:34) Posted: Probably at least another decade.   China' s issue is not just confidence.   The issues are systemic - manufacturing getting wiped out, decades of over-construction unwinding, trillions of debts, unemployment spiralling out of control, private sector demolished.   You have not seen the bottom yet
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ss2017. Supreme	07-Feb-2024 13:02        ss2017. About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Have you been to China? BinderyT      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 12:34) Posted: Probably at least another decade.   China' s issue is not just confidence.   The issues are systemic - manufacturing getting wiped out, decades of over-construction unwinding, trillions of debts, unemployment spiralling out of control, private sector demolished.   You have not seen the bottom yet. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 12:23) Posted: Once HK and China mkts gain confidence, the funds flow would go back to these mkts, let's wait.
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 12:34        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Probably at least another decade.   China' s issue is not just confidence.   The issues are systemic - manufacturing getting wiped out, decades of over-construction unwinding, trillions of debts, unemployment spiralling out of control, private sector demolished.   You have not seen the bottom yet. ss2017.      ( Date: 07-Feb-2024 12:23) Posted: Once HK and China mkts gain confidence, the funds flow would go back to these mkts, let's wait.
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BinderyT Master	07-Feb-2024 09:30        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	DBS raised dividend to 7.5% plus 1-for-10 shares bonus.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	06-Feb-2024 10:54        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 4  Alert Admin	👍 Trade with huat ah and DYODD BinderyT      ( Date: 06-Feb-2024 09:50) Posted: Lol ... ok, listen to you. I queued for 100k. SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 06-Feb-2024 09:15) Posted: Q 31. Contra buyers or shortsellers likely to sell to you. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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BinderyT Master	06-Feb-2024 09:50        BinderyT About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol ... ok, listen to you. I queued for 100k. SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 06-Feb-2024 09:15) Posted: Q 31. Contra buyers or shortsellers likely to sell to you. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	06-Feb-2024 09:15        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 5  Alert Admin	Q 31. Contra buyers or shortsellers likely to sell to you. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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Panda8 Veteran	06-Feb-2024 08:09        Panda8 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you are right, Ren is a business man, meaining making money for themselves, not share holders......  In accounting, many way to reflect the profit and lost...... they can adjust left to right and so on.....    BinderyT      ( Date: 05-Feb-2024 14:00) Posted: The issue is Ren treat FH as his private piggy bank.   Real cash income from DI is declining and gains from investments are paper gains.   So you think he' s going to give out generous hard cash as dividends in this situation?   Nope, he will repeat Fy22 - write off enough investments as losses so that he gives out minimum dividends.   A little over 1.8 to save face, probably 2 cents. doubl3mint      ( Date: 05-Feb-2024 12:59) Posted: All other assets (FFI) perhaps. I would treat cash as well.. cash.  I think a company like the example you mentioned would return capital to its shareholders and take an indefinite beach holiday, in which case I feel quite assured even if you write off everything other than cash to zero
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pkli899 Supreme	05-Feb-2024 19:42        pkli899 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Was extremely busy, unable to come in here in the day time. Very interesting read today. We are not very far away from end Feb. Just wait and we shall know.
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