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Now the money is into south east Asia vie ocbc and not funds flow into china vie bank of china 出 售 中 国 银 行 ( 香 港 ) 股 份 购 买 华 侨 银 行 股 份 的 动 机 有 以 下 几 个 因 素 :       1.      华 侨 银 行 的 战 略 举 措 : 如 果 您 认 为 华 侨 银 行 的 战 略 决 策 , 如 收 购 、 扩 张 或 创 新 , 比 中 国 银 行 ( 香 港 ) 更 有 吸 引 力 , 更 有 可 能 推 动 增 长 。       2.      管 理 和 领 导 :对 华 侨 银 行 领 导 层 的 信 心 , 特 别 是 首 席 执 行 官 黄 海 伦 的 决 策 和 她 对 该 行 的 个 人 投 资 , 可 能 预 示 着 华 侨 银 行 未 来 的 强 劲 表 现 。       3.      财 务 健 康 和 比 率 : 华 侨 银 行 可 能 有 更 有 吸 引 力 的 财 务 状 况 , 如 更 好 的 市 净 率 , 更 高 的 股 息 收 益 率 , 或 更 强 的 资 本 储 备 。       4.      市 场 定 位 : 华 侨 银 行 在 新 加 坡 的 市 场 定 位 及 其 区 域 战 略 可 能 比 中 国 银 行 ( 香 港 ) 目 前 的 市 场 动 态 提 供 更 好 的 增 长 前 景 。       5.      经 济 及 政 治 因 素 :投 资 于 新 加 坡 银 行 , 分 散 投 资 , 远 离 与 香 港 经 济 及 政 治 环 境 相 关 的 潜 在 风 险 。       6.      个 人 投 资 策 略 :与 你 投 资 现 金 充 裕 、 市 净 率 较 低 的 银 行 的 策 略 相 一 致 , 华 侨 银 行 可 能 更 符 合 这 一 标 准 。 总 体 而 言 , 这 一 决 定 符 合 对 华 侨 银 行 未 来 业 绩 和 战 略 方 向 更 为 有 利 的 展 望 。
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Selling Bank of China (Hong Kong) shares to buy OCBC shares can be motivated by several factors:       1.      OCBC&rsquo s Strategic Moves: If you find OCBC&rsquo s strategic decisions, such as acquisitions, expansion, or innovation, more compelling and likely to drive growth compared to Bank of China (Hong Kong).       2.      Management and Leadership: Confidence in OCBC&rsquo s leadership, particularly CEO Helen Wong&rsquo s decisions and her personal investment in the bank, may signal strong future performance.       3.      Financial Health and Ratios: OCBC might have a more attractive financial profile, such as a better price-to-book ratio, higher dividend yield, or stronger capital reserves.       4.      Market Position: OCBC&rsquo s market position in Singapore and its regional strategy might offer better growth prospects than Bank of China (Hong Kong)&rsquo s current market dynamics.       5.      Economic and Political Factors: Diversifying away from potential risks associated with Hong Kong&rsquo s economic and political environment by investing in a Singapore-based bank.       6.      Personal Investment Strategy: Aligning with your strategy of investing in cash-rich banks with a low price-to-book ratio, OCBC might better fit this criterion. Overall, this decision aligns with a more favorable outlook on OCBC&rsquo s future performance and strategic direction.
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This stock BOC is a trillion dollar stock. Makes DBS and OCBC and UOB look like dwarfs.
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HKSE  -  Delayed Quote&bull HKD
Bank of China Limited  (3988.HK) 
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This indicates that for every unit of revenue, the enterprise value is approximately one to two times that amount, reflecting the stable but not overly high-growth nature of the banking sector. For a precise and up-to-date figure, examining individual banks' financial statements or industry reports would be necessary. The trends suggest a conservative valuation approach by investors, aligning with the sector' s steady but slow growth trajectory. https://www.etnet.com.hk/www/eng/stocks/realtime/quote_dividend.php?code=03988  
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The enterprise value to revenue (EV/R) ratio for Chinese banks can provide insights into their market valuation relative to their revenue. As of 2024, the EV/R ratios for Chinese banks generally vary but tend to be lower compared to other sectors due to the traditionally lower growth rates and margins in the banking industry. The Chinese banking sector has shown resilience and growth in total assets and profitability despite facing significant challenges. By the end of 2022, the sector recorded total assets of nearly RMB 380 trillion, with a 10% year-over-year growth, and a cumulative net profit of RMB 2.3 trillion, reflecting a 5.4% increase from the previous year (Deloitte United States) . However, revenue and profit growth among commercial banks have been slowing, influenced by a narrowing net interest margin and other macroeconomic pressures. Regarding specific EV/R multiples, while detailed and specific figures for all Chinese banks are not readily available, the general trend in revenue multiples for industries similar to banking indicates relatively modest ratios. The average EV/R ratio for public companies in similar sectors typically ranges from 1x to 2x  
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https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/3988.HK/key-statistics
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Roughly the same yield after taxes.  
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3988hk offer a yield of 6.66569% better than dbs yield
http://www.aastocks.com/en/stocks/analysis/company-fundamental/dividend-history?symbol=03988
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16-May-2024 15:08
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阿 三 不 要 投 了 太 贵 了 , 还 是 找 阿 中 3988hk 好 吧
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why is ah neh bank valued higher than ocbc share?
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ah neh overvalued banks
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it is time to rotate from neh banks to china 3988hk share
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time to take profit in over valued indian bank shares and put in still undervalued 3988hk after it corrects 40% from 2019
China sovereign wealth fund buys shares in Big Four banksPublished  Wed, Oct 11, 2023 · 09:56 PM
CHINA&rsquo S  sovereign wealth fund snapped up shares in the nation&rsquo s Big Four lenders and said it plans to continue the purchases, a move apparently aimed at boosting the stocks.
State-owned Central Huijin Investment said in filings to the Shanghai stock exchange on Wednesday (Oct 11) night that it raised its stakes in Bank of China, Agricultural Bank of China, China Construction Bank and Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. It added that it would continue the purchases over the next six months, without saying to what extent. The move may boost the lenders&rsquo shares when trading starts on Thursday morning. Shares in Agricultural Bank, ICBC and Bank of China jumped in 2011 after Huijin bought their stock on the open market.   
In 2015, Huijin acquired billions of yuan in the lenders&rsquo shares in transfers from China Securities Finance Corp. as the government orchestrated a market bailout. BLOOMBERG  
sell indian bankshttps://www.moneycontrol.com/india/stockpricequote/banks-public-sector/statebankindia/SBI
https://trendlyne.com/portfolio/superstar-shareholders/custom/?query=indian%20bank
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7 months into the state fund buying chinese bank share
Central Huijin Investment increasing its stakes in the big four Chinese banks in October 2023 could be interpreted as a move by the Chinese government to support the stock market. Such actions are often aimed at stabilizing investor sentiment and bolstering confidence in the financial system. By increasing its ownership in major banks, the government may seek to signal its commitment to ensuring the stability and resilience of the banking sector, which can have a positive impact on broader market sentiment. However, the extent of the impact of such moves on stock prices and market dynamics can vary depending on various factors such as market conditions, investor perception, and the effectiveness of government intervention measures.
https://www.scmp.com/business/markets/article/3237637/chinas-us135-trillion-sovereign-fund-boosts-stake-big-four-banks-fuelling-speculation-stock-market
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when you talked to the ang mos fund managers in singapore they openly tell you they are very very bearish about chinese bank so this is a good sign to bottom pick https://www.china-briefing.com/news/us-china-relations-in-the-biden-era-a-timeline/
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The decline in valuations for China' s " big four" state-owned lenders in August 2019 was likely influenced by a combination of factors, including concerns over the ongoing trade tensions between the United States and China, slowing economic growth in China, and the impact of domestic policy measures aimed at deleveraging and risk reduction in the financial sector. Additionally, global economic uncertainty and market volatility during that time period could have contributed to investor caution and reduced appetite for financial stocks.
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just liked the doomsayers of ocbc they shorted ocbc share but ocbc top management kept buying it while this shortists shorted ocbc like no tomorrow those who brought them now laughing to the three bank in sg now
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the cheer leaders of ah neh stocks vs the doomsayers of chinese bank share https://sg.news.yahoo.com/finance/news/indias-nifty-50-set-test-031606970.html
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They have risen since start of this year.
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this is the only way to beat the doomsayers after they shorted chinese shares
How to Bottom Fish for Chinese Stocks in 2024It has been a wet few years on the high seas of China&rsquo s markets. This year there might be more opportunities&mdash if investors know where to look. 
Jan. 4, 2024 8:55 am  ET
 
 
 
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Shares in Hong Kong are trading at cheap valuations.  PHOTO:  PAUL YEUNG/BLOOMBERG NEWS Chinese stocks  did badly in 2023. And in 2022. And in 2021. Will this year finally be the year for a sustained rebound? With  China&rsquo s property sector woes  unresolved, betting on the market as a whole still looks risky&mdash even though shares, particularly in Hong Kong, are trading at phenomenally cheap valuations. But that doesn&rsquo t mean there aren&rsquo t pockets of opportunity, if you know where to look. A falling dollar against most currencies is also a potential tailwind: Chinese monetary policy was too tight, relative to the weakness in the real economy, for much of late 2023. With the yuan strengthening of late and fears of capital outflows easing, policymakers will have more room to keep rates down where they need to be&mdash which will help shares.
Copyright © 2024  Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cdeb8Betting on a turnaround in Chinese stocks has been a painful trade in the past few years. The MSCI China index has fallen nearly 60% since it peaked in early 2021, lagging other major markets. The S& P 500, for example, gained 20% over the same period. Markets such as India have done even better.  
Analysts had high hopes for Chinese stocks at the beginning of 2023 as China reopened after years of strict pandemic restrictions. Yet the rebound  quickly fizzled out:  The Chinese economy has remained in the doldrums while China&rsquo s struggling real-estate market has weighed on consumer confidence. Meanwhile, Chinese internet stocks such as  Alibaba  and Tencent, investors darlings just a few years ago, were hit hard by a regulatory crackdown. These megacaps are still large components of the indexes. Alibaba has lost three-quarters of its value since peaking in 2020. Tencent shares have more than halved since 2021. And China&rsquo s sudden announcement of new regulatory measures for online gaming in December  took investors by surprise. Beijing will probably water down some of the harshest restrictions given that the proposed regulations triggered another massive selloff&mdash a top official in the Communist Party Propaganda Department, who was responsible for the release of rules,  was fired last week. The episode reminded investors that such risks are still very much alive. A broad market rally awaits a sustained recovery of the Chinese economy: a prospect which is still uncertain. Even so, there may be opportunities now in sectors where Chinese companies are doing particularly well or enjoy strong policy tailwinds. China&rsquo s electric-vehicle sector, for example, has sped ahead of its rivals. Market leader BYD  gained 11% in 2023  while  Li Auto  surged  a full 83%. BYD trades at 18 times next-12-months expected earnings according to FactSet&mdash the Nasdaq Composite, in comparison, already trades at 26 times. China&rsquo s efforts to  localize its semiconductor supply chain  in the face of U.S. sanctions might also create winners. Shares of Chinese chip-equipment maker  ACM Research, for example, nearly tripled in 2023. Those tensions aren&rsquo t going anywhere, and Beijing remains determined to build up its own national champions at any cost. ACM&rsquo s Nasdaq-listed shares trade at 14 times expected earnings. Fishing expeditions in China&rsquo s stock markets over the past several years have mostly resulted in wet investors and few fish. The prospects for 2024 do look better&mdash but anglers will still need to think carefully about where to drop their lures. Advertisement
 
Appeared in the January 5, 2024, print edition as ' Opportunity Lurks in Chinese Stocks' .  
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