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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 21:17        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There could be a rebound in the days ahead. But after the rebound, price may move lower again (but don' t think the low of 0.132) before finally moving about the 50 MA which we Bros are waiting for to resume the uptrend! So during the next 1 to 3 weeks, movement may be a bit boring.
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eugesun Master	26-Sep-2023 20:56        eugesun About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It must be risky for shorts, since no bad news to support it. Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:44) Posted: Not many sellers on the queue, chances of the SP moving up is getting higher by the minute if SBB or BB like Fullerton etc jumping in to scoop up!
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beetlejuice Master	26-Sep-2023 19:41        beetlejuice About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A watched pot never boils. Compounding in progress, do not disturb. Relaxed lah & let time do the job. Joyoftheworld      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 18:48) Posted: That' s refreshing. Unchanged for the day. Hope this is the turning point.
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Joyoftheworld Member	26-Sep-2023 18:48        Joyoftheworld About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That' s refreshing. Unchanged for the day. Hope this is the turning point.
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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 14:46        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	30 min chart is showing a bit of good sign but may need a couple of candle sticks more for the trend to change more positive. Let' s watch. " Is there anything that we do not know for the sell down" ? Haha, FearMonger!
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 14:37        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Your children' s children and my children' s children will be enjoying the fruits of our investment if by 2050, Seatrium' s share price is $500 per share !!! Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:58) Posted: Those who bought at the lowest of the lows at 101 after merger is still sitting pretty on 32/32% gain at present price !!! With the present managment and their performance so far even without profits, it is on the right path towards more RE projects with higher profit margins and still with O& G projects until 2050 with zero carbon without extension !!! Hopefully you and me will still be around to enjoy the fruits of our investment or already gone to Heaven !!! LOL Tob231      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:39) Posted: 哇 , 希 望 你 所 讲 的 是 对 的 ....
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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 14:31        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For me, if I short using CFD, I short only a bit but must be accompanied   by chart direction - no balls  Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:47) Posted: Alamak !!! No pain no gain !!! High risk high returns !!! Not for me !!! Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:32) Posted: You mean halted? Yes, client will continue to pay interest. For suspension, I am unsure but guess the short seller deserve it & be prepared to undergo BALLs surgeries
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 13:47        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Alamak !!! No pain no gain !!! High risk high returns !!! Not for me !!! Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:32) Posted: You mean halted? Yes, client will continue to pay interest. For suspension, I am unsure but guess the short seller deserve it & be prepared to undergo BALLs surgeries  Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:12) Posted: What happens if the counter is suspended while using CFD to short the counter before suspension ?  Continue to pay interest ? what if for a very long suspension
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 13:44        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not many sellers on the queue, chances of the SP moving up is getting higher by the minute if SBB or BB like Fullerton etc jumping in to scoop up!
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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 13:32        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You mean halted? Yes, client will continue to pay interest. For suspension, I am unsure but guess the short seller deserve it & be prepared to undergo BALLs surgeries  Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:12) Posted: What happens if the counter is suspended while using CFD to short the counter before suspension ?  Continue to pay interest ? what if for a very long suspension ? Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:00) Posted: If short sell anytime today, all must cover back by end of the day unless using facilities like SBL, CFD. If left naked, CDP will back back against you on T+ 2. If Seatrium at the time of buying is say 0.134, price bought back would be 2 bits higher, 0.136.
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 13:12        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What happens if the counter is suspended while using CFD to short the counter before suspension ?  Continue to pay interest ? what if for a very long suspension ? Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:00) Posted: If short sell anytime today, all must cover back by end of the day unless using facilities like SBL, CFD. If left naked, CDP will back back against you on T+ 2. If Seatrium at the time of buying is say 0.134, price bought back would be 2 bits higher, 0.136.
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Login20 Senior	26-Sep-2023 13:03        Login20 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You should be correct. Thank you. Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 13:00) Posted: If short sell anytime today, all must cover back by end of the day unless using facilities like SBL, CFD. If left naked, CDP will back back against you on T+ 2. If Seatrium at the time of buying is say 0.134, price bought back would be 2 bits higher, 0.136.
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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 13:00        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If short sell anytime today, all must cover back by end of the day unless using facilities like SBL, CFD. If left naked, CDP will back back against you on T+ 2. If Seatrium at the time of buying is say 0.134, price bought back would be 2 bits higher, 0.136.
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Olegman Member	26-Sep-2023 12:56        Olegman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Short sell via SBL can be as long as possible (unless some corporate action which requires to call back the shares) but you need to bear the borrowing cost. 6 to 8%. For institution, the rate is much lower. Login20      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 12:39) Posted: Could be only to huge short sell, I did incidentally short by selling more than I hold, end up short sell and back back by house on T+2 or 4 if not wrong, that should be the last short sell by me. I am not keen on doing short sell. Thank you for your info Cadence88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 12:36) Posted: Naked  shorting is illegal if don' t  cover  by the end of the day.
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Login20 Senior	26-Sep-2023 12:39        Login20 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Could be only to huge short sell, I did incidentally short by selling more than I hold, end up short sell and back back by house on T+2 or 4 if not wrong, that should be the last short sell by me. I am not keen on doing short sell. Thank you for your info Cadence88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 12:36) Posted: Naked  shorting is illegal if don' t  cover  by the end of the day.  Login20      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:57) Posted: I thought if short sell that was done without SBL, he has to cover back in T+2 or 4, just like contra or normal trading. That was what I was told earlier by my broker. By never mind, I don?t short sell
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Cadence88 Senior	26-Sep-2023 12:36        Cadence88 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Naked  shorting is illegal if don' t  cover  by the end of the day.  Login20      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:57) Posted: I thought if short sell that was done without SBL, he has to cover back in T+2 or 4, just like contra or normal trading. That was what I was told earlier by my broker. By never mind, I don?t short sell. Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 10:48) Posted: I got this answer from my broker. If client calls him say want to sell 1 mil of Seatrium, he will check with him if he has the shares. If no, then the broker needs to indicate in his system ' short' , & execute the trade. By day end, the client has to cover back - that is he has to buy back the 1 mil shares he sold or inform the broker to use the SBL (share borrowing & lending) account to cover that position. This SBL account could be shares from the CDP or in-house custodian account to lend to the short seller
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 11:58        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Those who bought at the lowest of the lows at 101 after merger is still sitting pretty on 32/32% gain at present price !!! With the present managment and their performance so far even without profits, it is on the right path towards more RE projects with higher profit margins and still with O& G projects until 2050 with zero carbon without extension !!! Hopefully you and me will still be around to enjoy the fruits of our investment or already gone to Heaven !!! LOL Tob231      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:39) Posted: 哇 , 希 望 你 所 讲 的 是 对 的 ....  Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:26) Posted: Now, $100K can buy 752K shares, in another 2 years, only can buy less than 100K shares !!! That is the power of investment if bought the correct shares like Seatrium at the right price at the right time !!
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Login20 Senior	26-Sep-2023 11:57        Login20 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I thought if short sell that was done without SBL, he has to cover back in T+2 or 4, just like contra or normal trading. That was what I was told earlier by my broker. By never mind, I don?t short sell. Olegman      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 10:48) Posted: I got this answer from my broker. If client calls him say want to sell 1 mil of Seatrium, he will check with him if he has the shares. If no, then the broker needs to indicate in his system ' short' , & execute the trade. By day end, the client has to cover back - that is he has to buy back the 1 mil shares he sold or inform the broker to use the SBL (share borrowing & lending) account to cover that position. This SBL account could be shares from the CDP or in-house custodian account to lend to the short seller. Tob231      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 09:07) Posted: cadence88, i' m inexperience... " There is covered SS too dont need to cover back ..." you skip many steps ... catch no balls .... please help us to understand .... why no need to cover back ???
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Eagle88 Elite	26-Sep-2023 11:46        Eagle88 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "DYODD !!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What do short seller know that we dont ? Dont over estimate the power of short sellers !!! Just like LT buyers, they have limitations on funds as well !!! So they cant keep shorting and they have to pay the price if the SP rebounds, unless they double up, one to cover their short position and another is to make profits while the SP rebounds.  eugesun      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:23) Posted: You can follow them and short to make money...investment is a personal things..DYOD Joyoftheworld      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 10:56) Posted: Do the short seller know something that we don' t? These short selling can go on for weeks or even months...maybe until next Feb when they announce 2023 results.
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Tob231 Member	26-Sep-2023 11:39        Tob231 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	哇 , 希 望 你 所 讲 的 是 对 的 ....  Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:26) Posted: Now, $100K can buy 752K shares, in another 2 years, only can buy less than 100K shares !!! That is the power of investment if bought the correct shares like Seatrium at the right price at the right time !!! Eagle88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2023 11:19) Posted: Me Too !!! Major personal fund coming in after 2 years. Seatrium SP could be above 1$ by then. Anyway, any extra cash will be injected to this counter once the price is right like now !!
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