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ETHunter
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27-Mar-2025 13:26     
 
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 Alert Admin 		CdL still not moving and no volume. UOL hit 5.9 today. With RNAV $20 and now trading at $5.02, the bosses should offer a buyout imo. Win win.
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MrBear12
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24-Mar-2025 19:31     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Go nibble CapitaLand better for 18 cents at cheaper price.

Let this fall under five

ETHunter      ( Date: 24-Mar-2025 15:31) Posted:

UOL 5.81 CDL 5.03 Used to be trading at same level. Nibble for 8c dividends.. dyodd

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ETHunter
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24-Mar-2025 15:31     
 
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 Alert Admin 		UOL 5.81 CDL 5.03 Used to be trading at same level. Nibble for 8c dividends.. dyodd
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MrBear12
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18-Mar-2025 16:02     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Mention some big names and let them choose their strategic review partners.

okay, see you at their AGM.

Look out for a big and brown guy!

alanchee      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 15:58) Posted:

Management need only mention 'will carry out strategic review or restructuring' sp will surely move up. Maybe someone can raise this issue at forthcoming agm?
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18-Mar-2025 15:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Management need only mention 'will carry out strategic review or restructuring' sp will surely move up. Maybe someone can raise this issue at forthcoming agm?
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MrBear12
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18-Mar-2025 14:24     
 
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 Alert Admin 		If their shake up leads to better profits, well and good. If their shakeup is wayang only just for show they are doing something, then forget it. Investors want to see real profits. Markets are profit driven, not merely showbiz

superstartup      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 12:16) Posted:

This I agree.
CLI. Keppel Corp. They did some restructuring then because Temasek mandated all the Govt-Linked Corps to do so. This was well covered in various news media.

antifragile      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 12:11) Posted:

Share price up or down, their remumerations payout are always there, guarranteed.

no reason for them to change the status quo.
 


You need an activist hedge fund to invest first and shake things up.
 
 


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18-Mar-2025 13:09     
 
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 Alert Admin 		This episode can trigger a shake up and or restructuring which is good for all shareholders. Otherwise there is no reason for the Kweks to change anything..

antifragile      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 12:11) Posted:

Share price up or down, their remumerations payout are always there, guarranteed.

no reason for them to change the status quo.
 


You need an activist hedge fund to invest first and shake things up.
 
 

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18-Mar-2025 12:16     
 
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 Alert Admin 		This I agree.
CLI. Keppel Corp. They did some restructuring then because Temasek mandated all the Govt-Linked Corps to do so. This was well covered in various news media.

antifragile      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 12:11) Posted:

Share price up or down, their remumerations payout are always there, guarranteed.

no reason for them to change the status quo.
 


You need an activist hedge fund to invest first and shake things up.
 
 

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18-Mar-2025 12:11     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Share price up or down, their remumerations payout are always there, guarranteed.

no reason for them to change the status quo.
 


You need an activist hedge fund to invest first and shake things up.
 
 
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18-Mar-2025 11:42     
 
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 Alert Admin 		The market valuation of a holding company is greatly different from that of a property developer. Especially over at SGX.
This is market dynamics. Market-based. That' s my point.
You can go see how CLI restructured then.
From a discounted NAV (property developer) valuation to a fully valued NAV (holding company) valuation.  While underlying assets mainly remain the same.

MrBear12      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:36) Posted:

Whether you call it a holding company or a property developer or Reit, the structure may change, but the underlying business is still the same.

If you base your valuation on merely the structure of a company, then it will fluctuate wildly as the structure changes. But if you base your valuation on the underlying businesses, then it will follow the growth or decline of the corresponding business. That will be a clearer picture of the true valuation of cdl.

Even cli and keppel profits depend on their respective subsidiaries which in turn influences their valuations. There is no escaping from the importance of their underlying businesses in the corresponding industries.

superstartup      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:30) Posted:

Restructure into a holding company will do.
As market values Holding Company differently from a Property Developer.
Just replicate what CLI and Keppel Corp did can liao.
The valuation of the company will change overnight. That' s how the market operates
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MrBear12
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18-Mar-2025 09:36     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Whether you call it a holding company or a property developer or Reit, the structure may change, but the underlying business is still the same.

If you base your valuation on merely the structure of a company, then it will fluctuate wildly as the structure changes. But if you base your valuation on the underlying businesses, then it will follow the growth or decline of the corresponding business. That will be a clearer picture of the true valuation of cdl.

Even cli and keppel profits depend on their respective subsidiaries which in turn influences their valuations. There is no escaping from the importance of their underlying businesses in the corresponding industries.

superstartup      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:30) Posted:

Restructure into a holding company will do.
As market values Holding Company differently from a Property Developer.
Just replicate what CLI and Keppel Corp did can liao.
The valuation of the company will change overnight. That' s how the market operates.

MrBear12      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:24) Posted:

They won't unlock it all at once. Otherwise they will not have anymore earnings. Where do their recurring earnings come from
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18-Mar-2025 09:30     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Restructure into a holding company will do.
As market values Holding Company differently from a Property Developer.
Just replicate what CLI and Keppel Corp did can liao.
The valuation of the company will change overnight. That' s how the market operates.

MrBear12      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:24) Posted:

They won't unlock it all at once. Otherwise they will not have anymore earnings. Where do their recurring earnings come from?

ETHunter      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:23) Posted:

CDL should start restructing and unlocking its real value after this episode. RNAV $20! UOL already $5.8.. Dyodd.


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 Alert Admin 		They won't unlock it all at once. Otherwise they will not have anymore earnings. Where do their recurring earnings come from?

ETHunter      ( Date: 18-Mar-2025 09:23) Posted:

CDL should start restructing and unlocking its real value after this episode. RNAV $20! UOL already $5.8.. Dyodd.

superstartup      ( Date: 13-Mar-2025 00:28) Posted:

Ought to follow UOL, etc to reflect the fair value gains on the investment properties directly into the financial statements for easier reference.
Just change the policy for recording investment properties, for which is allowed under Accounting Rules
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18-Mar-2025 09:23     
 
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 Alert Admin 		CDL should start restructing and unlocking its real value after this episode. RNAV $20! UOL already $5.8.. Dyodd.

superstartup      ( Date: 13-Mar-2025 00:28) Posted:

Ought to follow UOL, etc to reflect the fair value gains on the investment properties directly into the financial statements for easier reference.
Just change the policy for recording investment properties, for which is allowed under Accounting Rules.

superstartup      ( Date: 13-Mar-2025 00:19) Posted:

Capital Recycling
RNAV $19.86

Extracted from latest company financial announcement, for easy reference:

Net Asset Value (NAV) per share stood at $10.17 as of 31 December 2024.
Notably, the Group adopts the policy of stating its investment and hotel properties at cost less accumulated depreciation and impairment losses.
Had the Group factored in fair value gains on its investment and hotel properties, its NAV would be as tabled below.
31 December 2024 Revalued NAV 19.86
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18-Mar-2025 09:17     
 
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 Alert Admin 		see no evil, hear no evil..

MrBear12      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 12:07) Posted:

I look forward to hearing your report

Joelton      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 12:04) Posted:

CDL will give shareholders a proper account, says group CEO Sherman Kwek
 
With the legal fight within the board of City Developments put behind, the company will give shareholders a proper account, according to group CEO Sherman Kwek.
 
" This is our responsibility," he told Chinese daily Lianhe Zaobao on March 16.
 
Sherman was attending the council installation ceremony of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Kwek, who has long held various positions in Singapore' s largest Chinese business chamber, is one of the council members.
 
Disputes between Sherman and his father, CDL' s executive chairman Kwek Leng Beng split the company' s board and before the matter was heard in open court, both sides on March 12 announced they had terminated their legal actions.
 
The company, having reported its full-year results on Feb 26, is slated to hold its annual general meeting on April 23.
 
" I am glad the lawsuit has been terminated," said Sherman, when asked by Zaobao if his relationship with his father has improved.
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18-Mar-2025 09:03     
 
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 Alert Admin 		which piece would you like?...

MrBear12      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 08:46) Posted:

Move on in peace

Tob231      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 07:40) Posted:

Court is not the place to hear him. There is no independent agency in SG unlike SEC in USA 
A new day has began for CDL, time to move on.
More delisting and shrinking of SGX .... we also need to move on 😅 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


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18-Mar-2025 08:44     
 
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 Alert Admin 		that is considered ECA...

eddyeddy      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 09:19) Posted:

That volunteer woman had resigned , that does not mean no more bed time meetings on decision making .

moonsun      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 09:08) Posted:

Life goes on..
Despite all the corporate governance issues and accusations.. now they are all good..
Ceo still ceo. Chairman still chairman..
Investor suck thumb..
Dyodd. More headwinds ahead?


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tongphlp
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17-Mar-2025 15:21     
 
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 Alert Admin 		same old broken record...yes, I lost $2b in China....but not bad already, could have lost $4b instead! 
i have nothing, except $$....and lots of it..:)

MrBear12      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 12:07) Posted:

I look forward to hearing your report

Joelton      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 12:04) Posted:

CDL will give shareholders a proper account, says group CEO Sherman Kwek
 
With the legal fight within the board of City Developments put behind, the company will give shareholders a proper account, according to group CEO Sherman Kwek.
 
" This is our responsibility," he told Chinese daily Lianhe Zaobao on March 16.
 
Sherman was attending the council installation ceremony of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Kwek, who has long held various positions in Singapore' s largest Chinese business chamber, is one of the council members.
 
Disputes between Sherman and his father, CDL' s executive chairman Kwek Leng Beng split the company' s board and before the matter was heard in open court, both sides on March 12 announced they had terminated their legal actions.
 
The company, having reported its full-year results on Feb 26, is slated to hold its annual general meeting on April 23.
 
" I am glad the lawsuit has been terminated," said Sherman, when asked by Zaobao if his relationship with his father has improved.
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Joelton      ( Date: 17-Mar-2025 12:04) Posted:

CDL will give shareholders a proper account, says group CEO Sherman Kwek
 
With the legal fight within the board of City Developments put behind, the company will give shareholders a proper account, according to group CEO Sherman Kwek.
 
" This is our responsibility," he told Chinese daily Lianhe Zaobao on March 16.
 
Sherman was attending the council installation ceremony of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Kwek, who has long held various positions in Singapore' s largest Chinese business chamber, is one of the council members.
 
Disputes between Sherman and his father, CDL' s executive chairman Kwek Leng Beng split the company' s board and before the matter was heard in open court, both sides on March 12 announced they had terminated their legal actions.
 
The company, having reported its full-year results on Feb 26, is slated to hold its annual general meeting on April 23.
 
" I am glad the lawsuit has been terminated," said Sherman, when asked by Zaobao if his relationship with his father has improved.
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CDL will give shareholders a proper account, says group CEO Sherman Kwek
 
With the legal fight within the board of City Developments put behind, the company will give shareholders a proper account, according to group CEO Sherman Kwek.
 
" This is our responsibility," he told Chinese daily Lianhe Zaobao on March 16.
 
Sherman was attending the council installation ceremony of the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Kwek, who has long held various positions in Singapore' s largest Chinese business chamber, is one of the council members.
 
Disputes between Sherman and his father, CDL' s executive chairman Kwek Leng Beng split the company' s board and before the matter was heard in open court, both sides on March 12 announced they had terminated their legal actions.
 
The company, having reported its full-year results on Feb 26, is slated to hold its annual general meeting on April 23.
 
" I am glad the lawsuit has been terminated," said Sherman, when asked by Zaobao if his relationship with his father has improved.
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