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TikTalk
    15-Mar-2022 13:34  
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Grab new low last night at 2.97.......best ipo le  cheeky
 
 
 
Conman
    15-Mar-2022 10:41  
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Yes fatpanda I have thought it over. I have decided to join your BB boss and, together with you and your 'analysyst' colleague Mr CoolDeepSeng to con the 'positive thinking' uncles into buying this ZoomBee, probably also SBS Transit and Vicom and make them hold long long to earn dividends.

Huat ahhhh! 🤑 🤑 🤑

fatpanda      ( Date: 15-Mar-2022 08:28) Posted:

Conman,

OMG! Are you a shortist? See the trend up side down? Hehehe......

Conman      ( Date: 15-Mar-2022 07:25) Posted:

Yes fatpada, I turned the chart up-side-down just now and I saw the same thing you have seen 😎


 
 
fatpanda
    15-Mar-2022 08:28  
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Conman,

OMG! Are you a shortist? See the trend up side down? Hehehe......

Conman      ( Date: 15-Mar-2022 07:25) Posted:

Yes fatpada, I turned the chart up-side-down just now and I saw the same thing you have seen 😎

 

 
Conman
    15-Mar-2022 07:25  
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Yes fatpada, I turned the chart up-side-down just now and I saw the same thing you have seen 😎
 
 
fatpanda
    14-Mar-2022 19:17  
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Conman,

Panda also talk and listen to charts, and ignore the rest. Panda lives in my own world, the colourful charts and TA.... Hehehe...

Conman      ( Date: 14-Mar-2022 11:27) Posted:

Fatpanda, the bulk of ZB in Singapore is SBS Transit mah. That is 75.6% of SBS hor. You didnt know meh?

 
 
TikTalk
    14-Mar-2022 11:49  
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Grab is so good until possibly facing lawsuit...  https://www.marketing-interactive.com/grab-lawsuit-us-statement.
Grab investors all kena con...angry

Dunno in Singapore can sue coffee shop uncle for misleading talk until Grab can go to the moon.
Those listen to goondoo advice lose until cannot recognise home..angel

 

seba240698      ( Date: 05-Mar-2022 12:02) Posted:

That is definite. I reckon Grab will be below $2 within 3 months.

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Conman
    14-Mar-2022 11:27  
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Fatpanda, the bulk of ZB in Singapore is SBS Transit mah. That is 75.6% of SBS hor. You didnt know meh?
 
 
fatpanda
    14-Mar-2022 10:50  
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Conman,

SBS Transit? Panda has no interest in this stock and therefore, no comment. You can BB all your way on SBS Transit and kill it like your BB killed Grab. Hehehe...
 
 
Conman
    14-Mar-2022 10:35  
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Fatpanda does your chart explain why SBS Transit slides down? Would it recover or continue to slide cheaper and cheaper and de-list to help save public money?

fatpanda      ( Date: 13-Mar-2022 21:31) Posted:

Is CDG going to suffer with the escalated high oil price?  Based on the past history, the suffer might be temporary only and situation would be getting better after that.  The oily stuff went down to the drain after the heavy blood flowed. Sad to say and see this as many innocent people died just because of one " crazy idiot" , also the " murderer" .   

So, be steady and pum BB.... 




 

 
 
stonkmaster
    13-Mar-2022 23:49  
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Not to mention still can collect dividends if hold long term.

TikTalk      ( Date: 05-Mar-2022 16:13) Posted:

If someone bought 1000 shares of Grab on debut at usd13(13,000), today he lost almost 10k usd
If someone bought 10,000 of CDG on 2nd December same day as grab debut,
even the day high of 1.38 (13,800), today its worth 14,200.

Which one better huh?

 

 
lukewong82
    13-Mar-2022 23:01  
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Quote: " It now spends double what it did previously on fuel, said Mr Koh."

SBS Transit already making a loss if not for Govt rebate. Now with this increase in oil price + govt rebate no more .. SBS Transit going to make even larger losses. And SBS Transit making losses will mean ComfortDelgro profit very ugly.

Situation has changed for ComfortDelgro since the oil breaks $100. Think going to get ugly at least for 1H22.  So their Q1/22 update will be ugly which means share price may test low in April-May when they annouce their business update for Q1/22.

lukewong82      ( Date: 13-Mar-2022 22:55) Posted:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/bus-operators-logistics-companies-and-cabbies-impacted-by-oil-prices-spike

S' pore bus operators, logistics companies and cabbies impacted by oil price spike

 
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MAR 13, 2022, 5:00 AM SGT


SINGAPORE -  As pump prices rise, service providers in the transport and logistics sector are feeling the heat.

Bus operators, delivery companies and cabbies The Sunday  Times spoke to said they are now at their wits' end.

About 30 per cent of their costs are transport-related, and now, with the surge in fuel prices precipitated by Russia&rsquo s invasion of Ukraine, they are among the first to be put through the wringer.

Some have resorted to cutting costs - be they  in salaries or completely halting part of their operations. Others are assessing how much of the extra cost they need to pass on to customers to ride out the pinch.

" There is no point in asking if we are suffering - of course we are," said Mr Edmund Koh, owner of Koh Bus Transport Service, which does hired trips, including for construction workers.

" I have had to cancel bus trips because why should I run trips that cost me as much as I make? The drivers draw the same salary, the customers don' t want to pay more. It' s the bus owners who are affected," he said.

The company has 11 buses, and its fuel costs have risen by $1,500 a month per vehicle - enough to hire one extra driver.
 


It now spends double what it did previously on fuel, said Mr Koh.

For companies that have to ply the roads every day, this is but the latest in a string of woes that have befallen them in recent years.

First came Covid-19, upending all industry norms. Then, as economies elsewhere recovered, demand for fuel outstripped supply and fuel prices have been on the up since last year, devastating for an industry that typically already posts narrow profits for each trip.

Last Thursday (March 10), all petrol prices, even the 92-octane fuel which can be used by the majority of cars here,  were $3 or more a litre here  - unheard of in recent years.

Mr Philip Peh, president of Singapore School and Private Hire Bus Owners' Association and owner of Tong Tar Transport Service, said " everyone in all industries has been bleeding money" .

" The sense is that if we are lucky enough, we can break even, but sometimes we can' t and end up in the red. My company and other bus companies are all looking at how we can manage the situation. We are still unsure of how to go about this."

He said bus companies will most likely have to ask customers to pay " a bit more" by raising fees, until oil prices stabilise.

" We cannot hold for much longer at these costs."

 

fatpanda      ( Date: 13-Mar-2022 21:31) Posted:

Is CDG going to suffer with the escalated high oil price?  Based on the past history, the suffer might be temporary only and situation would be getting better after that.  The oily stuff went down to the drain after the heavy blood flowed. Sad to say and see this as many innocent people died just because of one " crazy idiot" , also the " murderer" .   

So, be steady and pum BB.... 




 


 
 
lukewong82
    13-Mar-2022 22:55  
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/bus-operators-logistics-companies-and-cabbies-impacted-by-oil-prices-spike

S' pore bus operators, logistics companies and cabbies impacted by oil price spike

 
PUBLISHED
 
MAR 13, 2022, 5:00 AM SGT


SINGAPORE -  As pump prices rise, service providers in the transport and logistics sector are feeling the heat.

Bus operators, delivery companies and cabbies The Sunday  Times spoke to said they are now at their wits' end.

About 30 per cent of their costs are transport-related, and now, with the surge in fuel prices precipitated by Russia&rsquo s invasion of Ukraine, they are among the first to be put through the wringer.

Some have resorted to cutting costs - be they  in salaries or completely halting part of their operations. Others are assessing how much of the extra cost they need to pass on to customers to ride out the pinch.

" There is no point in asking if we are suffering - of course we are," said Mr Edmund Koh, owner of Koh Bus Transport Service, which does hired trips, including for construction workers.

" I have had to cancel bus trips because why should I run trips that cost me as much as I make? The drivers draw the same salary, the customers don' t want to pay more. It' s the bus owners who are affected," he said.

The company has 11 buses, and its fuel costs have risen by $1,500 a month per vehicle - enough to hire one extra driver.
 


It now spends double what it did previously on fuel, said Mr Koh.

For companies that have to ply the roads every day, this is but the latest in a string of woes that have befallen them in recent years.

First came Covid-19, upending all industry norms. Then, as economies elsewhere recovered, demand for fuel outstripped supply and fuel prices have been on the up since last year, devastating for an industry that typically already posts narrow profits for each trip.

Last Thursday (March 10), all petrol prices, even the 92-octane fuel which can be used by the majority of cars here,  were $3 or more a litre here  - unheard of in recent years.

Mr Philip Peh, president of Singapore School and Private Hire Bus Owners' Association and owner of Tong Tar Transport Service, said " everyone in all industries has been bleeding money" .

" The sense is that if we are lucky enough, we can break even, but sometimes we can' t and end up in the red. My company and other bus companies are all looking at how we can manage the situation. We are still unsure of how to go about this."

He said bus companies will most likely have to ask customers to pay " a bit more" by raising fees, until oil prices stabilise.

" We cannot hold for much longer at these costs."

 

fatpanda      ( Date: 13-Mar-2022 21:31) Posted:

Is CDG going to suffer with the escalated high oil price?  Based on the past history, the suffer might be temporary only and situation would be getting better after that.  The oily stuff went down to the drain after the heavy blood flowed. Sad to say and see this as many innocent people died just because of one " crazy idiot" , also the " murderer" .   

So, be steady and pum BB.... 




 

 
 
fatpanda
    13-Mar-2022 21:31  
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Is CDG going to suffer with the escalated high oil price?  Based on the past history, the suffer might be temporary only and situation would be getting better after that.  The oily stuff went down to the drain after the heavy blood flowed. Sad to say and see this as many innocent people died just because of one " crazy idiot" , also the " murderer" .   

So, be steady and pum BB.... 




 
 
 
TikTalk
    05-Mar-2022 16:13  
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If someone bought 1000 shares of Grab on debut at usd13(13,000), today he lost almost 10k usd
If someone bought 10,000 of CDG on 2nd December same day as grab debut,
even the day high of 1.38 (13,800), today its worth 14,200.

Which one better huh?
 
 
seba240698
    05-Mar-2022 12:13  
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Looking at it, Grab may abandon its ride hailing business altogether as it is its most unprofitable unit. In this case CDG will prosper. It will likely to focus on food delivery and fintech, which itself have strong competitors like SEA and for panda and UberEats. Looks like Grab is facing competitors at so fronts. I think it can't make any profits, it can only burn inventors money. Let's watch Grab's demise while collecting our dividends from CDG. :)

Entropy72      ( Date: 03-Mar-2022 23:33) Posted:


Losses widening for Grab and losing ride hailing market share. Will it throw more money to drivers to regain market share and widen losses further? It now has to account to public shareholders every quarter ...

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Grab nearly doubles Q4 net loss as pandemic hits ride-hailing business

CLAUDIA CHONG
MAR 3, 2022 09:50 PM

NEW YORK-LISTED Grab sank deeper into the red for the fourth quarter ended Dec 31, chalking up a net loss of US$1.1 billion compared with US$576 million a year ago after its mobility business suffered from Covid-19 disruptions.

Revenue plunged 44 per cent to US$122 million, with declines in mobility and delivery revenue but an improvement in financial services revenue.

Shares in the company opened down 7.46 per cent after the results announcement.

Revenue from mobility slipped 27 per cent to US$105 million, down 27 per cent, while gross merchandise value (GMV) fell 11 per cent to US$765 million.

Grab has been investing in incentives to pull drivers back to the platform. In the first earnings call since the group went public, Grab chief executive Anthony Tan said the company's "driver supply base moderated down amid lower mobility demand" in the third quarter.

"We're pre-emptively investing to recalibrate driver supply to capture the strong recovery in mobility demand," he said.

Tan also said the company is investing in incentives to maintain category leadership, and expects these investments to continue for the next two quarters.
Although GMV in the delivery segment grew 52 per cent to hit a record US$2.4 billion, revenue plunged 98 per cent to US$1 million after heavy investments in incentives.
Meanwhile, financial services revenue was negative at US$1 million, improving by US$3 million year on year. Grab's reported revenue is net of consumer, merchant and driver incentives, which differs from peers including Uber and Lyft.

The group's enterprise and new initiatives business also reported a fall in revenue, declining 39 per cent to US$16 million.

On a full-year basis, net loss deepened to US$3.4 billion from US$2.6 billion, despite revenue increasing 43.9 per cent to US$675 million.

GMV grew by 29 per cent to hit a record US$16.1 billion, exceeding its projection of US$15 billion to US$15.5 billion. Average monthly transacting users for 2021 were 24.1 million, 2 per cent lower primarily due to severe lockdowns in Q3.

The company said it is progressing towards core food delivery segment adjusted Ebitda (earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation) breakeven by the first half of 2023 and deliveries segment adjusted Ebitda breakeven by the end of 2023.

In the longer term, Grab is targeting a "steady state" adjusted Ebitda to GMV margins of 12 per cent in mobility and 3 per cent in deliveries.

Full-year adjusted Ebitda for mobility was US$345 million, translating to a margin of 12.4 per cent on GMV for 2021, which improved from 9.5 per cent in 2020.

In the delivery segment, adjusted Ebitda of US$130 million represented a margin of -1.5 per cent as a percentage of GMV, an improvement from -3.9 per cent in 2020.

Grab's shares last closed on Wednesday at US$5.23, down 5.25 per cent. Its shares have lost about half their value since the company went public on the Nasdaq in December, wiping over US$15 billion from the group's market value.

 

 
seba240698
    05-Mar-2022 12:07  
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Agree. Bro Panda. Grab is the company which shouldn't exist on the surface of this earth in the first place. But I think we have to thank Grab for making Comfort Delgro improving its apps and service and treating its taxis drivers better.

fatpanda      ( Date: 04-Mar-2022 10:45) Posted:

Bro Tik talk,

Good morning.

Ya, Grab is burning money like the rubbish burnt in the incineration plant. More money pump into Grab, more money burnt and become ash. So, CDG is the better choice for stakeholders. 

 
 
seba240698
    05-Mar-2022 12:02  
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That is definite. I reckon Grab will be below $2 within 3 months.

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Conman
    05-Mar-2022 11:57  
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Guru,

Is this something new in the market? The announcement sounded so earth-shakening! I already got mine on my roof since 5 years ago. Correct me if I am wrong. I believe there are more than 500 suppliers in the market if you need one.
 
 
Entropy72
    04-Mar-2022 21:43  
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Diversifying into renewable energy. First installation of EV points, now installation of PV panels.

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ComfortDelGro Corporation Limited (the ?Company?) wishes to announce that its wholly-owned subsidiary, ComfortDelGro Engineering Pte. Ltd. (?CDGE?) has entered into a joint venture with ENGIE South East Asia Pte. Ltd. (?ENGIE?), a wholly-owned subsidiary of ENGIE Group, a French multinational utility company, to pursue and undertake the business of deploying and operating solar photovoltaic systems on premises.

The joint venture company, ComfortDelGro ENGIE Solar Pte. Ltd. was incorporated on 4 March 2022 with the initial issued and paid-up capital of S$100, of which 49% is owned by CDGE and the remaining 51% is owned by ENGIE.

The investment of CDGE is funded by internal resources.
The joint venture is not expected to have any material impact on the net tangible assets and earning per share of the Company for the financial year ended 31 December 2022.

None of the Directors and controlling shareholders of the Company has any direct or indirect interest in the above transaction, save for their respective interests, through their shareholdings and/or directorships, as the case may be, in the Company.
 
 
Singpost
    04-Mar-2022 10:47  
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grab n run 

fatpanda      ( Date: 04-Mar-2022 10:45) Posted:

Bro Tik talk,

Good morning.

Ya, Grab is burning money like the rubbish burnt in the incineration plant. More money pump into Grab, more money burnt and become ash. So, CDG is the better choice for stakeholders. 

 
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