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pkli899
    14-Oct-2020 13:58  
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Of course we cannot say there will be no changes.
But we also cannot deny there will be pent up demand for shopping.
According to a recent article i read somewhere, the Chinese are spending like there is no tomorrow.
Not forgetting they still cannot travel.....this in turn benefits their shopping malls.
 

ysh2006      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 13:38) Posted:

Many things changes during Covid 19, post virus infection could be changes too!!

pkli899      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 10:37) Posted:

CRCT is definitely not for short term play.
It has never been that way before.
U believe, u buy and keep, for the dividend.
Not for volatile price moment which trader favour.
Before Covid 19, price was in the range of 1.50 - 1.60 mostly.
If everything back to normal, price should reflects.
This is before any injection of assets, mind you.
So, considering it' s potential, current price is low.
 


 
 
ysh2006
    14-Oct-2020 13:38  
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Many things changes during Covid 19, post virus infection could be changes too!!

pkli899      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 10:37) Posted:

CRCT is definitely not for short term play.
It has never been that way before.
U believe, u buy and keep, for the dividend.
Not for volatile price moment which trader favour.
Before Covid 19, price was in the range of 1.50 - 1.60 mostly.
If everything back to normal, price should reflects.
This is before any injection of assets, mind you.
So, considering it' s potential, current price is low.
 

 
 
lifeisgood
    14-Oct-2020 13:32  
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Today Evergrande.HK dropped 17%. Would there be lots of good assets on firesale in China?
 

 
pkli899
    14-Oct-2020 10:37  
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CRCT is definitely not for short term play.
It has never been that way before.
U believe, u buy and keep, for the dividend.
Not for volatile price moment which trader favour.
Before Covid 19, price was in the range of 1.50 - 1.60 mostly.
If everything back to normal, price should reflects.
This is before any injection of assets, mind you.
So, considering it' s potential, current price is low.
 
 
 
GreenTrap
    14-Oct-2020 09:28  
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LT holder  yes
 
 
lifeisgood
    14-Oct-2020 09:27  
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Thats correct, plus Capland investors also want to collect cheap, perhaps chng kays at work pressing down price for collection

simpleguy123      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 09:25) Posted:

Last Night US was redcool

lifeisgood      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 09:21) Posted:

Today Capland share price week. No hint of imminent asset disposal to CRCT.


 

 
simpleguy123
    14-Oct-2020 09:25  
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Last Night US was redcool

lifeisgood      ( Date: 14-Oct-2020 09:21) Posted:

Today Capland share price week. No hint of imminent asset disposal to CRCT.

 
 
lifeisgood
    14-Oct-2020 09:21  
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Today Capland share price week. No hint of imminent asset disposal to CRCT.
 
 
simpleguy123
    14-Oct-2020 08:35  
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End of the day, I look from this angle. Should I go in, or should I leave this counter (if I' m already inside)?

In China, where land is plentiful. Whenever a mall is built up, and competitors see its making money....likely they will copy and built another mall next to the original.
Over there, it' s not a matter of quality because even these days their " cloning" has improved so much, that the duplicates look like originals.

But with that being said, I cannot deny his performance has been decent. So 1.29/1.30 looks like a good range to buy and hold (and NOT look at price everyday).  wink
 
 
simpleguy123
    14-Oct-2020 06:51  
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If you are here to play short-term shareprice movement, stay away from this counter. Seems like you are a trader, not a longterm investor. Nothing wrong with being a trader, or an investor. But its good to know which one you are, and not confuse yourself and your judgement calls :) I recomend to you Glove Counters hahaha and the manufacturing boys.

mattohoh      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 20:56) Posted:

Any tp?

 

 
lifeisgood
    13-Oct-2020 22:48  
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Also must watch capitaland share price movement. If there is imminent deal with CRCT, I believe Capitaland share price will also shoot up, as any asset divestment likely to book a very large profit.

mattohoh      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 21:16) Posted:

Today the share price movement like not much leyy

pasttime      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 21:13) Posted:

if share dividend rate os 10% , to acuired an asset using shares, the asset need to be more then 10% return.
but if share price go up double, the dividend rate become 5%. so to use shares to buy new asset. asset only need to be > 5%. think they first need to push up share price.


 
 
pasttime
    13-Oct-2020 22:39  
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my guess is the general directions. it will take time to happen, with each set of results and dividend , slowly move up. may take years then add up + dividend maybe more then 10% return per year. overnight increases cannot susbtain one.
 

mattohoh      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 21:16) Posted:

Today the share price movement like not much leyy

pasttime      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 21:13) Posted:

if share dividend rate os 10% , to acuired an asset using shares, the asset need to be more then 10% return.
but if share price go up double, the dividend rate become 5%. so to use shares to buy new asset. asset only need to be > 5%. think they first need to push up share price.


 
 
mattohoh
    13-Oct-2020 21:16  
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Today the share price movement like not much leyy

pasttime      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 21:13) Posted:

if share dividend rate os 10% , to acuired an asset using shares, the asset need to be more then 10% return.
but if share price go up double, the dividend rate become 5%. so to use shares to buy new asset. asset only need to be > 5%. think they first need to push up share price.

 
 
pasttime
    13-Oct-2020 21:13  
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if share dividend rate os 10% , to acuired an asset using shares, the asset need to be more then 10% return.
but if share price go up double, the dividend rate become 5%. so to use shares to buy new asset. asset only need to be > 5%. think they first need to push up share price.
 
 
mattohoh
    13-Oct-2020 20:56  
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Any tp?
 

 
lifeisgood
    13-Oct-2020 00:34  
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You think about it, if Capitaland sell too high and no takers other than CRCT, then CRCT unit holders won' t be happy. But if Capitaland sells too cheap, then CRCT may not get it. So at the end of the day, it will be a winner curse for CRCT.

Plus CRCT market cap is only $1.6 billion. To makan $33 billion is like 蛇 吞 象 , so I am just presenting an alternative view. Lots of euphoria here. For a $1.6 billion company to makan $33 billion is a lot like a RTO (reverse takeover), usually existing shareholders will be diluted until nothing . So at the end of the day, I will buy only when cheap. Won' t chase at this price. This is not a buy or sell call, pls dyodd.

mattohoh      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 00:26) Posted:

Bro meaning is good news or bad?

lifeisgood      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 00:24) Posted:

The DBS analyst implicit assumption is that Capitaland will divest up to  $33 billion assets to CRCT. However, I believe Capitaland will sell the assets to the highest bidders. There is nothing that oblige them to sell only CFCT. If the sale price is too high, it won' t be DPU yield accretive to CRCT unit holders. So lots of variables here


 
 
mattohoh
    13-Oct-2020 00:26  
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Bro meaning is good news or bad?

lifeisgood      ( Date: 13-Oct-2020 00:24) Posted:

The DBS analyst implicit assumption is that Capitaland will divest up to  $33 billion assets to CRCT. However, I believe Capitaland will sell the assets to the highest bidders. There is nothing that oblige them to sell only CFCT. If the sale price is too high, it won' t be DPU yield accretive to CRCT unit holders. So lots of variables here.

valueinvest      ( Date: 12-Oct-2020 23:37) Posted:

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lifeisgood
    13-Oct-2020 00:24  
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The DBS analyst implicit assumption is that Capitaland will divest up to  $33 billion assets to CRCT. However, I believe Capitaland will sell the assets to the highest bidders. There is nothing that oblige them to sell only CFCT. If the sale price is too high, it won' t be DPU yield accretive to CRCT unit holders. So lots of variables here.

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mattohoh
    12-Oct-2020 23:49  
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Thanks bro for the advice. Any tp?

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mattohoh
    12-Oct-2020 22:21  
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Will it be too late if I enter now 1.30?

SharonWW      ( Date: 12-Oct-2020 22:08) Posted:

Thanks for sharing! Regret didn' t buy more when it was 1.1 range.

tangoanna      ( Date: 12-Oct-2020 18:42) Posted:

$1.50 the minimum. But will await Capitaland' s injection of chinese assets into this trust. Not selling anytime soon!


 
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