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Tob231
    11-Sep-2025 13:47  
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Sincap is going for RTO ... how ?
 
 
Tob231
    11-Sep-2025 13:46  
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this counter has been stuck for a very long time ....
not for me ....
 
 
vivacious
    11-Sep-2025 13:01  
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wow nice.

kiseki_2818      ( Date: 11-Sep-2025 10:26) Posted:

ok. follow u get a bit at 2.91 & 2.92.
then wait.
other chiong high, so cash out.
this one park and wait for chiong, while waiting may still get some dividend.

vivacious      ( Date: 09-Sep-2025 15:57) Posted:

decided to enter at 293


 

 
mav1ryan
    11-Sep-2025 11:13  
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Wilmar got few negative news and strong headwinds, better to stay out temporarily.
DYODD
 
 
halleluyah
    11-Sep-2025 10:41  
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palm oil px falling...might see 2.8x....highly in debt....
 
 
kiseki_2818
    11-Sep-2025 10:26  
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ok. follow u get a bit at 2.91 & 2.92.
then wait.
other chiong high, so cash out.
this one park and wait for chiong, while waiting may still get some dividend.

vivacious      ( Date: 09-Sep-2025 15:57) Posted:

decided to enter at 293

 

 
Tob231
    10-Sep-2025 08:03  
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just look at the pattern ai si boey si ... you seriously think can buy meh ???
cannot even go above 3 ... i think better to put money where the counter is more chiong 
anyway all the best to you ... even geo energy, agri, olam, first resources, bumitama agri have more fire power .... no offence 
have a good day 
 
 
actan99
    09-Sep-2025 20:31  
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All priced in liao ? 
 
 
vivacious
    09-Sep-2025 15:57  
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decided to enter at 293
 
 
vivacious
    08-Sep-2025 10:33  
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buy below 2.90
 

 
Tob231
    02-Sep-2025 14:52  
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not say talk bad about Wilmar ... see for yourself. like a humpty dumpty, acnnot pick itself up 
if break above 3 then sing some songs .... otherwise better put money with Olam ... dropping below $1 
buy i unit of wilmar, we give 3 units of Olam ... top up slightly nia
wilmar so koh lian thai ... lacklustre ... chiam tio thio 😩
 
 
Tob231
    02-Sep-2025 11:15  
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boh eng ... stuck in some kind of quicksand ... cannot move ... too many shortists 
don' t even give face ... don' t worry .... SBB, RK and BG Yeo will buy more shares to give confidence to the investors ... 
老 虎 不 发 威 , 当 时 病 猫
you wait and see ... now so cheap 

Wilmar' s subsidiary, Lense Pte Ltd, purchased a 20% stake in AWL Agri Business Ltd (formerly Adani Wilmar Ltd) from Adani Enterprises for approximately $1.3 billion in July 2025.

tongphlp      ( Date: 02-Sep-2025 10:42) Posted:

who' s afraid of DIEbetes? cause $$ talks?

Tob231      ( Date: 02-Sep-2025 07:57) Posted:

Malaysia' s richest, ' Sugar King' Robert Kuok, is turning 102: Meet the top 5 tycoons



Malaysia' s top business barons see a rise in wealth, now standing at over $90 billion
Last updated:  August 29, 2025 | 10:03
Jay Hilotin,  Senior Assistant Editor


Malaysia' s richest man, Robert Kuok, also known as " Asia' s Sugar King" , is turning 102 on October 6, 2025.


Currently, his empire spans agribusiness, real estate, and hospitality (Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts), while his longevity, grit, wealth, and philanthropic work have made him an enduring icon of Asian entrepreneurship and generosity.
Collectively Malaysia' s top tycoons saw a rise in wealth, now standing at $90 billion, buoyed by a stronger ringgit &mdash even amid a flat stock market, according to Forbes' 2025 rankings. 


 
 
tongphlp
    02-Sep-2025 10:42  
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who' s afraid of DIEbetes? cause $$ talks?

Tob231      ( Date: 02-Sep-2025 07:57) Posted:

Malaysia' s richest, ' Sugar King' Robert Kuok, is turning 102: Meet the top 5 tycoons



Malaysia' s top business barons see a rise in wealth, now standing at over $90 billion
Last updated:  August 29, 2025 | 10:03
Jay Hilotin,  Senior Assistant Editor


Malaysia' s richest man, Robert Kuok, also known as " Asia' s Sugar King" , is turning 102 on October 6, 2025.


Currently, his empire spans agribusiness, real estate, and hospitality (Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts), while his longevity, grit, wealth, and philanthropic work have made him an enduring icon of Asian entrepreneurship and generosity.
Collectively Malaysia' s top tycoons saw a rise in wealth, now standing at $90 billion, buoyed by a stronger ringgit &mdash even amid a flat stock market, according to Forbes' 2025 rankings. 


Tob231      ( Date: 28-Aug-2025 19:54) Posted:

Robert Kuok didn' t " name" Wilmar, but rather he merged the Kuok Group' s edible oil, trading, and oil palm plantation assets into Wilmar in 2007 in exchange for a large stake in the company.  This merger was a strategic move to consolidate the family' s commodity businesses under the rapidly growing Wilmar International, led by his nephew,  Kuok Khoon Hong,  which created one of Asia' s largest agri-food companies and solidified Robert Kuok' s indirect interest in the company.


 
 
tongphlp
    02-Sep-2025 10:40  
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WOW

Tob231      ( Date: 02-Sep-2025 07:57) Posted:

Malaysia' s richest, ' Sugar King' Robert Kuok, is turning 102: Meet the top 5 tycoons



Malaysia' s top business barons see a rise in wealth, now standing at over $90 billion
Last updated:  August 29, 2025 | 10:03
Jay Hilotin,  Senior Assistant Editor


Malaysia' s richest man, Robert Kuok, also known as " Asia' s Sugar King" , is turning 102 on October 6, 2025.


Currently, his empire spans agribusiness, real estate, and hospitality (Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts), while his longevity, grit, wealth, and philanthropic work have made him an enduring icon of Asian entrepreneurship and generosity.
Collectively Malaysia' s top tycoons saw a rise in wealth, now standing at $90 billion, buoyed by a stronger ringgit &mdash even amid a flat stock market, according to Forbes' 2025 rankings. 


Tob231      ( Date: 28-Aug-2025 19:54) Posted:

Robert Kuok didn' t " name" Wilmar, but rather he merged the Kuok Group' s edible oil, trading, and oil palm plantation assets into Wilmar in 2007 in exchange for a large stake in the company.  This merger was a strategic move to consolidate the family' s commodity businesses under the rapidly growing Wilmar International, led by his nephew,  Kuok Khoon Hong,  which created one of Asia' s largest agri-food companies and solidified Robert Kuok' s indirect interest in the company.


 
 
Tob231
    02-Sep-2025 07:57  
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Malaysia' s richest, ' Sugar King' Robert Kuok, is turning 102: Meet the top 5 tycoons



Malaysia' s top business barons see a rise in wealth, now standing at over $90 billion
Last updated:  August 29, 2025 | 10:03
Jay Hilotin,  Senior Assistant Editor


Malaysia' s richest man, Robert Kuok, also known as " Asia' s Sugar King" , is turning 102 on October 6, 2025.


Currently, his empire spans agribusiness, real estate, and hospitality (Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts), while his longevity, grit, wealth, and philanthropic work have made him an enduring icon of Asian entrepreneurship and generosity.
Collectively Malaysia' s top tycoons saw a rise in wealth, now standing at $90 billion, buoyed by a stronger ringgit &mdash even amid a flat stock market, according to Forbes' 2025 rankings. 


Tob231      ( Date: 28-Aug-2025 19:54) Posted:

Robert Kuok didn' t " name" Wilmar, but rather he merged the Kuok Group' s edible oil, trading, and oil palm plantation assets into Wilmar in 2007 in exchange for a large stake in the company.  This merger was a strategic move to consolidate the family' s commodity businesses under the rapidly growing Wilmar International, led by his nephew,  Kuok Khoon Hong,  which created one of Asia' s largest agri-food companies and solidified Robert Kuok' s indirect interest in the company.

 

 
Alignment
    28-Aug-2025 21:56  
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When you say peers who do you mean? The palm oil companies are not an appropriate comparison - Wilmar does far more, and across a wide range of commodities. As I mentioned earlier Olam may be a better comparison and their share price performance these last few years has been correspondingly similar.

Is the share price performance disappointing to someone who bought in at $5 a few years back? In one sense of course no one likes losing money, but on the other hand I think a more fruitful post mortem exercise is to ask oneself what did that person who bought in at $5 get wrong in their assumptions? I would suggest it would be either 1) they did not predict the underlying commodity price to rise so quickly, 2) they did not expect interest rates to rise so much so quickly, 3) they overestimated the company' s ability to pass these costs on to their customers. If they should be disappointed at something it should be that they missed one or more of 1), 2) or 3), because by missing it they missed the likelihood that the share price was going to fall. 
 
 
Tob231
    28-Aug-2025 19:54  
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Robert Kuok didn' t " name" Wilmar, but rather he merged the Kuok Group' s edible oil, trading, and oil palm plantation assets into Wilmar in 2007 in exchange for a large stake in the company.  This merger was a strategic move to consolidate the family' s commodity businesses under the rapidly growing Wilmar International, led by his nephew,  Kuok Khoon Hong,  which created one of Asia' s largest agri-food companies and solidified Robert Kuok' s indirect interest in the company.
 
 
Tob231
    28-Aug-2025 19:52  
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Thank you, Alignment for your insight. 
No, i' m a disgruntled ex-employee .... i' m sure we all heard of Sugar King Robert Kuok. 
is just that i cannot fathom why Wilmar is performing so poorly .... many of its peers are doing well.
past performance does have a bearing on the future .... is there a mismanagement by the management and so forth 
it is a fact that the price from 2011 keep dropping until today is below $3. quite disappointing ... don' t you think so .... and it is an index stock 

once again, thank you for your sharing. 
 
 
Alignment
    28-Aug-2025 19:17  
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I will also add that there are many similarities between Wilmar&rsquo s performance these last few years and Olam, in particular Olam&rsquo s food ingredients business OFI. OFI has had the same margin squeeze issue as Wilmar, with both forced to increase debt to fund working capital as underlying commodity prices rose. There is no gearing issue with net debt flat if you net off the working capital against the debt, but margins get hit by higher interest costs with gross debt rising at the same time as Powell starting the post COVID interest rate hikes, and both businesses only able to pass on the higher costs to customers after a time lag they have so far remained a step behind as just when they pass on the costs from a prior period they find their costs have gone up again.

With US interest rates probably about to start dropping significantly from next month I think this vicious circle is going to reverse itself so you will see the mirror dynamic &ndash margins rising as Wilmar/Olam&rsquo s costs go down and they don&rsquo t choose to pass on these cost benefits to their end customers. Of the two companies I much prefer Olam &ndash it is cheaper and crucially there is a big catalyst that Olam is explicitly in the process of breaking itself up. But I&rsquo m happy to hold some Wilmar shares as these prices as well.
 
 
Alignment
    28-Aug-2025 18:40  
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Speaking for myself only, I am not a loyal investor of any company for any reason aside from the belief I will make money. I buy when I think something is cheap and sell when I think something is expensive.

It is a fact that people who bought and held for the last 4-5 years are down (give or take 20% depending on the exact price bought in once dividends factored in). The main reason being Wilmar has been squeezed by being the middleman and unable to fully pass on rising commodity prices to its end customers.

Personally on this stock I have made some (not much) money over this period not from buying and holding but by trading &ndash buying and selling at generally speaking the right times through a bit of luck and skill. I was out until the last few days when I have started to buy back in again.

So I&rsquo m not crying into my tea about how I&rsquo m down from $5 and how badly it has performed over the past few years (in fact no-one should do that, even those who bought and held). I&rsquo m just thinking that buying at $3 and below, if the market environment does not get worse it is cheap and there is a lot of upside, and I&rsquo m being paid a 5% dividend yield to wait. The risk is that the margins do get worse, but I think the share price has fallen so much that there is a lot of safety buffer in the price. 

Investors should be forward looking, not backward looking.
 
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