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Kyoto2008
    04-Feb-2015 21:39  
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As I see it, DBS should not have any surprise.  On the housing loans side, I see UOB will suffer quite high non performing loans, there were already signs of lax lending in the past quarters.  OCBC could have some risks because of Wing Hang, we don really know if there' s any issue on loans, and this could spring a surprise if they have to write off any bad loans in a big way, thus putting huge pressure on the price.  I still see DBS as the safest bank among the three, as the loans are well controlled, they have POSB supplying a huge deposit base for them to lend.    Margins and competitiveness thus, would be superior for DBS.      The recent increases in interbank rates would really bolster DBS' s profits for the next few quarters as rates start hiking upwards.  The bank could surprise on the positive side for RMB treasury biz, investment banking boosting fee based income.      Private banking is a question mark, hope it can also give a positive surprise but at best neutral though with a good run in consumer banking in 2014 it' s more likely to be positive.    Note they bought Soc Gen' s pte banking arm and it' s a platform for the biz to take off under the charge of the pretty lady, what' s her name?
 
 
keano83
    04-Feb-2015 13:20  
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yeah recovered by 10 cent but better than nothing. Looks like those shortening them has stopped. Interesting

10 feb 15 is the earnings and announcing before market. As a retail investor, where can we see the results in real time?

Osim earnings came out yesterday and today it went up alot. I just want to be prepare if the earnings is bad. Finger crossed.

 

 
 
 
Immortal
    04-Feb-2015 08:51  
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Still waiting for 21.5
 

 
FATABA
    04-Feb-2015 08:48  
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gd morning...dow up 300...DBS recover ?
Anyway, dont assume the BB will wait for dividend...normally when results are out and dividend announced ...the price move up to include this.
And retail may rush in to push it up too.  BB may unload several rounds before the payout date. We nver know and cant assume they keep for dividend.

High value blue chips are risky for shortist mainly due to the high value involved.
Good luck .

keano83      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 22:08) Posted:



thanks all for reply. based on tech its current price is at lower boll band. hope that is a good sign, ironical eh

Hi Mr Fataba, yeap 10th feb is the earnings however dividend x date is on month of May itself..dont think they would push them so low as now right? or u are saying they wanna buy low and wait for the earnings out and if its a good news, they assume the price would be high till may and get the dividend?

just wanna get a sense of what you are interpreting, thanks!

Also why blue chips are normally not for short traders? high input due to well high price i assume?

thanks once again

FATABA      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 16:55) Posted:



BB can borrow scripts as in CFD.  as long as they wish ( pay interest on the amount....depend on counters etc)
Normally not very long .. a few weeks.  ( whatever when they buy back and cancel the position , and pay off an interest)
BUT investing in DBS and other big blue chips are normally not for short traders. ( I am not arguing with anyone here if they wish to short these too)
As next week is the results and Banks are certain to declar a dividend....I see them buying them by pushing it low to buy.
Anyway ....can get caught if someone come out and buy in ( temasek ?)
I am vested. and awaiting patiently for the results. Gd luck


 
 
Kyoto2008
    04-Feb-2015 08:09  
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Price of DBS travels in waves, u see dips in Oct and Dec immediately after which, a rally upwards higher than the dip.      This time round, the tip has tested supports, and as someone pointed out is now at the tip of the lower bollinger band.

If it follows the same pattern as in Oct & Dec, this time round the rally would bring it up to test new highs.    And the results would help.   
 
 
Immortal
    03-Feb-2015 23:09  
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tomorrow will be even better....
 

 
keano83
    03-Feb-2015 22:08  
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thanks all for reply. based on tech its current price is at lower boll band. hope that is a good sign, ironical eh

Hi Mr Fataba, yeap 10th feb is the earnings however dividend x date is on month of May itself..dont think they would push them so low as now right? or u are saying they wanna buy low and wait for the earnings out and if its a good news, they assume the price would be high till may and get the dividend?

just wanna get a sense of what you are interpreting, thanks!

Also why blue chips are normally not for short traders? high input due to well high price i assume?

thanks once again

FATABA      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 16:55) Posted:



BB can borrow scripts as in CFD.  as long as they wish ( pay interest on the amount....depend on counters etc)
Normally not very long .. a few weeks.  ( whatever when they buy back and cancel the position , and pay off an interest)
BUT investing in DBS and other big blue chips are normally not for short traders. ( I am not arguing with anyone here if they wish to short these too)
As next week is the results and Banks are certain to declar a dividend....I see them buying them by pushing it low to buy.
Anyway ....can get caught if someone come out and buy in ( temasek ?)
I am vested. and awaiting patiently for the results. Gd luck

keano83      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 16:18) Posted:



thanks for replying and confirm this theory which i had jus analyzed - of US houses are selling ( before i saw ur reply ) why?

on the day before fomc, mas decrease the slope hence usdsgd woul be expensive. If currency is working against them, why would they keep them? 

" The BB can loan scripts from SGX on those on hand and short them first." = so when do they need to buy back

i got some lots..dunno shd i hold anot lol


 
 
Kyoto2008
    03-Feb-2015 21:57  
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Tomorrow may do a swing up as US mkt gets a boost at opening today.

DBS moves up and down, and past few days have been quite volatile in currency trading, plus negative news on China' s economy (PMI), although there seems nothing to do with DBS.

With the price down, DBS begin to look more attractive to fund managers.      Expect good results, and better quarters ahead as interest rates continue rising.
 
 
Susannair12345
    03-Feb-2015 18:53  
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Still holding... but very confused...
 
 
Immortal
    03-Feb-2015 18:48  
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Bottom should be close by for DBS
 

 
FATABA
    03-Feb-2015 16:55  
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BB can borrow scripts as in CFD.  as long as they wish ( pay interest on the amount....depend on counters etc)
Normally not very long .. a few weeks.  ( whatever when they buy back and cancel the position , and pay off an interest)
BUT investing in DBS and other big blue chips are normally not for short traders. ( I am not arguing with anyone here if they wish to short these too)
As next week is the results and Banks are certain to declar a dividend....I see them buying them by pushing it low to buy.
Anyway ....can get caught if someone come out and buy in ( temasek ?)
I am vested. and awaiting patiently for the results. Gd luck

keano83      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 16:18) Posted:



thanks for replying and confirm this theory which i had jus analyzed - of US houses are selling ( before i saw ur reply ) why?

on the day before fomc, mas decrease the slope hence usdsgd woul be expensive. If currency is working against them, why would they keep them? 

" The BB can loan scripts from SGX on those on hand and short them first." = so when do they need to buy back

i got some lots..dunno shd i hold anot lol

 
 
keano83
    03-Feb-2015 16:54  
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well im new in investing so if possible pls guide me along. thanks very much

Does anyone know how to check the flows in the stock, ie who and where they buying from? im a retail investor..hence i think its pretty hard to get the flows right?
 
 
keano83
    03-Feb-2015 16:18  
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thanks for replying and confirm this theory which i had jus analyzed - of US houses are selling ( before i saw ur reply ) why?

on the day before fomc, mas decrease the slope hence usdsgd woul be expensive. If currency is working against them, why would they keep them? 

" The BB can loan scripts from SGX on those on hand and short them first." = so when do they need to buy back

i got some lots..dunno shd i hold anot lol
 
 
FATABA
    03-Feb-2015 15:36  
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Those who bot back same day are honestly small player. The BB can loan scripts from SGX on those on hand and short them first.
For your infor, some of the sellers are big US houses.

BUT DBS result is next tue...which give them ONLY the nex 3/4 days at most. ( as DBS should have a good set of results)

In fact I think it is a good opportunity to buy in ....check it out on your own pls.
Good luck

keano83      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 14:35) Posted:



Checked SGX short selling data and found out from 28th till now, lots of shorters..started from post fomc

currently a huge buy volume at 19.60..hopefully stay that way.

Btw if one is to short, he needs to buy back on the day itself, right? net effect there would be no effect on the share price itself, just to make sure?

http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_ordershttp://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_orders

Do u guys know other details other than that pls?

thanks!

 
 
keano83
    03-Feb-2015 14:42  
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i would like to be neutral but i cant...19.50? hahaha! dependable when greece good news is out to give it another surge..and yes feb 10th the earnings report.
 

 
Immortal
    03-Feb-2015 14:39  
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Looks like it is a game for bank stocks. How low will DBS go before a wave of buying comes on.
 
 
keano83
    03-Feb-2015 14:35  
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Checked SGX short selling data and found out from 28th till now, lots of shorters..started from post fomc

currently a huge buy volume at 19.60..hopefully stay that way.

Btw if one is to short, he needs to buy back on the day itself, right? net effect there would be no effect on the share price itself, just to make sure?

http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_ordershttp://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_orders

Do u guys know other details other than that pls?

thanks!
 
 
hlfoo2010
    03-Feb-2015 09:31  
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down to 19.5-  ---- 18
 
 
FATABA
    03-Feb-2015 09:10  
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DBS is under going some profit taking. Dont forget it has run up for some time and hit the $20 mark several times.
Result is Tue 10th....maybe an opp for more acumulation haha.....expect a good set of results with surprise angpow for SG50 ?
good luck

ytoh1688      ( Date: 03-Feb-2015 08:48) Posted:



relaz bro...give ocbc a chance....dbs need to sleep a while with uob

Immortal      ( Date: 30-Jan-2015 12:45) Posted:



OCBC already broken through super resistance....when is your turn DBS to move


 
 
ytoh1688
    03-Feb-2015 08:48  
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relaz bro...give ocbc a chance....dbs need to sleep a while with uob

Immortal      ( Date: 30-Jan-2015 12:45) Posted:



OCBC already broken through super resistance....when is your turn DBS to move

 
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