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kiattttt
    07-Sep-2021 10:02  
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Ok mrunwise. Maybe instead of saying soon soon soon all the time, why not contribute something but forecasting an actual timeline. 

mrwise      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 09:51) Posted:

You are a real joker!!! hahahah...



 

kiattttt      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 09:41) Posted:

Simply because most ppl here only wants to hear the good stuff and choose to block out other opinions. Continue with the insults (


 
 
AwakenTide
    07-Sep-2021 10:00  
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Don' t be such a pest !!! Please be considerate to those bought high even above 40c in the past. You haven' t own a single Oceanus shares but posing yourself like a malafide full of ill intention for your own benefit. Move on pls, and stop mentally challenge many gurus here.

kiattttt      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 09:41) Posted:

Simply because most ppl here only wants to hear the good stuff and choose to block out other opinions. Continue with the insults (:

Lightyear      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 00:35) Posted:

Guess you still dunno why people start to be upset with you .. your EQ is low for sure.


 
 
AlaFun
    07-Sep-2021 09:54  
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For god sake, put it simple, what approach you would use to value this company?

Free cash flow?
P/E?
P/S?
P/B?
P/EV?
P/EBIDTA?
Sum of parts?
Comparative transactions?
Ok, taking into account growth, PEG?

None of these above approach justifies its current high market cap.

Don' t just close your eyes, just because it achieved 5x topline growth (still very thin margin, not driven by tech, operating loss), and say cheap to buy.

Come on, what is your supernormal model exactly, convince me.

dontbeconned      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 06:54) Posted:

Oceanus is a shares which had been experiencing accumulated losses over the past  years. Those   authors using NBV, PE , dividend model should disposed all their shares since there is no intrinsic value for this shares if you are not taking the exponential growth into your valuation model. The very fact that you are in this forum because you believe there is vale in this shares .A good analyst cannot value a share solely based on past performances, their growth potential must be taken into consideration. . Due to   the usage of wrong valuation model, many analysts had misled retail investors and led them to the grave.     In valuating oceanus share price we must use the supernormal growth model because oceanus     display unusually rapid growth for an extended period&mdash a year and   longer&mdash that   outpaces current growth in the overall economy. . Many of the most successful companies in history have enjoyed supernormal growth at some point in their development.  I do not wish to come up with a figure because I cannot estimate when and how fast  the competitors will enter the market to put oceanus growth to a normal rate and the prolong  convid 19 may add impetus to the growth rate. .  Having said that, oceanus share are definitely worth much more than the present value. It is advisable to take a look because of your low investment outlay if you have spare cash.   If you are holding the shares, don&rsquo t sell .

 

 
mrwise
    07-Sep-2021 09:51  
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You are a real joker!!! hahahah...



 

kiattttt      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 09:41) Posted:

Simply because most ppl here only wants to hear the good stuff and choose to block out other opinions. Continue with the insults (:

Lightyear      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 00:35) Posted:

Guess you still dunno why people start to be upset with you .. your EQ is low for sure.


 
 
kiattttt
    07-Sep-2021 09:41  
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Simply because most ppl here only wants to hear the good stuff and choose to block out other opinions. Continue with the insults (:

Lightyear      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 00:35) Posted:

Guess you still dunno why people start to be upset with you .. your EQ is low for sure.

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 21:06) Posted:

My views were very very objective and unbiased when i started posting here. It was when ppl start getting rude then my tone starts to change. I will surely respect those that respect me as well but sadly most ppl here don' t know basic respec


 
 
lookingformore
    07-Sep-2021 09:33  
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mrwise
    07-Sep-2021 08:07  
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Agree totally!

Best time to buy....before it rocket up after the long consolidation!



dontbeconned      ( Date: 07-Sep-2021 06:54) Posted:

Oceanus is a shares which had been experiencing accumulated losses over the past  years. Those   authors using NBV, PE , dividend model should disposed all their shares since there is no intrinsic value for this shares if you are not taking the exponential growth into your valuation model. The very fact that you are in this forum because you believe there is vale in this shares .A good analyst cannot value a share solely based on past performances, their growth potential must be taken into consideration. . Due to   the usage of wrong valuation model, many analysts had misled retail investors and led them to the grave.     In valuating oceanus share price we must use the supernormal growth model because oceanus     display unusually rapid growth for an extended period&mdash a year and   longer&mdash that   outpaces current growth in the overall economy. . Many of the most successful companies in history have enjoyed supernormal growth at some point in their development.  I do not wish to come up with a figure because I cannot estimate when and how fast  the competitors will enter the market to put oceanus growth to a normal rate and the prolong  convid 19 may add impetus to the growth rate. .  Having said that, oceanus share are definitely worth much more than the present value. It is advisable to take a look because of your low investment outlay if you have spare cash.   If you are holding the shares, don&rsquo t sell .

 
 
dontbeconned
    07-Sep-2021 06:54  
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Oceanus is a shares which had been experiencing accumulated losses over the past  years. Those   authors using NBV, PE , dividend model should disposed all their shares since there is no intrinsic value for this shares if you are not taking the exponential growth into your valuation model. The very fact that you are in this forum because you believe there is vale in this shares .A good analyst cannot value a share solely based on past performances, their growth potential must be taken into consideration. . Due to   the usage of wrong valuation model, many analysts had misled retail investors and led them to the grave.     In valuating oceanus share price we must use the supernormal growth model because oceanus     display unusually rapid growth for an extended period&mdash a year and   longer&mdash that   outpaces current growth in the overall economy. . Many of the most successful companies in history have enjoyed supernormal growth at some point in their development.  I do not wish to come up with a figure because I cannot estimate when and how fast  the competitors will enter the market to put oceanus growth to a normal rate and the prolong  convid 19 may add impetus to the growth rate. .  Having said that, oceanus share are definitely worth much more than the present value. It is advisable to take a look because of your low investment outlay if you have spare cash.   If you are holding the shares, don&rsquo t sell .
 
 
Lightyear
    07-Sep-2021 00:35  
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Guess you still dunno why people start to be upset with you .. your EQ is low for sure.

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 21:06) Posted:

My views were very very objective and unbiased when i started posting here. It was when ppl start getting rude then my tone starts to change. I will surely respect those that respect me as well but sadly most ppl here don' t know basic respect

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:35) Posted:

lol what a joke. ok u win la u win la.

i don' t think anyone here but u claim that they are offering advice to others. however, is your intention really to offer advice and warn others not to get trapped by this stock? i think not. posting stuff like " Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again" and " Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?" show clearly that you are not here to offer advice like what you claim. i have been observing your posts for quite some time and you always offer such pointless rebuttals.

so conclusion, you like to win let u win lor.


 
 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 21:06  
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My views were very very objective and unbiased when i started posting here. It was when ppl start getting rude then my tone starts to change. I will surely respect those that respect me as well but sadly most ppl here don' t know basic respect

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:35) Posted:

lol what a joke. ok u win la u win la.

i don' t think anyone here but u claim that they are offering advice to others. however, is your intention really to offer advice and warn others not to get trapped by this stock? i think not. posting stuff like " Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again" and " Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?" show clearly that you are not here to offer advice like what you claim. i have been observing your posts for quite some time and you always offer such pointless rebuttals.

so conclusion, you like to win let u win lor.


kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:22) Posted:

Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can


 

 
Redstar8730
    06-Sep-2021 19:58  
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He must be suffering from psychopathic inferiority. Poor thing. 
 
 
ringo88
    06-Sep-2021 18:29  
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Win? Win who, win what?

The more the responses to his posts, the more he thrives.

I think he's enjoying poking you guys in the rib and seeing your reactions.

Why react to intellectual bankruptcy?


adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:35) Posted:

lol what a joke. ok u win la u win la.

i don' t think anyone here but u claim that they are offering advice to others. however, is your intention really to offer advice and warn others not to get trapped by this stock? i think not. posting stuff like " Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again" and " Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?" show clearly that you are not here to offer advice like what you claim. i have been observing your posts for quite some time and you always offer such pointless rebuttals.

so conclusion, you like to win let u win lor.


kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:22) Posted:

Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can


 
 
revolvingdoors
    06-Sep-2021 17:52  
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" intellectually bankrupt.." what a pretty phrase  yes

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:30) Posted:

Exactly.  I believe you have just summarised what many feel in this forum.  At least it did for me, so thank you.

It is puzzling why someone would spend extended periods of time on another company' s forum to trash talk a company' s prospects.  Especially when they are uninvested and not even shorting.  You can' t help but wonder what are their motivations.  If there were merits to their arguments or openness in their demeanour, it could still be a meaningful engagement.  But they rehearse the same points taken out of context over and over again.    Also, to conclude Oceanus is a " bad investment" by comparing to a company in a completely different industry or business cycle is intellectually bankrupt.   

Such behaviour is immature, buffoonish and detrimental to a public forum.  Let' s have some self-respect.  The share price going down does not vindicate bad behaviour.

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 16:00) Posted:

I really can' t stand this  kiattttt guy anymore. You claim to be warning people not to be trapped by this stock, but all you are doing is to keep repeating the same points over and over. I believe all of us here have seen them, but whether we want to heed your advice or not, that' s up to us. Not really sure what' s your purpose in trying to shove your views down our throats. You don' t believe in this stock, say your piece and leave. As far as I can tell, you talk big but refuse to accept any challenges issued by other people. Seriously your posts bore me out. Enough please.


 
 
adawong
    06-Sep-2021 17:35  
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lol what a joke. ok u win la u win la.

i don' t think anyone here but u claim that they are offering advice to others. however, is your intention really to offer advice and warn others not to get trapped by this stock? i think not. posting stuff like " Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again" and " Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?" show clearly that you are not here to offer advice like what you claim. i have been observing your posts for quite some time and you always offer such pointless rebuttals.

so conclusion, you like to win let u win lor.


kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:22) Posted:

Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:18) Posted:

jesus. you can' t seem to stop your trash talk eh? would you consider such post as " advice" to prevent people from getting trapped too? close low you come gloat, close high you ever exhibit shame and apologise


 
 
mondaybluesy
    06-Sep-2021 17:30  
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Exactly.  I believe you have just summarised what many feel in this forum.  At least it did for me, so thank you.

It is puzzling why someone would spend extended periods of time on another company' s forum to trash talk a company' s prospects.  Especially when they are uninvested and not even shorting.  You can' t help but wonder what are their motivations.  If there were merits to their arguments or openness in their demeanour, it could still be a meaningful engagement.  But they rehearse the same points taken out of context over and over again.    Also, to conclude Oceanus is a " bad investment" by comparing to a company in a completely different industry or business cycle is intellectually bankrupt.   

Such behaviour is immature, buffoonish and detrimental to a public forum.  Let' s have some self-respect.  The share price going down does not vindicate bad behaviour.

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 16:00) Posted:

I really can' t stand this  kiattttt guy anymore. You claim to be warning people not to be trapped by this stock, but all you are doing is to keep repeating the same points over and over. I believe all of us here have seen them, but whether we want to heed your advice or not, that' s up to us. Not really sure what' s your purpose in trying to shove your views down our throats. You don' t believe in this stock, say your piece and leave. As far as I can tell, you talk big but refuse to accept any challenges issued by other people. Seriously your posts bore me out. Enough please.

 

 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 17:22  
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Must be fair what. If close high I apologize then close low u all apologize also can?

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:18) Posted:

jesus. you can' t seem to stop your trash talk eh? would you consider such post as " advice" to prevent people from getting trapped too? close low you come gloat, close high you ever exhibit shame and apologise?

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:06) Posted:

Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again


 
 
adawong
    06-Sep-2021 17:18  
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jesus. you can' t seem to stop your trash talk eh? would you consider such post as " advice" to prevent people from getting trapped too? close low you come gloat, close high you ever exhibit shame and apologise?

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:06) Posted:

Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again

 
 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 17:06  
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Ouch...close low when pennies start to run again
 
 
weekndr
    06-Sep-2021 17:05  
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敢 说 敢 当 ... Will only be a matter of time before these unsubstantiated, bare assertions and allegations face defamatory action. At which point, these naysayers with their exaggerated claims have to face the music. 

That' ll be interesting.  来 , grab popcorn and watch smiley

Wanderer_JCHP      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 17:01) Posted:

Exactly. Who would spend so much time on a forum that one is not vested only to get told off. Lol.

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 16:00) Posted:

I really can' t stand this  kiattttt guy anymore. You claim to be warning people not to be trapped by this stock, but all you are doing is to keep repeating the same points over and over. I believe all of us here have seen them, but whether we want to heed your advice or not, that' s up to us. Not really sure what' s your purpose in trying to shove your views down our throats. You don' t believe in this stock, say your piece and leave. As far as I can tell, you talk big but refuse to accept any challenges issued by other people. Seriously your posts bore me out. Enough please.


 
 
bornloser
    06-Sep-2021 17:02  
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I, too invest for 3 years. Will invest more if exit watch list is confirmed So far 1H FR fell below my expectation
 
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