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chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 18:21) Posted:
https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-sgd
https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/us
https://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil
before the US rate hikes cycle from the FED
ocbc traded at
| Dec 21, 2021 |
11.25 |
11.34 |
11.21 |
11.21 |
9.76 |
2,819,000 |
| Dec 20, 2021 |
11.22 |
11.28 |
11.18 |
11.20 |
9.75 |
5,366,443 |
| Dec 17, 2021 |
11.39 |
11.46 |
11.37 |
11.37 |
9.90 |
11,752,480 |
| Dec 16, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.41 |
11.26 |
11.38 |
9.91 |
4,192,500 |
| Dec 15, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.33 |
11.25 |
11.29 |
9.83 |
3,443,400 |
| Dec 14, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.37 |
11.28 |
11.32 |
9.85 |
2,721,500 |
| Dec 13, 2021 |
11.43 |
11.44 |
11.30 |
11.30 |
9.84 |
3,763,300 |
| Dec 10, 2021 |
11.31 |
11.37 |
11.28 |
11.35 |
9.88 |
3,754,700 |
| Dec 9, 2021 |
11.38 |
11.43 |
11.30 |
11.34 |
9.87 |
5,885,400 |
| Dec 8, 2021 |
11.47 |
11.49 |
11.38 |
11.39 |
9.91 |
3,537,500 |
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 09:48) Posted:
https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Offer_Announcement_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802889
https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Notice_of_voluntary_unconditional_general%20offer_for_Great_Eastern_Holdings_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802890
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https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-sgd
https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/us
https://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil
before the US rate hikes cycle from the FED
ocbc traded at
| Dec 21, 2021 |
11.25 |
11.34 |
11.21 |
11.21 |
9.76 |
2,819,000 |
| Dec 20, 2021 |
11.22 |
11.28 |
11.18 |
11.20 |
9.75 |
5,366,443 |
| Dec 17, 2021 |
11.39 |
11.46 |
11.37 |
11.37 |
9.90 |
11,752,480 |
| Dec 16, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.41 |
11.26 |
11.38 |
9.91 |
4,192,500 |
| Dec 15, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.33 |
11.25 |
11.29 |
9.83 |
3,443,400 |
| Dec 14, 2021 |
11.28 |
11.37 |
11.28 |
11.32 |
9.85 |
2,721,500 |
| Dec 13, 2021 |
11.43 |
11.44 |
11.30 |
11.30 |
9.84 |
3,763,300 |
| Dec 10, 2021 |
11.31 |
11.37 |
11.28 |
11.35 |
9.88 |
3,754,700 |
| Dec 9, 2021 |
11.38 |
11.43 |
11.30 |
11.34 |
9.87 |
5,885,400 |
| Dec 8, 2021 |
11.47 |
11.49 |
11.38 |
11.39 |
9.91 |
3,537,500 |
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 09:48) Posted:
https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Offer_Announcement_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802889
https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Notice_of_voluntary_unconditional_general%20offer_for_Great_Eastern_Holdings_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802890
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 09:43) Posted:
Analysts, investors must challenge status quo to unlock value, forge a more vibrant market
The widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks may have reduced the incentive to run companies for the benefit of minority investors
Published Mon, Jul 24, 2023 · 05:00 AM
The statement suggests that there is a perception of widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks, which may have implications for how companies are managed and how investors approach the market. Here are some key points to consider based on the statement:
- Undervaluation of Singapore Stocks:
- The statement implies that many stocks listed in Singapore' s market are believed to be undervalued. This could be due to a variety of factors, including market sentiment, economic conditions, or investor perceptions about the future prospects of these companies.
- Incentive Structure:
- The perception of undervaluation may impact the incentive structure for company management. If stock prices do not reflect the true value of the company, there may be reduced motivation for management to prioritize actions that benefit minority investors, such as maximizing shareholder value or improving corporate governance.
- Challenging the Status Quo:
- Analysts and investors are encouraged to challenge the status quo and question prevailing market assumptions. By conducting thorough analysis and due diligence, they can uncover opportunities and identify undervalued stocks that have the potential for long-term growth and value creation.
- Unlocking Value:
- Challenging the status quo can help unlock value in the market by identifying mispriced assets and encouraging companies to adopt strategies that enhance shareholder value. This may involve advocating for changes in corporate governance, operational efficiency, or capital allocation practices.
- Vibrant Market:
- A vibrant market is characterized by active participation, efficient price discovery, and fair treatment of all investors. By challenging the status quo and addressing undervaluation, analysts and investors contribute to creating a more dynamic and resilient market ecosystem that benefits all stakeholders.
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https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Offer_Announcement_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802889
https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Notice_of_voluntary_unconditional_general%20offer_for_Great_Eastern_Holdings_10May2024.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=802890
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 09:43) Posted:
Analysts, investors must challenge status quo to unlock value, forge a more vibrant market
The widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks may have reduced the incentive to run companies for the benefit of minority investors
Published Mon, Jul 24, 2023 · 05:00 AM
The statement suggests that there is a perception of widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks, which may have implications for how companies are managed and how investors approach the market. Here are some key points to consider based on the statement:
- Undervaluation of Singapore Stocks:
- The statement implies that many stocks listed in Singapore' s market are believed to be undervalued. This could be due to a variety of factors, including market sentiment, economic conditions, or investor perceptions about the future prospects of these companies.
- Incentive Structure:
- The perception of undervaluation may impact the incentive structure for company management. If stock prices do not reflect the true value of the company, there may be reduced motivation for management to prioritize actions that benefit minority investors, such as maximizing shareholder value or improving corporate governance.
- Challenging the Status Quo:
- Analysts and investors are encouraged to challenge the status quo and question prevailing market assumptions. By conducting thorough analysis and due diligence, they can uncover opportunities and identify undervalued stocks that have the potential for long-term growth and value creation.
- Unlocking Value:
- Challenging the status quo can help unlock value in the market by identifying mispriced assets and encouraging companies to adopt strategies that enhance shareholder value. This may involve advocating for changes in corporate governance, operational efficiency, or capital allocation practices.
- Vibrant Market:
- A vibrant market is characterized by active participation, efficient price discovery, and fair treatment of all investors. By challenging the status quo and addressing undervaluation, analysts and investors contribute to creating a more dynamic and resilient market ecosystem that benefits all stakeholders.
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 04:41) Posted:
| the external situation is liked
https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-10-year-bond-yield
https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-sgd
https://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html
https://goldbroker.com/charts/gold-price/myr
rich malaysians are buying sg assets to protect from the falling myr against sgd
https://www.investing.com/currencies/sgd-myr
https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/
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Analysts, investors must challenge status quo to unlock value, forge a more vibrant market
The widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks may have reduced the incentive to run companies for the benefit of minority investors
Published Mon, Jul 24, 2023 · 05:00 AM
The statement suggests that there is a perception of widespread undervaluation of Singapore stocks, which may have implications for how companies are managed and how investors approach the market. Here are some key points to consider based on the statement:
- Undervaluation of Singapore Stocks:
- The statement implies that many stocks listed in Singapore' s market are believed to be undervalued. This could be due to a variety of factors, including market sentiment, economic conditions, or investor perceptions about the future prospects of these companies.
- Incentive Structure:
- The perception of undervaluation may impact the incentive structure for company management. If stock prices do not reflect the true value of the company, there may be reduced motivation for management to prioritize actions that benefit minority investors, such as maximizing shareholder value or improving corporate governance.
- Challenging the Status Quo:
- Analysts and investors are encouraged to challenge the status quo and question prevailing market assumptions. By conducting thorough analysis and due diligence, they can uncover opportunities and identify undervalued stocks that have the potential for long-term growth and value creation.
- Unlocking Value:
- Challenging the status quo can help unlock value in the market by identifying mispriced assets and encouraging companies to adopt strategies that enhance shareholder value. This may involve advocating for changes in corporate governance, operational efficiency, or capital allocation practices.
- Vibrant Market:
- A vibrant market is characterized by active participation, efficient price discovery, and fair treatment of all investors. By challenging the status quo and addressing undervaluation, analysts and investors contribute to creating a more dynamic and resilient market ecosystem that benefits all stakeholders.
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 04:41) Posted:
| the external situation is liked
https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-10-year-bond-yield
https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-sgd
https://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html
https://goldbroker.com/charts/gold-price/myr
rich malaysians are buying sg assets to protect from the falling myr against sgd
https://www.investing.com/currencies/sgd-myr
https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 04:18) Posted:
to me,UOI at $6.20 look reasonable to me in 2024
OCBC' s bid for Great Eastern Life to boost sector valuations
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958.
The bid for Great Eastern Life by Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) is expected to positively impact the valuation of its peers, Prudential and AIA, in the Asian Life Insurance market.
The bid, which values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x FY 2023F P/EV (a 37% increase from 0.51x), suggests that listed Asian Life Insurance peers should see a valuation boost, a Jefferies Equity Research note said.
Prudential currently trades at 0.56x P/EV, and AIA at 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA are gaining market share from Great Eastern Life, particularly in Malaysia and Singapore, and are less sensitive to financial market risks.
The OCBC bid values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x P/EV, 1.54x P/B, and 15.6x P/E, based on FY 2023 numbers.
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This valuation narrows the gap with Prudential' s 0.56x P/EV and is closer to AIA' s 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA have significant market shares in Malaysia and Singapore.
Prudential has 6.3% of its group annual premium equivalent (APE) in Malaysia and 13.1% in Singapore. AIA has 6.7% of its group annual new premiums (ANP) in Malaysia and 6.6% in Singapore.
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958 and is its largest bancassurance partner.
ALSO READ: OCBC courts Great Eastern with S$1.4b offer
The offer is for S$25.60 per share, a 36.9% premium to the last traded price, equating to S$1.4b (approximately US$1.0b) for the 11.56% minority stake OCBC does not already own.
Existing shareholders will still receive the FY 2023 tax-exempt dividend of 40 cents per share. The bid increases Great Eastern Life' s valuation from 0.51x P/EV to 0.70x, 1.12x P/B to 1.54x, and 11.4x P/E to 15.6x P/E.
The rationale behind OCBC' s bid aligns with its strategy to focus on four growth pillars, including capturing regional wealth flows.
Full ownership of Great Eastern Life, which already contributes 15% of OCBC' s earnings, would be accretive to profits due to existing substantial synergies.
This move is part of OCBC&rsquo s long-term strategy, with previous stake increases in 2004 and 2006.
Sam Wong, a Singaporean banks analyst, noted that the deal aims to solidify OCBC' s wealth position and capture rising Asian wealth with a " One Group" approach.
The acquisition is expected to add 0.2 percentage points to OCBC' s group ROE and reduce its CET1 ratio by 0.6 percentage points, potentially limiting short-term capital returns.
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the external situation is liked
https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-10-year-bond-yield
https://www.investing.com/currencies/usd-sgd
https://goldprice.org/live-gold-price.html
https://goldbroker.com/charts/gold-price/myr
rich malaysians are buying sg assets to protect from the falling myr against sgd
https://www.investing.com/currencies/sgd-myr
https://www.cboe.com/tradable_products/vix/
https://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/
chartiskao ( Date: 15-May-2024 04:18) Posted:
to me,UOI at $6.20 look reasonable to me in 2024
OCBC' s bid for Great Eastern Life to boost sector valuations
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958.
The bid for Great Eastern Life by Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) is expected to positively impact the valuation of its peers, Prudential and AIA, in the Asian Life Insurance market.
The bid, which values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x FY 2023F P/EV (a 37% increase from 0.51x), suggests that listed Asian Life Insurance peers should see a valuation boost, a Jefferies Equity Research note said.
Prudential currently trades at 0.56x P/EV, and AIA at 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA are gaining market share from Great Eastern Life, particularly in Malaysia and Singapore, and are less sensitive to financial market risks.
The OCBC bid values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x P/EV, 1.54x P/B, and 15.6x P/E, based on FY 2023 numbers.
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This valuation narrows the gap with Prudential' s 0.56x P/EV and is closer to AIA' s 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA have significant market shares in Malaysia and Singapore.
Prudential has 6.3% of its group annual premium equivalent (APE) in Malaysia and 13.1% in Singapore. AIA has 6.7% of its group annual new premiums (ANP) in Malaysia and 6.6% in Singapore.
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958 and is its largest bancassurance partner.
ALSO READ: OCBC courts Great Eastern with S$1.4b offer
The offer is for S$25.60 per share, a 36.9% premium to the last traded price, equating to S$1.4b (approximately US$1.0b) for the 11.56% minority stake OCBC does not already own.
Existing shareholders will still receive the FY 2023 tax-exempt dividend of 40 cents per share. The bid increases Great Eastern Life' s valuation from 0.51x P/EV to 0.70x, 1.12x P/B to 1.54x, and 11.4x P/E to 15.6x P/E.
The rationale behind OCBC' s bid aligns with its strategy to focus on four growth pillars, including capturing regional wealth flows.
Full ownership of Great Eastern Life, which already contributes 15% of OCBC' s earnings, would be accretive to profits due to existing substantial synergies.
This move is part of OCBC&rsquo s long-term strategy, with previous stake increases in 2004 and 2006.
Sam Wong, a Singaporean banks analyst, noted that the deal aims to solidify OCBC' s wealth position and capture rising Asian wealth with a " One Group" approach.
The acquisition is expected to add 0.2 percentage points to OCBC' s group ROE and reduce its CET1 ratio by 0.6 percentage points, potentially limiting short-term capital returns.
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 14:00) Posted:
| For me just buy at reasonable prices gaoliao |
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to me,UOI at $6.20 look reasonable to me in 2024
OCBC' s bid for Great Eastern Life to boost sector valuations
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958.
The bid for Great Eastern Life by Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) is expected to positively impact the valuation of its peers, Prudential and AIA, in the Asian Life Insurance market.
The bid, which values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x FY 2023F P/EV (a 37% increase from 0.51x), suggests that listed Asian Life Insurance peers should see a valuation boost, a Jefferies Equity Research note said.
Prudential currently trades at 0.56x P/EV, and AIA at 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA are gaining market share from Great Eastern Life, particularly in Malaysia and Singapore, and are less sensitive to financial market risks.
The OCBC bid values Great Eastern Life at 0.70x P/EV, 1.54x P/B, and 15.6x P/E, based on FY 2023 numbers.
Join Singapore Business Review community
Your e-mail address
This valuation narrows the gap with Prudential' s 0.56x P/EV and is closer to AIA' s 1.35x P/EV. Both Prudential and AIA have significant market shares in Malaysia and Singapore.
Prudential has 6.3% of its group annual premium equivalent (APE) in Malaysia and 13.1% in Singapore. AIA has 6.7% of its group annual new premiums (ANP) in Malaysia and 6.6% in Singapore.
OCBC has been a shareholder in Great Eastern Life since 1958 and is its largest bancassurance partner.
ALSO READ: OCBC courts Great Eastern with S$1.4b offer
The offer is for S$25.60 per share, a 36.9% premium to the last traded price, equating to S$1.4b (approximately US$1.0b) for the 11.56% minority stake OCBC does not already own.
Existing shareholders will still receive the FY 2023 tax-exempt dividend of 40 cents per share. The bid increases Great Eastern Life' s valuation from 0.51x P/EV to 0.70x, 1.12x P/B to 1.54x, and 11.4x P/E to 15.6x P/E.
The rationale behind OCBC' s bid aligns with its strategy to focus on four growth pillars, including capturing regional wealth flows.
Full ownership of Great Eastern Life, which already contributes 15% of OCBC' s earnings, would be accretive to profits due to existing substantial synergies.
This move is part of OCBC&rsquo s long-term strategy, with previous stake increases in 2004 and 2006.
Sam Wong, a Singaporean banks analyst, noted that the deal aims to solidify OCBC' s wealth position and capture rising Asian wealth with a " One Group" approach.
The acquisition is expected to add 0.2 percentage points to OCBC' s group ROE and reduce its CET1 ratio by 0.6 percentage points, potentially limiting short-term capital returns.
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 14:00) Posted:
| For me just buy at reasonable prices gaoliao |
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For me just buy at reasonable prices gaoliao
when i hit by fear and stood in front of stock market dare not do anyting and missed the opportunity for not buying anything
https://www.ig.com/sg/trading-strategies/the-worst-stock-market-crashes-of-all-time-181031
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLT6m9Z_DRE
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 12:14) Posted:
Buy low
Now this is a very simple concept to preach, but very difficult to execute. When prices are high, a lot of investors are buying a lot of stocks as we saw in the heydays of 2007 and early 2008. And when the markets crashed and had reached their multi-year lows in late 2008, there weren&rsquo t any buyers.
I still remember that period post the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy when each and every expert appearing on CNBC or other business channels was pronouncing the death of equities. When the Sensex was at 8,000, these experts were predicting the 5,000 levels.
Such are the times that provide a very good hunting ground for small investors. If you buy quality stocks when no one else is buying, you&rsquo ll get things cheap. Only then will you do a lot better than other investors over the long term.
Absolutely, buying low is a fundamental principle of successful investing. It requires discipline, patience, and the ability to withstand market pessimism. When everyone else is fearful and selling, it' s often the best time to be buying quality assets at discounted prices.
The period you mentioned after the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy was indeed a prime example of market pessimism reaching extreme levels. Many investors were driven by fear and panic, leading to widespread selling and undervaluation of quality stocks.
For those who were able to maintain a long-term perspective and resist the urge to follow the crowd, it presented a significant opportunity to accumulate assets at bargain prices. This contrarian approach, buying when others are selling, is often what separates successful investors from the rest.
While it can be emotionally challenging to go against the prevailing sentiment, history has shown that those who have the courage to do so are often rewarded in the long run. As Warren Buffett famously said, " Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."
Ultimately, buying quality stocks at low prices requires conviction in your investment thesis, a focus on fundamentals rather than short-term fluctuations, and the willingness to stay the course even when others are doubting your decisions.
but i get your one family bank shares when you guys screw them upside down in 2020
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sell-sell-sell-from-opening-bell-singapore-market-carnage-as-sti-plunges
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:59) Posted:
I get for 90 cents.
You are overpayin |
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https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/markets-live-investors-stay-wary-20150831-gjbafc.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqazV4hbu8E
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 12:22) Posted:
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sell-sell-sell-from-opening-bell-singapore-market-carnage-as-sti-plunges
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/shares-of-singapore-banks-fall-after-regulator-limits-dividend-payouts.html
https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/parliamentary-replies/2008/reply-to-pqs-on-the-effects-of-global-financial-turmoil-on-singapore
when sg markets in big distressed during 1987,1998,2008 and 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EugpuiJFfKo
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 12:17) Posted:
some may be brought high price but the one i intend to load up more must be avergely at low price liked that in 2020
- https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/results/ocbc-1qfy2024-net-profit-22-q-o-q-5-y-o-y-198-bil?utm_source=pushengage
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https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sell-sell-sell-from-opening-bell-singapore-market-carnage-as-sti-plunges
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/shares-of-singapore-banks-fall-after-regulator-limits-dividend-payouts.html
https://www.mas.gov.sg/news/parliamentary-replies/2008/reply-to-pqs-on-the-effects-of-global-financial-turmoil-on-singapore
when sg markets in big distressed during 1987,1998,2008 and 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EugpuiJFfKo
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 12:17) Posted:
some may be brought high price but the one i intend to load up more must be avergely at low price liked that in 2020
- https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/results/ocbc-1qfy2024-net-profit-22-q-o-q-5-y-o-y-198-bil?utm_source=pushengage
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:59) Posted:
I get for 90 cents.
You are overpayin |
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some may be brought high price but the one i intend to load up more must be avergely at low price liked that in 2020
- https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/results/ocbc-1qfy2024-net-profit-22-q-o-q-5-y-o-y-198-bil?utm_source=pushengage
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:59) Posted:
I get for 90 cents.
You are overpaying
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:58) Posted:
my one cup of coffee in 1965 now cost $1.50 in may 2024 and in 2050 who can tell me the one cup of coffee will cost how much?
Outperforming the market is a difficult task
The challenge is not simply making better investment decisions than the average investor. Given that inflation eats into your returns, the real challenge is making investment decisions that are better than the rate of inflation over the long term.
Absolutely, outperforming the market over the long term is indeed a challenging task. It requires not only making better investment decisions than the average investor but also surpassing the rate of inflation to ensure real growth in purchasing power. Inflation eroding returns is a significant consideration, especially for long-term investors. Therefore, consistently making investment decisions that not only beat market averages but also outpace inflation is a formidable challenge that requires skill, discipline, and often a deep understanding of the market dynamics. It underscores the importance of strategic asset allocation, risk management, and staying informed about economic trends and developments.
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Buy low
Now this is a very simple concept to preach, but very difficult to execute. When prices are high, a lot of investors are buying a lot of stocks as we saw in the heydays of 2007 and early 2008. And when the markets crashed and had reached their multi-year lows in late 2008, there weren&rsquo t any buyers.
I still remember that period post the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy when each and every expert appearing on CNBC or other business channels was pronouncing the death of equities. When the Sensex was at 8,000, these experts were predicting the 5,000 levels.
Such are the times that provide a very good hunting ground for small investors. If you buy quality stocks when no one else is buying, you&rsquo ll get things cheap. Only then will you do a lot better than other investors over the long term.
Absolutely, buying low is a fundamental principle of successful investing. It requires discipline, patience, and the ability to withstand market pessimism. When everyone else is fearful and selling, it' s often the best time to be buying quality assets at discounted prices.
The period you mentioned after the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy was indeed a prime example of market pessimism reaching extreme levels. Many investors were driven by fear and panic, leading to widespread selling and undervaluation of quality stocks.
For those who were able to maintain a long-term perspective and resist the urge to follow the crowd, it presented a significant opportunity to accumulate assets at bargain prices. This contrarian approach, buying when others are selling, is often what separates successful investors from the rest.
While it can be emotionally challenging to go against the prevailing sentiment, history has shown that those who have the courage to do so are often rewarded in the long run. As Warren Buffett famously said, " Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."
Ultimately, buying quality stocks at low prices requires conviction in your investment thesis, a focus on fundamentals rather than short-term fluctuations, and the willingness to stay the course even when others are doubting your decisions.
but i get your one family bank shares when you guys screw them upside down in 2020
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sell-sell-sell-from-opening-bell-singapore-market-carnage-as-sti-plunges
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:59) Posted:
I get for 90 cents.
You are overpaying
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:58) Posted:
my one cup of coffee in 1965 now cost $1.50 in may 2024 and in 2050 who can tell me the one cup of coffee will cost how much?
Outperforming the market is a difficult task
The challenge is not simply making better investment decisions than the average investor. Given that inflation eats into your returns, the real challenge is making investment decisions that are better than the rate of inflation over the long term.
Absolutely, outperforming the market over the long term is indeed a challenging task. It requires not only making better investment decisions than the average investor but also surpassing the rate of inflation to ensure real growth in purchasing power. Inflation eroding returns is a significant consideration, especially for long-term investors. Therefore, consistently making investment decisions that not only beat market averages but also outpace inflation is a formidable challenge that requires skill, discipline, and often a deep understanding of the market dynamics. It underscores the importance of strategic asset allocation, risk management, and staying informed about economic trends and developments.
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I get for 90 cents.
You are overpaying
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:58) Posted:
my one cup of coffee in 1965 now cost $1.50 in may 2024 and in 2050 who can tell me the one cup of coffee will cost how much?
Outperforming the market is a difficult task
The challenge is not simply making better investment decisions than the average investor. Given that inflation eats into your returns, the real challenge is making investment decisions that are better than the rate of inflation over the long term.
Absolutely, outperforming the market over the long term is indeed a challenging task. It requires not only making better investment decisions than the average investor but also surpassing the rate of inflation to ensure real growth in purchasing power. Inflation eroding returns is a significant consideration, especially for long-term investors. Therefore, consistently making investment decisions that not only beat market averages but also outpace inflation is a formidable challenge that requires skill, discipline, and often a deep understanding of the market dynamics. It underscores the importance of strategic asset allocation, risk management, and staying informed about economic trends and developments.
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:56) Posted:
| Good stuff here. Value investin |
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my one cup of coffee in 1965 now cost $1.50 in may 2024 and in 2050 who can tell me the one cup of coffee will cost how much?
Outperforming the market is a difficult task
The challenge is not simply making better investment decisions than the average investor. Given that inflation eats into your returns, the real challenge is making investment decisions that are better than the rate of inflation over the long term.
Absolutely, outperforming the market over the long term is indeed a challenging task. It requires not only making better investment decisions than the average investor but also surpassing the rate of inflation to ensure real growth in purchasing power. Inflation eroding returns is a significant consideration, especially for long-term investors. Therefore, consistently making investment decisions that not only beat market averages but also outpace inflation is a formidable challenge that requires skill, discipline, and often a deep understanding of the market dynamics. It underscores the importance of strategic asset allocation, risk management, and staying informed about economic trends and developments.
MrBear12 ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:56) Posted:
Good stuff here. Value investing
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:50) Posted:
- Buy value, not market trends or the economic outlook.
- Investing based on the intrinsic value of an asset rather than following market trends or economic forecasts can lead to more consistent returns over the long term. When you focus on the underlying value of an investment, you' re essentially looking at the fundamentals of the asset, such as its earnings, cash flow, growth potential, and competitive position in the market. This approach often involves thorough research and analysis to identify undervalued opportunities that have the potential to outperform the market over time. While market trends and economic outlooks can provide useful context, they should not be the sole determinants of investment decisions.
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Good stuff here. Value investing
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:50) Posted:
- Buy value, not market trends or the economic outlook.
- Investing based on the intrinsic value of an asset rather than following market trends or economic forecasts can lead to more consistent returns over the long term. When you focus on the underlying value of an investment, you' re essentially looking at the fundamentals of the asset, such as its earnings, cash flow, growth potential, and competitive position in the market. This approach often involves thorough research and analysis to identify undervalued opportunities that have the potential to outperform the market over time. While market trends and economic outlooks can provide useful context, they should not be the sole determinants of investment decisions.
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:35) Posted:
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and when i confronted october 1987,october 1997 and october2001 and october 2008 and march 2020 to october 2022
If you begin with a prayer, you can think more clearly and make fewer mistakes
Prayer can help you think clearly and make fewer mistakes. It reduces anxiety and stress &ndash two of the biggest killers of investment returns. Reduced stress can help you make better investing decisions.
Starting with a prayer can indeed have various psychological benefits, including reducing anxiety and stress, which can positively impact decision-making processes. When one' s mind is clearer and more focused, they may be better equipped to make sound decisions, including those related to investments. However, it' s essential to recognize that prayer' s effectiveness can vary among individuals, and it' s not a guarantee against making mistakes. It can be a valuable tool for some in promoting a calm and centered state of mind conducive to making thoughtful choices.
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:52) Posted:
when buying sg stocks from 1980 to 2024 during all this time
&ldquo This time it&rsquo s different!&rdquo
How many times have you heard this from a stock market expert or from your friend who has made big money from stocks in a short time?
Countless times! It' s a common refrain in the world of investing, often uttered with a mix of excitement and conviction. People tend to believe that the current situation or their approach somehow sets them apart from historical patterns or risks. But history tends to rhyme, as they say, and while circumstances may change, the fundamental principles of investing usually remain constant.
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:46) Posted:
https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/insurance/sgx-u13/united-overseas-insurance-shares/news/is-it-worth-considering-united-overseas-insurance-limited-sg
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/am-best-affirms-credit-ratings-153400288.html
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when buying sg stocks from 1980 to 2024 during all this time
&ldquo This time it&rsquo s different!&rdquo
How many times have you heard this from a stock market expert or from your friend who has made big money from stocks in a short time?
Countless times! It' s a common refrain in the world of investing, often uttered with a mix of excitement and conviction. People tend to believe that the current situation or their approach somehow sets them apart from historical patterns or risks. But history tends to rhyme, as they say, and while circumstances may change, the fundamental principles of investing usually remain constant.
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:46) Posted:
https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/insurance/sgx-u13/united-overseas-insurance-shares/news/is-it-worth-considering-united-overseas-insurance-limited-sg
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/am-best-affirms-credit-ratings-153400288.html
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:35) Posted:
| https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ocbc-makes-14-billion-offer-to-take-great-eastern-private-at-2560-per-share |
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- Buy value, not market trends or the economic outlook.
- Investing based on the intrinsic value of an asset rather than following market trends or economic forecasts can lead to more consistent returns over the long term. When you focus on the underlying value of an investment, you' re essentially looking at the fundamentals of the asset, such as its earnings, cash flow, growth potential, and competitive position in the market. This approach often involves thorough research and analysis to identify undervalued opportunities that have the potential to outperform the market over time. While market trends and economic outlooks can provide useful context, they should not be the sole determinants of investment decisions.
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:35) Posted:
| https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ocbc-makes-14-billion-offer-to-take-great-eastern-private-at-2560-per-share |
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https://simplywall.st/stocks/sg/insurance/sgx-u13/united-overseas-insurance-shares/news/is-it-worth-considering-united-overseas-insurance-limited-sg
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/am-best-affirms-credit-ratings-153400288.html
chartiskao ( Date: 10-May-2024 11:35) Posted:
| https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ocbc-makes-14-billion-offer-to-take-great-eastern-private-at-2560-per-share |
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https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ocbc-makes-14-billion-offer-to-take-great-eastern-private-at-2560-per-share
