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U are very persistence. why?
w5 tgt 220
- now px hit 265

w5 ext EW 485 w1 425 w2 460 w3 285 w4 350 w5?
w1 60
w2 35
w3 177 dn 295%
w4 65 up 37%
w5 delta=(w1+w3)*61.8%=146 tgt 204

So w5 tgt 204 to 220.
Pls don't long.
This is falling knife.

Forestwood      ( Date: 01-Jun-2018 10:03) Posted: Now what? good to enter? SgYuan      ( Date: 26-Mar-2018 17:10) Posted: Give you another bigger  view. 2012 Oct 31 Dntrend EW EW 865 w1 600 w2 760 w3 380 w4 485 w5?220 w1 265 w2 160, up 60% (typ 61.8% of w1) w3 380, dn 143% (typ 161.8% of w1) w4 105, up 28% (typ 38.2% of w3) w5 265, dn tgt 220 (100% of w1) Current dntrend  EW 485 to 310 start 2017 Jul 31 to now - is only a small portion of main wave w5 - main w5 could be a w5 ext ew, on w1 - w5 ext ew 485 w1 310 w2? w3? w4? w5? Yes you can enter. But you better sell at w2.

 

Now what?
good to enter?

SgYuan      ( Date: 26-Mar-2018 17:10) Posted: Give you another bigger  view. 2012 Oct 31 Dntrend EW EW 865 w1 600 w2 760 w3 380 w4 485 w5?220 w1 265 w2 160, up 60% (typ 61.8% of w1) w3 380, dn 143% (typ 161.8% of w1) w4 105, up 28% (typ 38.2% of w3) w5 265, dn tgt 220 (100% of w1) Current dntrend  EW 485 to 310 start 2017 Jul 31 to now - is only a small portion of main wave w5 - main w5 could be a w5 ext ew, on w1 - w5 ext ew 485 w1 310 w2? w3? w4? w5? Yes you can enter. But you better sell at w2.   Forestwood      ( Date: 26-Mar-2018 15:22) Posted: Do you think it&rsquo s good time to enter

 

Give you another bigger  view.

2012 Oct 31 Dntrend EW
EW 865 w1 600 w2 760 w3 380 w4 485 w5?220
w1 265
w2 160, up 60% (typ 61.8% of w1)
w3 380, dn 143% (typ 161.8% of w1)
w4 105, up 28% (typ 38.2% of w3)
w5 265, dn tgt 220 (100% of w1)

Current dntrend  EW 485 to 310 start 2017 Jul 31 to now
- is only a small portion of main wave w5
- main w5 could be a w5 ext ew, on w1
- w5 ext ew 485 w1 310 w2? w3? w4? w5?

Yes you can enter.
But you better sell at w2.
 

Forestwood      ( Date: 26-Mar-2018 15:22) Posted: Do you think it&rsquo s good time to enter? Forestwood      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 16:21) Posted: Thank you 🙏 🏻   when you think it&rsquo s time to enter, can you post here?

 

Do you think it&rsquo s good time to enter?

Forestwood      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 16:21) Posted: Thank you 🙏 🏻   when you think it&rsquo s time to enter, can you post here?? SgYuan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 15:36) Posted: Px 340 has been holding for 8 days to be precise. Today  frequency is the highest testing the 340. It may break down  any time. No hurry to enter. This stock is slow and steady and yes, you are right, it will take years to reach. I am not full time.

 

Thank you 🙏 🏻  
when you think it&rsquo s time to enter, can you post here??

SgYuan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 15:36) Posted: Px 340 has been holding for 8 days to be precise. Today  frequency is the highest testing the 340. It may break down  any time. No hurry to enter. This stock is slow and steady and yes, you are right, it will take years to reach. I am not full time.

 

Px 340 has been holding for 8 days to be precise.
Today  frequency is the highest testing the 340.
It may break down  any time.
No hurry to enter.

This stock is slow and steady and yes, you are right, it will take years to reach.
I am not full time.

 

Thanks.   Still very deep for me.
hmm... I have been monitoring, the prices like quite stable $0.345-$0.35.
such shares got to wait few years to increase to over a $1?
are you full time analyst?
 

SgYuan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 15:04) Posted: Px now at 340 Now still on wave c and could be a ext EW wave c EW 485 w1 425 w2 460 w3 325 w4 370 w5? w1 delta 60 w2 delta 35 w3 delta 135, drop 225% (very deep drop) w4 delta 45, up 33% of w3 w5 delta 60, tgt 310 If wave c is not a ext EW, then could be a uptrend EW EW 325 w1 370 w2? w3? w4? w5? w1 45 w2 25, tgt 345, drop 61.8% - now px 340, drop 67% - if it continue to drop, high chance it is not a uptrend. - if it is supported and reverse from here, then px bottom, then this is valid w3 70, tgt 410 up 161.8% of w1 w4 25, tgt 385 dn 38.2% of w3 w5 45, tgt 430 So for this case, you will have to see the px movement. Then can decide buy or not. Good Luck. Forestwood      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 14:46) Posted: Now good to buy

 

Px now at 340
Now still on wave c and could be a ext EW
wave c EW 485 w1 425 w2 460 w3 325 w4 370 w5?
w1 delta 60
w2 delta 35
w3 delta 135, drop 225% (very deep drop)
w4 delta 45, up 33% of w3
w5 delta 60, tgt 310

If wave c is not a ext EW, then could be a uptrend EW
EW 325 w1 370 w2? w3? w4? w5?
w1 45
w2 25, tgt 345, drop 61.8%
- now px 340, drop 67%
- if it continue to drop, high chance it is not a uptrend.
- if it is supported and reverse from here, then px bottom, then this is valid
w3 70, tgt 410 up 161.8% of w1
w4 25, tgt 385 dn 38.2% of w3
w5 45, tgt 430

So for this case, you will have to see the px movement.
Then can decide buy or not. Good Luck.

Forestwood      ( Date: 14-Mar-2018 14:46) Posted: Now good to buy? SgYuan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 20:52) Posted: By EW, wave c end. So new EW should start from 375

 

Now good to buy?

SgYuan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 20:52) Posted: By EW, wave c end. So new EW should start from 375. SgYuan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 20:38) Posted: Wave c ended very sharp. See what happened on Monday.

 

Broker' s take: OCBC upgrades Hutchison Port Holdings Trust to ' buy'
TUE, FEB 06, 2018 - 11:35 AM
  

OCBC Investment Research has upgraded its rating on Hutchison Port Holdings Trust (HPH Trust) from " hold" to " buy" , raising its fair value estimate of the counter from US$0.42 to US$0.43.

As at 11.18am on Tuesday, units of HPH Trust (USD) were trading 4 per cent, or 1.5 Singapore cents lower to US$0.36 apiece. Some 10.6 million units changed hands.

In general, OCBC analysts Deborah Ong and Eugene Chua view the group' s results as within expectations.

" FY17 revenue was down 3 per cent year on year to HK$11.6 billion (S$2 billion), or 98.1 per cent of our full-year forecast, with Q4 FY17 revenue down 3.4 per cent year on year at at HK$2.9 billion."

Excluding Hongkong International Terminals' (HIT) rent and rates refund in FY16, FY17' s profit after tax and minority interests was HK$2.2 billion, down 15 per cent year on year. Distribution per unit for FY17 came to 20.60 HK cents, down from 30.60 HK cents the previous year.

" All-in-all, full-year throughput for HPH Trust' s ports increased 8 per cent year on year with Yantian International Container Terminals' (YICT) throughput increasing due to growth in US and transhipment cargoes and Kwai Tsing throughput increasing 5 per cent on the back of stronger transhipment volume," the analysts said.

As announced on Feb 1, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) has reduced the " list price" or reference tariff rate for origin and destination foreign trade containers at Shenzhen - Yantian ports from 1,400 yuan/TEU (twenty-foot equivalent unit) to 980 yuan/TEU.

" While we believe the recent regulatory measures has tangible implications for the industry, we see the impact on HPH Trust as a whole as being significantly muted than what headlines would suggest," the OCBC analysts said.

Based on their research, HPH Trust' s 7 per cent price correction on Feb 2 has been too severe, and represents an " over-reaction" in the market.

" Though YICT contributes about 64 per cent to HPH Trust' s topline, it contributes less to the bottom line as a 50+ per cent owned subsidiary of HPH Trust. Furthermore, we estimate that YICT' s average selling price (ASP) is already about 50 per cent below the new " list price" tariff, which should allow the port operator some buffer in negotiations going forward," the brokers said.

Looking ahead, the analysts forecast single-digit throughput growth in FY18.

" We also believe the bulk of sharp ASP declines is behind us, though we expect mild softness in tariff rates going forward. In our view, the main headwind for HPH Trust is the increase in interest costs we currently assume three rate hikes each for 2018 and 2019."

  

 

- 4Q17 DPU slid 33.1% to HK$0.111, bringing FY17 payout to HK$0.206 (-32.7%).
- For the quarter, revenue slipped 3.4% to HK$2.9b as higher container throughout volumes in HK (+0.9%) and China (+10.6%) were offset by increased concessions and tariffs revisions.
- Accordingly, operating margin slipped 5.5ppt to 27.4%, and was also dragged by an absence of govt subsidy and disposal gain.
- Net profit of HK$237.8m (-38.4%) was also marred by higher financing cost (+19.1%).
 

 

China Port Sector: Minor Impact on Earnings From Port Tariff Cuts... https://sgx.i3investor.com/blogs/sgxstockwarrant/30732.jsp 

 

Think more or less expected - there was some article about China fare tariffs?

 

Result out today dpu 11.1 hkg cts, is this good, can someone interprete

 

By EW, wave c end.
So new EW should start from 375.

SgYuan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 20:38) Posted: Wave c ended very sharp. See what happened on Monday.

 

Wave c ended very sharp.
See what happened on Monday.

 

Sure, play safe is always good sound advice!
End day risk vs reward.
But notice the stock was thrown down in similar fashion from 44 to 38 at around the same period last year Feb 2017?

WL123456      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 12:52) Posted: I am just advocating that it?s better to play safe to buy when the picture is clearer . I am not saying it?s a lousy stock . kangaroo11      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 12:43) Posted: Lol last it dropped to 38 in march 2016, bot some and sold at 46 mths later! Different hand different stroke, depending on each person risk appetite, capital and strategy!

 

I am just advocating that it?s better to play safe to buy when the picture is clearer . I am not saying it?s a lousy stock .

kangaroo11      ( Date: 02-Feb-2018 12:43) Posted: Lol last it dropped to 38 in march 2016, bot some and sold at 46 mths later! Different hand different stroke, depending on each person risk appetite, capital and strategy!

 

Lol last it dropped to 38 in march 2016, bot some and sold at 46 mths later! Different hand different stroke, depending on each person risk appetite, capital and strategy!

 

I will be very careful of insider selling out before results so it will probably be better to just wait for the results to play safe . Do not short though as there can be trading halt anytime due to results .