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invest8
    09-Sep-2021 15:31  
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1.5 hrs to go, then bye bye CL.
Looking at the current weak market sentiment, I think CL unlikely to close near its implied consideration value.
U.S. futures not looking good, and regional markets not doing well.
More than a week to go before hallo CLI.. hence I don' t think it matters that much how CL close today, even more so if one is an investor with a longer-term horizon. 
Good that CL close strongly, otherwise no worries.. what matter more is CLI performance on introductory day and beyond.  wink
 

invest8      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 17:29) Posted:

Interesting.. on CL 2nd last trading day, CICT -1.92% to close at $2.04, CL -1.24%.at $4 ,STI -1.27%.
The countdown continues..  wink

invest8      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 12:13) Posted:

According to CL, CLI implied consideration is $4.102 ..$(0.328+0.951+2.823).
CL and CICT current trading prices $4.04 and $2.04 respectively, 1.5  more trading days (incl. today) for CL.
I think the current lacklustre CL trading is due to the weak CICT performance, in addition to the not-so-favourable market sentiment and the shortists activities some forummers here have stated.
Nevertheless, regardless of CL closing price tomorrow.. I think CLI to perform well on introductory day and trade above the implied consideration. If otherwise, a good opportunity for one to buy and accumulate..  wink


 
 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 14:42  
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I will explain after market closes not while trading 😊

 

stanleytay      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 14:21) Posted:

Actually, why do  you think this will close 4.10 today?

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 12:07) Posted:

I think buying will start 3.30pm 

Should run up post market 

Expecting close 4.10 or higher 

 


 
 
stanleytay
    09-Sep-2021 14:21  
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Actually, why do  you think this will close 4.10 today?

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 12:07) Posted:

I think buying will start 3.30pm 

Should run up post market 

Expecting close 4.10 or higher 

 

lynn89      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 11:37) Posted:

hope to close $4.08 last day


 

 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 14:11  
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Humble and smart - I hold about the same and also since 1987.

Keep holding CapitaLand and also CLI after listing 😊 😊

dlim888      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 13:37) Posted:

I am new to this forum and currently hold a small holding of 125,000 shares , accumulated since the days of DBS Land. I am not selling any shares as I very much like the visionary strong management at Captaland. Also I can see many seniors and experienced shareholders here -looking forward to learn from you guys. 

 
 
hokpin
    09-Sep-2021 13:58  
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Respect earned from being humble. 

dlim888      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 13:37) Posted:

I am new to this forum and currently hold a small holding of 125,000 shares , accumulated since the days of DBS Land. I am not selling any shares as I very much like the visionary strong management at Captaland. Also I can see many seniors and experienced shareholders here -looking forward to learn from you guys. 

 
 
dlim888
    09-Sep-2021 13:37  
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I am new to this forum and currently hold a small holding of 125,000 shares , accumulated since the days of DBS Land. I am not selling any shares as I very much like the visionary strong management at Captaland. Also I can see many seniors and experienced shareholders here -looking forward to learn from you guys. 
 

 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 13:17  
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When CapitaLand closes $4.10 or higher today I hope 
that Spike18 will be strong enough to admit he was wrong 
in his claim that it would be sold down on the last trading day.

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 12:07) Posted:

I think buying will start 3.30pm 

Should run up post market 

Expecting close 4.10 or higher 

 

lynn89      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 11:37) Posted:

hope to close $4.08 last day


 
 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 12:07  
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I think buying will start 3.30pm 

Should run up post market 

Expecting close 4.10 or higher 

 

lynn89      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 11:37) Posted:

hope to close $4.08 last day

 
 
lynn89
    09-Sep-2021 11:37  
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hope to close $4.08 last day
 
 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 10:13  
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Yummy - they took all the $4

Now ready to buy more 😊
 

 
pasttime
    09-Sep-2021 10:12  
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is it last day of capitaland trading today?

 
 
 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 09:13  
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At least $4.10 by today' s close 😊 👍

investshare      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 07:40) Posted:

While I am positive about CLI long term, I am not sure what would be the price of CL today.
While I do not believe what happen in Hyflux will happen in CL, I see nothing wrong for Spike18 to relate his experience in Hyflux.

 
 
josemmm123
    09-Sep-2021 08:10  
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If he wants honest discussion just state the fact , dun have to resort to lying and acting..

But i know this forum is full of positive/negative personal opinion/predictions etc... this is the norm. Everyone has right to do that.

Basically he is lying. He has yet to prove that he bought/sold capitaland and indirectly urging others to sell as he said that if capitaland share price going to tank.

Now he needs to prove he holding Hyflux bond/shares, if not he is lying thru his teeth again.


investshare      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 07:40) Posted:

While I am positive about CLI long term, I am not sure what would be the price of CL today.
While I do not believe what happen in Hyflux will happen in CL, I see nothing wrong for Spike18 to relate his experience in Hyflux.

 
 
josemmm123
    09-Sep-2021 07:59  
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First, I can tell u he is definitely lying. He does not have hyflux. He just using hyflux for the purpose of fear mongering just like how he fake his buying and selling of capitaland to spread fear. 
He pretend to have bought capitaland and then pretend to sold capitaland saying that the price going to collapse, faster sell if not u will lose all ur $$$.

Now he pretending again that he has hyflux to spread fear. 

Thats how pump and dump came into news headline where some syndicate using fake news or using false information to spread fear or spread rumours to execute their pump and dump.


 

investshare      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 07:40) Posted:

While I am positive about CLI long term, I am not sure what would be the price of CL today.
While I do not believe what happen in Hyflux will happen in CL, I see nothing wrong for Spike18 to relate his experience in Hyflux.

 
 
investshare
    09-Sep-2021 07:40  
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While I am positive about CLI long term, I am not sure what would be the price of CL today.
While I do not believe what happen in Hyflux will happen in CL, I see nothing wrong for Spike18 to relate his experience in Hyflux.
 

 
Adrianinsing
    09-Sep-2021 00:42  
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Spike18 - YOU ARE AT RISk OF LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU.

How could you in any way compare CapitaLand to Hyflux?


CapitaLand could easily decide that your statement below warrants court action against you as you are making this statement in the public domain.

This is a serious error and I reiterate that if CapitaLand see that statement they could decide to take legal action against you        

You and I can disagree on price but please never ever resort to such company comparison even if you are trying to make a point about public perception        

CapitaLand is an pragmatic and prudent anc honest, transparent and genuine company and should never be subject to such comparisons.

CapitaLand has always been very prudent and relatively conservative in investments and indeed one   

of the strengths of the company is that it plans ahead prudently and makes very wise    decisions on investments. This is why many of us have had CapitaLand as a core holding and why we will continue to invest long term into CLI - whereas Hyflux by contrast   was a  company that collapsed because it had been borrowing far too heavily to grow and a made a failed foray into power generation in 2016.

For you to even equate the two companies in your efforts to suggest that investment into CapitaLand is in some way equivalent as to investment into Hyflux is outrageous.

CapitaLand is far removed from mistakes made by Hyflux and the investors are very different. Investors into CapitaLand are prudent and circumspect.     


I have no issues against you personally ( thought pity you were not able to prove your buying and selling claims - as otters had requested   ) but this forum is not for such random company comparisons and I genuinely fear for you now - CapitaLand would have a legal case against you should they so decide

Spike18      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 22:09) Posted:

Good man ! I like the conviction.

It brings me no joy that this expected price will not be reached end of trading day tomorrow but it will prove my point that there is no sure thing.  It is not my intention or am I able to influence buying or selling of this share.  If one will read carefully my post, I did not advocate buy or sell but just highlighting the risks lest the unitiated follows the many positive promotions of this stock.  That said, I have nothing against the stock/reit in focus.  But, if the math is so easy, there will be alot of funds buying and that is not happening.  The kicker could only when CLI is included in the MSCI as you have pointed out.  That is, no rise for CLI on first day of trading.  Whether it will eventually rise to 2x or more NAV, no one knows. 

My friends and I have made the mistake in being sold by some investment house the once darling Hyflux perpetual bond.  A sure-win or no lose deal - such high yield.  This is not to say that this is the same but this deal may not be as positive as many believe.

Well, just one more day and we can see.  Again - there will not be any schadenfreud from me.

All the best - either way how the stock closes tomorrow.   

         

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 19:41) Posted:

No change to my CapitaLand forecast. 😊 😊

CapitaLand will be at least $4.10 by close tomorrow 😊 😊


 
 
josemmm123
    09-Sep-2021 00:41  
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He may be a shortist coming here to " trick" ppl into selling.
pump and dump scam.. but just dun know whether he is doing it individually or operating out of a scammer group.

Report him to police and capitaland, see what they have to say.

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 00:38) Posted:

Spike18 - how could you in any way compare CapitaLand to Hyflux?

CapitaLand could easily decide that your statement below warrants court action against you as you are making this statement in the public domain.

This is a serious error and I reiterate that if CapitaLand see that statement they could decide to take legal action against you      

You and I can disagree on price but please never ever resort to such company comparison even if you are trying to make a point about public perception      

CapitaLand is an pragmatic and prudent anc honest, transparent and genuine company and should never be subject to such comparisons.

CapitaLand has always been very prudent and relatively conservative in investments and indeed one 

of the strengths of the company is that it plans ahead prudently and makes very wise  decisions on investments. This is why many of us have had CapitaLand as a core holding and why we will continue to invest long term into CLI - whereas Hyflux by contrast   was a  company that collapsed because it had been borrowing far too heavily to grow and a made a failed foray into power generation in 2016.

For you to even equate the two companies in your efforts to suggest that investment into CapitaLand is in some way equivalent as to investment into Hyflux is outrageous.

CapitaLand is far removed from mistakes made by Hyflux and the investors are very different. Investors into CapitaLand are prudent and circumspect.   


I have no issues against you personally ( thought pity you were not able to prove your buying and selling claims - as otters had requested   ) but this forum is not for such random company comparisons and I genuinely fear for you now - CapitaLand would have a legal case against you should they so decide

Spike18      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 22:09) Posted:

Good man ! I like the conviction.

It brings me no joy that this expected price will not be reached end of trading day tomorrow but it will prove my point that there is no sure thing.  It is not my intention or am I able to influence buying or selling of this share.  If one will read carefully my post, I did not advocate buy or sell but just highlighting the risks lest the unitiated follows the many positive promotions of this stock.  That said, I have nothing against the stock/reit in focus.  But, if the math is so easy, there will be alot of funds buying and that is not happening.  The kicker could only when CLI is included in the MSCI as you have pointed out.  That is, no rise for CLI on first day of trading.  Whether it will eventually rise to 2x or more NAV, no one knows. 

My friends and I have made the mistake in being sold by some investment house the once darling Hyflux perpetual bond.  A sure-win or no lose deal - such high yield.  This is not to say that this is the same but this deal may not be as positive as many believe.

Well, just one more day and we can see.  Again - there will not be any schadenfreud from me.

All the best - either way how the stock closes tomorrow.   

         


 
 
josemmm123
    09-Sep-2021 00:34  
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hi... finally ... ya.. i hope capitaland and the police will come after him

Adrianinsing      ( Date: 09-Sep-2021 00:33) Posted:

Spike18 - how could you in any way compare CapitaLand to Hyflux?

CapitaLand could easily decide that your statement below warrants court action against you as you are making this statement in the public domain.

This is a serious error and I reiterate that if CapitaLand see that statement they could decide to take legal action against you    

You and I can disagree on price but never ever resort to such company comparison even if you are trying to make a point about public perception    

CapitaLand is an honest, transparent and genuine company and should never be subject to such comparisons.CapitaLand has always been very prudent and relatively conservative in investments 
and indeed one of the strengths of the company is that it plans ahead prudently and makes very wise 
decisions on investments. This is why many of us have had CapitaLand as a core holding and why we will continue to invest long term into CLI - whereas Hyflux by contrast   was a  company that collapsed because it had been borrowing far too heavily to grow and a made a failed foray into power generation in 2016. For you ti even equate the two companies in your efforts to suggest that investment into CapitaLand is in some way equivalent as to investment into Hyflux is outrageous. CapitaLand is far removed from mistakes made by Hyflux and the investors are very different. Investors into CapitaLand are prudent and circumspect. 

I have no issues against you personally ( thought pity you were not able to prove your buying and selling claims - as otters had requested   ) but this forum is not for such random company comparisons and I genuinely fear for you now - CapitaLand would have a legal case against you should they so decide.

Spike18      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021:29) Posted:

Good man ! I like the conviction.

It brings me no joy that this expected price will not be reached end of trading day tomorrow but it will prove my point that there is no sure thing.  It is not my intention or am I able to influence buying or selling of this share.  If one will read carefully my post, I did not advocate buy or sell but just highlighting the risks lest the unitiated follows the many positive promotions of this stock.  That said, I have nothing against the stock/reit in focus.  But, if the math is so easy, there will be alot of funds buying and that is not happening.  The kicker could only when CLI is included in the MSCI as you have pointed out.  That is, no rise for CLI on first day of trading.  Whether it will eventually rise to 2x or more NAV, no one knows. 

My friends and I have made the mistake in being sold by some investment house the once darling Hyflux perpetual bond.  A sure-win or no lose deal - such high yield.  This is not to say that this is the same but this deal may not be as positive as many believe.

Well, just one more day and we can see.  Again - there will not be any schadenfreud from me.

All the best - either way how the stock closes tomorrow.   

         


 
 
Spike18
    08-Sep-2021 23:15  
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A lout ! An extremely bitter person who must have a very hard childhood as well as bad life experiences.  I see the images of abused dogs at the SPCA when I read the postings.  Very sad ...

josemmm123      ( Date: 08-Sep-2021 22:40) Posted:

To Spike18 If u want to offer opposing views of capitaland just do so. Dun  have to resort to lying and making use of kindness of other users like Adrian. And back up ur claims with proof, screen captures and analyst reports or chart.

Comeon... we welcome constructive views and opinions, dun keep " acting" and " lying" ....

 
 
josemmm123
    08-Sep-2021 22:40  
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To Spike18 If u want to offer opposing views of capitaland just do so. Dun  have to resort to lying and making use of kindness of other users like Adrian. And back up ur claims with proof, screen captures and analyst reports or chart.

Comeon... we welcome constructive views and opinions, dun keep " acting" and " lying" ....
 
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