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spursfan
    02-Feb-2021 13:30  
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yes no. of shares reduced but value remain the same.

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:28) Posted:

Actually, all current shares will be converted by 50:1, which means there shouldn' t be any effect since it' s actually net zero. It' s not like company buy back shares or issue rights/warrants that reduce or increase market floats. Is my understand correct?

spursfan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:23) Posted:

less floats share price can move faster either way eg zhongxin fruits , eindex etc  tlheir price can double within days. after consol. the amount of shares is 50 times lesser. small floats can be judge at the buy/sell q where the qty is in the hundreds or less lots and not in thousands lots


 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 13:28  
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Actually, all current shares will be converted by 50:1, which means there shouldn' t be any effect since it' s actually net zero. It' s not like company buy back shares or issue rights/warrants that reduce or increase market floats. Is my understand correct?

spursfan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:23) Posted:

less floats share price can move faster either way eg zhongxin fruits , eindex etc  tlheir price can double within days. after consol. the amount of shares is 50 times lesser. small floats can be judge at the buy/sell q where the qty is in the hundreds or less lots and not in thousands lots

 
 
Smarty
    02-Feb-2021 13:27  
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That' s true. Now sell vol [email protected] becomes 500 post consolidation which is less daunting 

spursfan      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:23) Posted:

less floats share price can move faster either way eg zhongxin fruits , eindex etc  tlheir price can double within days. after consol. the amount of shares is 50 times lesser. small floats can be judge at the buy/sell q where the qty is in the hundreds or less lots and not in thousands lots

 

 
spursfan
    02-Feb-2021 13:23  
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less floats share price can move faster either way eg zhongxin fruits , eindex etc  tlheir price can double within days. after consol. the amount of shares is 50 times lesser. small floats can be judge at the buy/sell q where the qty is in the hundreds or less lots and not in thousands lots
 
 
look@bright
    02-Feb-2021 13:20  
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not sure too bro, but should be more room to go up because this is E Payment.

Citicode RTO is 500:1  at 0.001 with Livingstone and post consolidated shares already 50c but Livingstone is Healthcare, difference valuation.

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:16) Posted:

yes it means less shares in market, more control by the management.
so what is the market standard of ' more' and ' less' , after 50/1 conversion where does it fall into?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:14) Posted:

lesser shares to clear up and down, if u minus away SSH shares then even lesser in open market


 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 13:16  
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yes it means less shares in market, more control by the management.
so what is the market standard of ' more' and ' less' , after 50/1 conversion where does it fall into?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:14) Posted:

lesser shares to clear up and down, if u minus away SSH shares then even lesser in open market.

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:12) Posted:

We will find out after 18 Feb :)
Btw what will be the impact between more floats and less floats


 

 
look@bright
    02-Feb-2021 13:14  
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lesser shares to clear up and down, if u minus away SSH shares then even lesser in open market.

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:12) Posted:

We will find out after 18 Feb :)
Btw what will be the impact between more floats and less floats?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 12:39) Posted:

yup that' s right that was when RTO was first annouced in 2017.  After 3 years and Convid 19, it changes the market perspective and valuation of E-Payment so i guess that' s the reason. Anw like Ligaya mentioned, there will be smaller float after the share consolidation which can be good or bad


 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 13:12  
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We will find out after 18 Feb :)
Btw what will be the impact between more floats and less floats?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 12:39) Posted:

yup that' s right that was when RTO was first annouced in 2017.  After 3 years and Convid 19, it changes the market perspective and valuation of E-Payment so i guess that' s the reason. Anw like Ligaya mentioned, there will be smaller float after the share consolidation which can be good or bad.

Smarty      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 12:29) Posted:

Originally was supposed to be 20-1 share consolidation 
why they changed the ratio ?
is it because to meet SGX' s requirement for Catalist stock ?min 0.50?


 
 
Smarty
    02-Feb-2021 13:07  
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I hope I am wrong but expect share price to be moving in tight range .01-.012 leading up to share consolidation but miracle can happen :)
 
 
 
look@bright
    02-Feb-2021 13:06  
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have to see the 16m placement shares is placed to who and who are subscribers

Smarty      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 13:03) Posted:

Arti' s transformation from old economy stock to tech stock is positive development 
somehow the 50-1 share consolidation seems a dampener 


 

 

 
Smarty
    02-Feb-2021 13:03  
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Arti' s transformation from old economy stock to tech stock is positive development 
somehow the 50-1 share consolidation seems a dampener 


 
 
 
Jumbohippo
    02-Feb-2021 13:00  
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Seeking everyones' unbiased opinions, is this a bad sign for ARTI now?
 
 
look@bright
    02-Feb-2021 12:39  
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yup that' s right that was when RTO was first annouced in 2017.  After 3 years and Convid 19, it changes the market perspective and valuation of E-Payment so i guess that' s the reason. Anw like Ligaya mentioned, there will be smaller float after the share consolidation which can be good or bad.

Smarty      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 12:29) Posted:

Originally was supposed to be 20-1 share consolidation 
why they changed the ratio ?
is it because to meet SGX' s requirement for Catalist stock ?min 0.50?

 
 
Smarty
    02-Feb-2021 12:29  
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Originally was supposed to be 20-1 share consolidation 
why they changed the ratio ?
is it because to meet SGX' s requirement for Catalist stock ?min 0.50?
 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 12:24  
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Yalor. One wonder why mcp want to do this rto

Ligaya      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 12:04) Posted:

yes be patient with the post-rto mgmt team....
after 50-1 consolidation float also becomes smaller and either way up or down is 50 pip
not surprising many just went in for a punt without knowledge of consolidation 

churnw      ( Date: 29-Jan-2021 19:33) Posted:

Be patient....


 

 
Ligaya
    02-Feb-2021 12:04  
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yes be patient with the post-rto mgmt team....
after 50-1 consolidation float also becomes smaller and either way up or down is 50 pip
not surprising many just went in for a punt without knowledge of consolidation 

churnw      ( Date: 29-Jan-2021 19:33) Posted:

Be patient....

Ligaya      ( Date: 29-Jan-2021 16:25) Posted:

market sentiment getting volatile due to weak futures and friday effect. The one massive sell down churning so far scare off one hero who ran at 0.1,  may expect more weak hands to be affected by the buy/sell queues and flushed.

artivision mgmt history not credible but this incoming post rto mcp team is different, cross border realtime and mobile transactions both a covid-proof and post-covid fintech show,  dyodd!


 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 11:45  
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Good sharing.
I hope both of you are not vested in Arti, thus no need to be stress over the future after consolidation.

ysh2006      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 11:32) Posted:

Yes many coy after share huge consolidation become zero ...eg NSR Merage energy Noble Youzoo e2i & Linz energy...

Smarty      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 10:45) Posted:

Thought the RTO would give Arti a lease of life but the huge share consolidation seems to negate that effect


 
 
look@bright
    02-Feb-2021 11:34  
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E-payments is rising business, i mean no ideal why some IPO or RTO counters are still doing sunset businesses

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 11:29) Posted:

Er.... whose is doing sunset business? Arti (cannot be bah)?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 11:09) Posted:

RTO or IPO should be relevant business but i don' t know why they are still trying to do wonder with sunset businesse


 
 
ysh2006
    02-Feb-2021 11:32  
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Yes many coy after share huge consolidation become zero ...eg NSR Merage energy Noble Youzoo e2i & Linz energy...

Smarty      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 10:45) Posted:

Thought the RTO would give Arti a lease of life but the huge share consolidation seems to negate that effect

 
 
Skynet4321
    02-Feb-2021 11:29  
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Er.... whose is doing sunset business? Arti (cannot be bah)?

look@bright      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 11:09) Posted:

RTO or IPO should be relevant business but i don' t know why they are still trying to do wonder with sunset businesses

Skynet4321      ( Date: 02-Feb-2021 11:04) Posted:

Actually this is the only RTO that is successful.
So many fell flat, eg: QT Vascular, and MMP


 
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