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wehuattogether88
    21-Oct-2024 14:06  
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This will not happen because it is SGX here.

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 14:00) Posted:

What will happen to share price if IFA price is 800 to 1000 ???

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:59) Posted:

Any news on IFA price that is much higher than 670, may trigger a Tsunami to buy up ??


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 14:00  
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What will happen to share price if IFA price is 800 to 1000 ???

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:59) Posted:

Any news on IFA price that is much higher than 670, may trigger a Tsunami to buy up ???

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:55) Posted:

Starting to move up, no more 660 !!!


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 13:59  
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Any news on IFA price that is much higher than 670, may trigger a Tsunami to buy up ???

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:55) Posted:

Starting to move up, no more 660 !!!

 

 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 13:55  
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Starting to move up, no more 660 !!!
 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 13:51  
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Estate has not issued any more statement after HW revised its offer price to 670. Estate also is waiting for IFA before saying anything. 

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:42) Posted:

There is perceived calmness and inactivity while power dynamics are at work. Could be moratorium while powers are in deep nego. At the same time others wait for IFA and CCCS ruling before making further judgement


Winsmallsmall      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:14) Posted:

puzzled by HW, market now about 38m shares from 66 to 67 dont want to buy


 
 
Giant8888
    21-Oct-2024 13:42  
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There is perceived calmness and inactivity while power dynamics are at work. Could be moratorium while powers are in deep nego. At the same time others wait for IFA and CCCS ruling before making further judgement


Winsmallsmall      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 13:14) Posted:

puzzled by HW, market now about 38m shares from 66 to 67 dont want to buy

 

 
Winsmallsmall
    21-Oct-2024 13:14  
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puzzled by HW, market now about 38m shares from 66 to 67 dont want to buy
 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 11:40  
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Can check their track records, which one they normally do. But nothing is fixed as they can play according to the situations. 

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 11:27) Posted:

Role of MS is a mystery. They could be holding Trump card or simply arbitrage player. I believe more to it. Suspense holds dear

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 11:23) Posted:

MS seems to be very quiet after getting 7%, hope to see MS to do something i.e. buy up more so that HW will get kancheong a bit !!! Unless MS is a concert party of HW ??? Retailers have no one to turn to except Estate for better offer price from HW with control premium !!


 
 
Giant8888
    21-Oct-2024 11:27  
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Role of MS is a mystery. They could be holding Trump card or simply arbitrage player. I believe more to it. Suspense holds dear

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 11:23) Posted:

MS seems to be very quiet after getting 7%, hope to see MS to do something i.e. buy up more so that HW will get kancheong a bit !!! Unless MS is a concert party of HW ??? Retailers have no one to turn to except Estate for better offer price from HW with control premium !!!

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 11:01) Posted:

Yes HW probably think they don't need Estate 35% and their high ask and try their luck in the open markett and with weak retail investors. It is high stake game for both titans with their own agenda. We just wait for their undercurrent fight to pan out and hopefully reap MSW price. I will tend to follow Estate move


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 11:23  
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MS seems to be very quiet after getting 7%, hope to see MS to do something i.e. buy up more so that HW will get kancheong a bit !!! Unless MS is a concert party of HW ??? Retailers have no one to turn to except Estate for better offer price from HW with control premium !!!

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 11:01) Posted:

Yes HW probably think they don't need Estate 35% and their high ask and try their luck in the open markett and with weak retail investors. It is high stake game for both titans with their own agenda. We just wait for their undercurrent fight to pan out and hopefully reap MSW price. I will tend to follow Estate move.

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:47) Posted:

So far, HW has not published the acceptance rate, seems like the acceptance rate could be low, that is why it is not using the acceptance rate to encourage retailers and SSH to throw to it. HW bought from the open market and this showed that it has no confidence that it will get 50.1% just based on the acceptance, but rather needs to get the shares from the open market as well. 


 

 
Giant8888
    21-Oct-2024 11:01  
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Yes HW probably think they don't need Estate 35% and their high ask and try their luck in the open markett and with weak retail investors. It is high stake game for both titans with their own agenda. We just wait for their undercurrent fight to pan out and hopefully reap MSW price. I will tend to follow Estate move.

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:47) Posted:

So far, HW has not published the acceptance rate, seems like the acceptance rate could be low, that is why it is not using the acceptance rate to encourage retailers and SSH to throw to it. HW bought from the open market and this showed that it has no confidence that it will get 50.1% just based on the acceptance, but rather needs to get the shares from the open market as well. 

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:30) Posted:

IFA may provide fair and reasonable valuation of the company and state what they feel is fair offer to all investors but what Estate is asking is "control premium" which is their price for giving up majority in the company. It could be subjective and personal to the Estate as it is their baby and founder legacy. No IFA can answer for that. It t is really up to the Estate but I believe HW has the number from the Estate. But HW just want to test their luck in the open market to defy Estate's ask. So let's see whether HW can pull off


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 10:54  
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HW will scoop up all the 665 if there is anyone trying to buy up all the 660 in one shot !!! LOL
 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 10:47  
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So far, HW has not published the acceptance rate, seems like the acceptance rate could be low, that is why it is not using the acceptance rate to encourage retailers and SSH to throw to it. HW bought from the open market and this showed that it has no confidence that it will get 50.1% just based on the acceptance, but rather needs to get the shares from the open market as well. 

Giant8888      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:30) Posted:

IFA may provide fair and reasonable valuation of the company and state what they feel is fair offer to all investors but what Estate is asking is "control premium" which is their price for giving up majority in the company. It could be subjective and personal to the Estate as it is their baby and founder legacy. No IFA can answer for that. It t is really up to the Estate but I believe HW has the number from the Estate. But HW just want to test their luck in the open market to defy Estate's ask. So let's see whether HW can pull off.

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:24) Posted:

If IFA price is lower than HW offer price = Very unlikely, just accept HW offer price of 670 or to hold and wait for another party to counter offer !!!

If IFA price is higher than HW offer price = Very likely, hold and wait for HW or another party to counter offer with the IFA' s price or even higher price !!! 

Nothing to lose to buy at 655/660 (not on contra) !!


 
 
Giant8888
    21-Oct-2024 10:30  
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IFA may provide fair and reasonable valuation of the company and state what they feel is fair offer to all investors but what Estate is asking is "control premium" which is their price for giving up majority in the company. It could be subjective and personal to the Estate as it is their baby and founder legacy. No IFA can answer for that. It t is really up to the Estate but I believe HW has the number from the Estate. But HW just want to test their luck in the open market to defy Estate's ask. So let's see whether HW can pull off.

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:24) Posted:

If IFA price is lower than HW offer price = Very unlikely, just accept HW offer price of 670 or to hold and wait for another party to counter offer !!!

If IFA price is higher than HW offer price = Very likely, hold and wait for HW or another party to counter offer with the IFA' s price or even higher price !!! 

Nothing to lose to buy at 655/660 (not on contra) !!!

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:16) Posted:

Not Estate, already sold and converted warrants to mother shares.

Could be HW and kakis trying to scare weak holders and then scoop up all until 670 !!


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 10:26  
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IFA report could be released earlier than 23 Oct, but last day is 23 Oct. 

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:24) Posted:

If IFA price is lower than HW offer price = Very unlikely, just accept HW offer price of 670 or to hold and wait for another party to counter offer !!!

If IFA price is higher than HW offer price = Very likely, hold and wait for HW or another party to counter offer with the IFA' s price or even higher price !!! 

Nothing to lose to buy at 655/660 (not on contra) !!!

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:16) Posted:

Not Estate, already sold and converted warrants to mother shares.

Could be HW and kakis trying to scare weak holders and then scoop up all until 670 !!


 

 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 10:24  
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If IFA price is lower than HW offer price = Very unlikely, just accept HW offer price of 670 or to hold and wait for another party to counter offer !!!

If IFA price is higher than HW offer price = Very likely, hold and wait for HW or another party to counter offer with the IFA' s price or even higher price !!! 

Nothing to lose to buy at 655/660 (not on contra) !!!

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:16) Posted:

Not Estate, already sold and converted warrants to mother shares.

Could be HW and kakis trying to scare weak holders and then scoop up all until 670 !!!

bernardc      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:05) Posted:

Who is selling?? Estate again?


 
 
bernardc
    21-Oct-2024 10:20  
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Seems likely...left hand to right hand shenigan...???

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:16) Posted:

Not Estate, already sold and converted warrants to mother shares.

Could be HW and kakis trying to scare weak holders and then scoop up all until 670 !!!

bernardc      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:05) Posted:

Who is selling?? Estate again?


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 10:16  
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Not Estate, already sold and converted warrants to mother shares.

Could be HW and kakis trying to scare weak holders and then scoop up all until 670 !!!

bernardc      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 10:05) Posted:

Who is selling?? Estate again??

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 09:20) Posted:

DM can justify for higher share price with so many catalysts !!


 
 
bernardc
    21-Oct-2024 10:05  
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Who is selling?? Estate again??

Eagle88      ( Date: 21-Oct-2024 09:20) Posted:

DM can justify for higher share price with so many catalysts !!!

Eagle88      ( Date: 20-Oct-2024 23:59) Posted:

My take is IFA fair price should be at least 800 or above !!! Too many catalysts for DM to justify for higher share price !!


 
 
Eagle88
    21-Oct-2024 09:20  
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DM can justify for higher share price with so many catalysts !!!

Eagle88      ( Date: 20-Oct-2024 23:59) Posted:

My take is IFA fair price should be at least 800 or above !!! Too many catalysts for DM to justify for higher share price !!!

stlimst      ( Date: 20-Oct-2024 19:47) Posted:

As mentioned, I would wait to see what the Independent Fianancial Advisor (IFA) has to say about the valuation and offer by HW.
Report should be out by 23 Oct, Wednesday


 
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