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Just4win
    24-Mar-2017 14:33  
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Effectively about 8% pa , consider you will get total  9% for 13 months, assuming if this is redeemed by apr 18

ehclim      ( Date: 24-Mar-2017 13:17) Posted:



3% only. They pay half yearly but total you get 9% if they call in next April. Good returns.

john_ric      ( Date: 24-Mar-2017 12:14) Posted:



now CD.  6% coming into pocket.

 


 
 
ehclim
    24-Mar-2017 13:17  
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3% only. They pay half yearly but total you get 9% if they call in next April. Good returns.

john_ric      ( Date: 24-Mar-2017 12:14) Posted:



now CD.  6% coming into pocket.

 

john_ric      ( Date: 03-Feb-2017 11:35) Posted:



 

going bak to 100 and above.

 


 
 
john_ric
    24-Mar-2017 12:14  
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now CD.  6% coming into pocket.

 

john_ric      ( Date: 03-Feb-2017 11:35) Posted:



 

going bak to 100 and above.

 

 

 
john_ric
    03-Feb-2017 11:35  
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going bak to 100 and above.

 
 
 
pinkowl
    09-Dec-2016 08:40  
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Partial redemption. Still left $50+ million. 

spore1      ( Date: 07-Dec-2016 18:24) Posted:



Early redemption of 300m 5.75% bond . A boost of confidence. 

 
 
spore1
    09-Dec-2016 08:16  
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With oil price stabilising around $50 and may even rise to $60 think their profits may also rises further.

Everywhere needs Water . Think confident will be back again once their revenue start to Rise .
 

 
sun233
    09-Dec-2016 07:53  
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EXCERPT FROM BUSINESS TIMES TODAY..........

O& M lessons for investors in high-yield perpetuals

Important to understand and be comfortable with the numbers before taking the plunge


DEBT-laden offshore and marine (O& M) companies that issued high-yield bonds have recently garnered unwanted attention. Less than half a year after offshore engineering firm Swiber Holdings went into judicial management, offshore vessel owner Swissco Holdings said in November that it would suffer the same fate after its lenders rejected debt restructuring proposals, from both the firm and an unnamed Chinese investor. Swissco and its subsidiary Swissco Offshore (Pte) Ltd have since filed for judicial management.

Other companies in the sector have also already defaulted on interest payments and appear to be teetering on the brink, with not much except the continued benevolence of their bankers to avert a collapse. It is probably safe to assume that when investors put money into those O& M corporate bonds, they likely did not consider such an outcome - or could have mentally assigned it the same odds that most polls had given Donald Trump - now United States President-elect - on the eve of the presidential election.

With those debt defaults in mind, it might probably be a good time for investors in recently issued high-yield perpetual securities to re-evaluate the possible worst-case scenarios for those investments.

One example that may be interesting to look at is water-treatment firm Hyflux, which issued a retail offering of perpetual bonds in May 2016 with a coupon rate of 6 per cent. Unlike plain vanilla bonds, perpetuals are hybrid bonds with no fixed maturity that may allow coupon payments to be deferred. Hyflux raised S$500 million from selling perpetuals in May, a larger amount than its then market value of S$440 million. The group' s market value has since fallen to about S$380 million.


When it launched its perpetuals offering this year, it said a major part of the proceeds would be used to repay S$100 million of its outstanding notes due this year that it had issued under a S$1.5 billion multi-currency debt issuance programme as well as S$175 million in perpetual securities. It had sold S$175 million of perpetual securities in 2014 at 4.8 per cent, callable in 2016. Hyflux' s perpetuals traded at 89.8 Singapore cents as at Dec 8.
From an earnings growth standpoint, Hyflux does not show a clear downward pattern. Net profit fell in 2013, rose in 2014, then fell again in 2015. But its free cash flow trend presents a different picture. The flow was negative every quarter except one since the start of 2012, according to data from financial research website YCharts. Though negative free cash flow can indicate that a company has been making substantial capital expenditures that may pay off in future, it can also be a sign the company is burning more cash than it can collect.


Hyflux has substantial net debt over equity. Its net gearing ratio was 0.56 as at end-2012, ballooned to 1.15 at end-2013, shrank back down to 0.51 at end-2014 and rose to 0.85 at end-2015. That was nowhere near as high as Swiber' s, which had net gearing of 1.59 as at end-2015 and 1.57 as at end-March this year before it collapsed. Swissco, however, had a net gearing of 0.78 as at June 30 this year. Observers have also pointed out that the 6 per cent coupon for Hyflux' s perpetuals is above its most recent figures for return on equity (ROE), which gauges how well a frim can generate profit from its shareholders' investments.

The group' s ROE was 7.1 per cent in 2012, but that dropped to 5.0 per cent in 2013, slid further to 4.3 per cent in 2014 and was even lower at 3.2 per cent for 2015, as shown by the financial history on its website. The figures were based on equity figures that included its cumulative preference shares and perpetual capital securities. The 2015 ROE was significantly lower than the 6 per cent coupon on its perpetuals.

Of course, the combination of heavy debt and negative free cash flow does not mean a company will go the way of Swiber and Swissco. Hyflux is also in a completely different industry.

Perhaps less calamitously, Swiber' s and Swissco' s bond investors mostly appear to be private banks' customers, who probably are well-heeled, sophisticated and less likely to lose all their savings if those companies default. Some may argue that high-yield perpetuals ought not to be offered to mom-and-pop investors at all.

But for savvy retail investors who have considered Hyflux' s financials before buying the perpetuals and are comfortable with the risk, high-yield perpetuals still offer the chance for them to make well-informed bets with potentially handsome rewards, and there is no reason to take away that option from them. For the rest, it is at least not too late to take another look at the numbers to make sure they are comfortable with them.
 
 
Sporeguy
    07-Dec-2016 21:44  
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Notice Of Redemption To Holders Of The S$300,000,000 5.75 Per Cent. Perpetual Capital Securities (ISIN: SG6OE1000007) (The " Capital Securities" ) Of Hyflux Ltd (The " Company" )

Dec 07, 2016


 
 
 
spore1
    07-Dec-2016 18:24  
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Early redemption of 300m 5.75% bond . A boost of confidence. 
 
 
mepkoh
    05-Dec-2016 15:12  
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one opf the reason for the latest preference shares at $1..is to redemm the $100 pref shares..

so company has a wind fall by buying at $92...

Sporeguy      ( Date: 05-Dec-2016 14:54) Posted:



The Company has the option to redeem this tranche on 25 April 2018 and interest will step up to 8% if it is not redeemed.

So it will be advantage to the company to buy back from market at $92crather than redeeming at $100.

Can they use the Excess money from PCS tranche to buy back CPS from market? Cheaper than to redeem.

 

 
Sporeguy
    05-Dec-2016 14:54  
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The Company has the option to redeem this tranche on 25 April 2018 and interest will step up to 8% if it is not redeemed.

So it will be advantage to the company to buy back from market at $92crather than redeeming at $100.

Can they use the Excess money from PCS tranche to buy back CPS from market? Cheaper than to redeem.
 
 
mepkoh
    05-Dec-2016 13:41  
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prefernce ..redeemable every 5 years or top up %..

read the prospectus to have full informations

pnuklis      ( Date: 05-Dec-2016 13:11) Posted:



Guys there is a difference between the bonds that are traded in SGX and those traded in Bonds Supermart(BS). SGX listed bonds and sold in small denominations of 100 in face value (like cordlife) where as the ones in BS are in multiple of 250,000./. The market forces decides SGX listed bonds price on their credit worthyness. For example DBS 4.7% bonds are traded around 106 looking in to confidence of DBS able to keep their commitments of interest and principle payment. In case of Cordlife case they are traded around 92 because that is the confidence of the market regarding their ability to pay interest and principle. You are free to sell at 92 to cut your loss or hope to get interest paid and full principle if they are not perpetual bonds. If the company has cash they can buy their bonds at lower price but again if they are cash rich then their bonds will be traded above 100. You got to weigh your situation of bond price traded and companies current situation and ability for it to honour it' s coomitment.

 
 
pnuklis
    05-Dec-2016 13:11  
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Guys there is a difference between the bonds that are traded in SGX and those traded in Bonds Supermart(BS). SGX listed bonds and sold in small denominations of 100 in face value (like cordlife) where as the ones in BS are in multiple of 250,000./. The market forces decides SGX listed bonds price on their credit worthyness. For example DBS 4.7% bonds are traded around 106 looking in to confidence of DBS able to keep their commitments of interest and principle payment. In case of Cordlife case they are traded around 92 because that is the confidence of the market regarding their ability to pay interest and principle. You are free to sell at 92 to cut your loss or hope to get interest paid and full principle if they are not perpetual bonds. If the company has cash they can buy their bonds at lower price but again if they are cash rich then their bonds will be traded above 100. You got to weigh your situation of bond price traded and companies current situation and ability for it to honour it' s coomitment.
 
 
sun233
    05-Dec-2016 13:06  
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As usual better to check wth broker.........

 

What are ' Preference Shares'



Preference shares, more commonly referred to as  preferred stock, are shares of a company&rsquo s stock with dividends that are paid out to shareholders before common  stock dividends  are issued. If the company enters  bankruptcy, the shareholders with preferred stock are entitled to be paid from company assets first. Most preference shares have a fixed dividend, while common stocks generally do not. Preferred stock shareholders also typically do not hold any  voting rights, but  common shareholders  usually do.

BREAKING DOWN ' Preference Shares'

Types of Preference Shares



There are four types of preference shares:

Cumulative preferred stock  includes a provision that requires the company to pay preferred shareholders all dividends, including those that were omitted in the past, before the common shareholders are able to receive their dividend payments.

Non-cumulative preferred stock does not issue any omitted or  unpaid dividends. If the company chooses not to pay dividends in any given year, the shareholders of the non-cumulative preferred stock have no right or power to claim such forgone dividends at any time in the future.

Participating preferred stock  provides its shareholders with the right to be paid dividends in an amount equal to the generally specified rate of  preferred dividends  plus an additional dividend based on a predetermined condition. This additional dividend is typically designed to be paid out only if the amount of dividends received by common shareholders is greater than a predetermined per-share amount. If the company is liquidated, participating preferred shareholders may also have the right to be paid back the purchasing price of the stock as well as a  pro-rata  share of remaining proceeds received by common shareholders.

Convertible preferred stock  includes an option that allows shareholders to convert their preferred shares into a set number of  common shares, generally any time after a pre-established date. Under normal circumstances, convertible preferred shares are exchanged in this way at the shareholder' s request. However, a company may have a provision on such shares that allows the shareholders or the issuer to force the issue. How valuable convertible common stocks are is based, ultimately, on how well the  common stock  performs.

Significance to Investors



Preference shares are an optimal alternative for risk-averse equity investors. Preference shares are typically less volatile than common shares and offer investors a steadier flow of dividends. Also, preference shares are usually callable the issuer of the shares can redeem them at any time, providing investors with more options than common shares.

ShowMeMoneyp      ( Date: 05-Dec-2016 11:38) Posted:



This is not a bond.   As far as I understand, Hyflux is not obliged to ' redeem' it at par value at any specific time.  

Just like any ordinary shares, Hyflux may buy from the market and cancel them thereby saving the dividend if the company has the money to do so.

That will be possible if the credit worthiness improved and it can sell bond/debt at say 5%.   It will then save financial cost.

 

 
 
ShowMeMoneyp
    05-Dec-2016 11:38  
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This is not a bond.   As far as I understand, Hyflux is not obliged to ' redeem' it at par value at any specific time.  

Just like any ordinary shares, Hyflux may buy from the market and cancel them thereby saving the dividend if the company has the money to do so.

That will be possible if the credit worthiness improved and it can sell bond/debt at say 5%.   It will then save financial cost.

 
 

 
sun233
    05-Dec-2016 06:57  
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Yes you are right. The people who sold off at a low price may have expected it to rise after listing or they could be in need of cash and had to sell low. Not vested............not yet.

Qanghoo      ( Date: 04-Dec-2016 09:43) Posted:



I though if u buy from mkt at 92, they will still redeem at 1SGD?  In the meantime, they pay 6% based on 1, so yield, excluding commissions, is 6.5%.

Sporeguy      ( Date: 04-Dec-2016 08:34) Posted:



At 92c Vs redeem price of $1, would it more productive to buy back from the market than redeem?


 
 
Qanghoo
    04-Dec-2016 09:43  
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I though if u buy from mkt at 92, they will still redeem at 1SGD?  In the meantime, they pay 6% based on 1, so yield, excluding commissions, is 6.5%.

Sporeguy      ( Date: 04-Dec-2016 08:34) Posted:



At 92c Vs redeem price of $1, would it more productive to buy back from the market than redeem?

Qanghoo      ( Date: 24-Oct-2016 16:01) Posted:



There was an article which our  Brother Sun223 posted in the Dyna Mac thread a few days ago  which makes very interesting reading.  I' ve ' plagiarised' it here.  Hope Brother Sun doesn' t mind.  It gives some insight as to why even bonds of coys doing well are being sold down to considerably below par. 

 

OCT 21, 20165:50 AM


Singapore

CORDLIFE Group has asked bondholders to a meeting early next month to get their approval to redeem their debt ahead of maturity, an event which has received little publicity amid the chatter on bond defaults.

In fact there' s the danger of collateral damage threatening bonds issued by companies with strong balance sheets with some of the prices of these bonds falling to distressed levels.

Year to date (Oct 18) S$17.4 billion worth of bonds have been redeemed, including a chunk redeemed ahead of their scheduled maturity, compared with S$785 million of bonds which have defaulted, restructured or are in the process of restructuring.


The chorus of bad news hogging the spotlight is lumping companies with strong balance sheets with those flush with cash, said Terence Lin, assistant director of bonds and portfolio management at fund researcher iFast.

" Some are probably still fine but the general sentiment doesn' t make them look good good companies/bad companies are being sold off," said Mr Lin.

The price of Dyna-Mac bonds fell to 92 cents on the dollar before the company announced on September 8 it would get bondholders' approval to redeem the bonds ahead of its August 1 2017 scheduled maturity date.

Although Dyna-Mac operates in the troubled offshore and marine space, it had a net cash position end-June 2016, noted Mr Lin.

Bonds are sold at 100 par.

" There was a sell-off in Singdollar bonds after August, it was collateral damage," he said, referring to Dyna-Mac' s price which had fallen to distressed levels prior to the redemption announcement.

Dyna-Mac redeemed the S$50 million worth of bonds earlier this month.

Another bond which has slumped is CW Group Holdings, whose price of around 88, or a yield of about 15 per cent, is " mispriced" as it suggests dire business conditions and stress in the company' s financials, which is not the case, Mr Lin said.

" At 15 per cent (yield) the risk reward has turned in favour of the bond investor," said Mr Lin, who calls the bond " attractive."

The poor sentiment surrounding SGD bonds is also making it difficult for small companies to raise debt, and investors fearful of investing their growing mountains of cash.

Clifford Lee, DBS Bank head of fixed income, said it' s like a " fixation" that the entire SGD bond market is in trouble " which is not true."

He noted that Singapore companies are healthy overall when you look at the redemptions which have been taking place so far this year.

Year-to-date some 122 deals amounting to S$11.8 billion have matured as scheduled while 16 issues amounting to S$4.87 billion have been redeemed ahead of maturity.

There are three main reasons for redemption ahead of maturity:

Several issues redeemed this year are perpetuals which have call dates, that is, the issuer has the right to call or redeem at a certain date.

Others are due to refinancing of existing bonds with cheaper or more efficient alternative funding, such as taking out a bank loan.

" It could be refinancing for longer tenure at a more efficient rate," said Mr Lee.

Some early retirement of bonds is due to a lower requirement for funding in view of more cautious market sentiment and slower future business growth expectations, he added.

Genting' s strong " fortress-like" balance sheet - as at end-June 2016, it had a whopping cash balance to the tune of S$4.87 billion - means the firm is likely to call or redeem its two perpetual bonds worth a combined S$2.3 billion in the second half of 2017, said Mr Lin.

But cash flush investors are wondering what to do with their money.

Said Neel Gopalakrishnan, Credit Suisse, emerging markets bond analyst, private banking research: " Finding good quality bonds in SGD is a challenge for investors."

In the absence of suitable alternatives, investors would need to move on to another asset class in SGD or invest in bonds of other currencies, he said.

" For example, the USD bond market has much deeper liquidity and choice of credits compared to the SGD bond market, and investors could also potentially benefit from currency gains, given our expectation of a gradual depreciation in the SGD."


 
 
Sporeguy
    04-Dec-2016 08:34  
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At 92c Vs redeem price of $1, would it more productive to buy back from the market than redeem?

Qanghoo      ( Date: 24-Oct-2016 16:01) Posted:



There was an article which our  Brother Sun223 posted in the Dyna Mac thread a few days ago  which makes very interesting reading.  I' ve ' plagiarised' it here.  Hope Brother Sun doesn' t mind.  It gives some insight as to why even bonds of coys doing well are being sold down to considerably below par. 

 

OCT 21, 20165:50 AM


Singapore

CORDLIFE Group has asked bondholders to a meeting early next month to get their approval to redeem their debt ahead of maturity, an event which has received little publicity amid the chatter on bond defaults.

In fact there' s the danger of collateral damage threatening bonds issued by companies with strong balance sheets with some of the prices of these bonds falling to distressed levels.

Year to date (Oct 18) S$17.4 billion worth of bonds have been redeemed, including a chunk redeemed ahead of their scheduled maturity, compared with S$785 million of bonds which have defaulted, restructured or are in the process of restructuring.


The chorus of bad news hogging the spotlight is lumping companies with strong balance sheets with those flush with cash, said Terence Lin, assistant director of bonds and portfolio management at fund researcher iFast.

" Some are probably still fine but the general sentiment doesn' t make them look good good companies/bad companies are being sold off," said Mr Lin.

The price of Dyna-Mac bonds fell to 92 cents on the dollar before the company announced on September 8 it would get bondholders' approval to redeem the bonds ahead of its August 1 2017 scheduled maturity date.

Although Dyna-Mac operates in the troubled offshore and marine space, it had a net cash position end-June 2016, noted Mr Lin.

Bonds are sold at 100 par.

" There was a sell-off in Singdollar bonds after August, it was collateral damage," he said, referring to Dyna-Mac' s price which had fallen to distressed levels prior to the redemption announcement.

Dyna-Mac redeemed the S$50 million worth of bonds earlier this month.

Another bond which has slumped is CW Group Holdings, whose price of around 88, or a yield of about 15 per cent, is " mispriced" as it suggests dire business conditions and stress in the company' s financials, which is not the case, Mr Lin said.

" At 15 per cent (yield) the risk reward has turned in favour of the bond investor," said Mr Lin, who calls the bond " attractive."

The poor sentiment surrounding SGD bonds is also making it difficult for small companies to raise debt, and investors fearful of investing their growing mountains of cash.

Clifford Lee, DBS Bank head of fixed income, said it' s like a " fixation" that the entire SGD bond market is in trouble " which is not true."

He noted that Singapore companies are healthy overall when you look at the redemptions which have been taking place so far this year.

Year-to-date some 122 deals amounting to S$11.8 billion have matured as scheduled while 16 issues amounting to S$4.87 billion have been redeemed ahead of maturity.

There are three main reasons for redemption ahead of maturity:

Several issues redeemed this year are perpetuals which have call dates, that is, the issuer has the right to call or redeem at a certain date.

Others are due to refinancing of existing bonds with cheaper or more efficient alternative funding, such as taking out a bank loan.

" It could be refinancing for longer tenure at a more efficient rate," said Mr Lee.

Some early retirement of bonds is due to a lower requirement for funding in view of more cautious market sentiment and slower future business growth expectations, he added.

Genting' s strong " fortress-like" balance sheet - as at end-June 2016, it had a whopping cash balance to the tune of S$4.87 billion - means the firm is likely to call or redeem its two perpetual bonds worth a combined S$2.3 billion in the second half of 2017, said Mr Lin.

But cash flush investors are wondering what to do with their money.

Said Neel Gopalakrishnan, Credit Suisse, emerging markets bond analyst, private banking research: " Finding good quality bonds in SGD is a challenge for investors."

In the absence of suitable alternatives, investors would need to move on to another asset class in SGD or invest in bonds of other currencies, he said.

" For example, the USD bond market has much deeper liquidity and choice of credits compared to the SGD bond market, and investors could also potentially benefit from currency gains, given our expectation of a gradual depreciation in the SGD."

 
 
Qanghoo
    03-Dec-2016 11:26  
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OPEC n Russia in blissful marriage now.  Will this one  recover from nervous breakdown soon?
 
 
NickRevell
    16-Nov-2016 19:13  
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Any clarity yet? Stock still seems volatile..

sun233      ( Date: 29-Oct-2016 10:17) Posted:



No problem bro i also plagarised from Business Times. Hoping to buy into this soon. ust waiting for US election clarity.

Qanghoo      ( Date: 24-Oct-2016 16:01) Posted:



There was an article which our  Brother Sun223 posted in the Dyna Mac thread a few days ago  which makes very interesting reading.  I' ve ' plagiarised' it here.  Hope Brother Sun doesn' t mind.  It gives some insight as to why even bonds of coys doing well are being sold down to considerably below par. 

 

OCT 21, 20165:50 AM


Singapore

CORDLIFE Group has asked bondholders to a meeting early next month to get their approval to redeem their debt ahead of maturity, an event which has received little publicity amid the chatter on bond defaults.

In fact there' s the danger of collateral damage threatening bonds issued by companies with strong balance sheets with some of the prices of these bonds falling to distressed levels.

Year to date (Oct 18) S$17.4 billion worth of bonds have been redeemed, including a chunk redeemed ahead of their scheduled maturity, compared with S$785 million of bonds which have defaulted, restructured or are in the process of restructuring.


The chorus of bad news hogging the spotlight is lumping companies with strong balance sheets with those flush with cash, said Terence Lin, assistant director of bonds and portfolio management at fund researcher iFast.

" Some are probably still fine but the general sentiment doesn' t make them look good good companies/bad companies are being sold off," said Mr Lin.

The price of Dyna-Mac bonds fell to 92 cents on the dollar before the company announced on September 8 it would get bondholders' approval to redeem the bonds ahead of its August 1 2017 scheduled maturity date.

Although Dyna-Mac operates in the troubled offshore and marine space, it had a net cash position end-June 2016, noted Mr Lin.

Bonds are sold at 100 par.

" There was a sell-off in Singdollar bonds after August, it was collateral damage," he said, referring to Dyna-Mac' s price which had fallen to distressed levels prior to the redemption announcement.

Dyna-Mac redeemed the S$50 million worth of bonds earlier this month.

Another bond which has slumped is CW Group Holdings, whose price of around 88, or a yield of about 15 per cent, is " mispriced" as it suggests dire business conditions and stress in the company' s financials, which is not the case, Mr Lin said.

" At 15 per cent (yield) the risk reward has turned in favour of the bond investor," said Mr Lin, who calls the bond " attractive."

The poor sentiment surrounding SGD bonds is also making it difficult for small companies to raise debt, and investors fearful of investing their growing mountains of cash.

Clifford Lee, DBS Bank head of fixed income, said it' s like a " fixation" that the entire SGD bond market is in trouble " which is not true."

He noted that Singapore companies are healthy overall when you look at the redemptions which have been taking place so far this year.

Year-to-date some 122 deals amounting to S$11.8 billion have matured as scheduled while 16 issues amounting to S$4.87 billion have been redeemed ahead of maturity.

There are three main reasons for redemption ahead of maturity:

Several issues redeemed this year are perpetuals which have call dates, that is, the issuer has the right to call or redeem at a certain date.

Others are due to refinancing of existing bonds with cheaper or more efficient alternative funding, such as taking out a bank loan.

" It could be refinancing for longer tenure at a more efficient rate," said Mr Lee.

Some early retirement of bonds is due to a lower requirement for funding in view of more cautious market sentiment and slower future business growth expectations, he added.

Genting' s strong " fortress-like" balance sheet - as at end-June 2016, it had a whopping cash balance to the tune of S$4.87 billion - means the firm is likely to call or redeem its two perpetual bonds worth a combined S$2.3 billion in the second half of 2017, said Mr Lin.

But cash flush investors are wondering what to do with their money.

Said Neel Gopalakrishnan, Credit Suisse, emerging markets bond analyst, private banking research: " Finding good quality bonds in SGD is a challenge for investors."

In the absence of suitable alternatives, investors would need to move on to another asset class in SGD or invest in bonds of other currencies, he said.

" For example, the USD bond market has much deeper liquidity and choice of credits compared to the SGD bond market, and investors could also potentially benefit from currency gains, given our expectation of a gradual depreciation in the SGD."


 
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