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savage007
    29-Aug-2021 15:40  
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For those who have missed out the news on what is moving forward for Oceanus, here is the link:
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/oceanus-sets-up-new-unit-in-china-will-work-on-watch-list-exit

 
 
 
kiattttt
    29-Aug-2021 15:39  
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Oceanus is not a penny stock

dontbeconned      ( Date: 29-Aug-2021 12:38) Posted:

Dear friends,
 
Just found out that I omitted to add this in my comments for retail investors to understand better the rationale of investing. I apologize
 
As Oceanus is a penny stock   with substantial accumulated loses , we cannot use value stock to find whether Oceanus  is trading under its true value. You can use it for OCBC, DBS, or even embattled SPH. So authors using ratios like P/E and host of of other multiples to pick the most discounted  stocks are either totally ignorant or to mislead.    
Plse use the following to make your decision.
Growth Score  present financial strength  and   its future outlook.  Use this to determine AND find stocks that will experience  sustainable growth over time
 
Momentum Score &ldquo The trend is your friend&rdquo Take  advantage of upward or downward trends  and its earnings outlook.  This helps you to determine   favorable times to  buy high momentum stocks.
 
uSE THESE  two score, if Oceanus meet the requirements of the two scores ignore other doomsday comments.

 
 
savage007
    29-Aug-2021 15:05  
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One more point to add on to your list. Alafun had also claimed that he knew some " insider" who provided him information previously. Why would an internal insider, who most likely have stakes in Oceanus, to cause self-sabotage by foolishly providing unverified info for him to badmouth the company, destroying all genuine hard work put in during the company' s restructuring? Furthermore, CEO Peter Koh had already declared that the company did not involve in manipulating the share price and I believe SGX would have done their due diligence to certify that. 

This " insider" may not even exist and the notion was likely to be fabricated by Alafun in an attempt to make his analysis sound convincing to others.  Being a die-hard naysayer is all he needs to push his personal agenda.

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 23:06) Posted:

Here' s why I would encourage everyone to filter what AlaFun says with a bucket full of salt:
  1. He admitted to creating this " AlaFun" account to disguise his true identity.  Thereafter, he has only spread doubt and lies about Oceanus.
  2. He doesn' t realise he is not funny.
  3. He spread false allegations that Oceanus' s management orchestrated a pump and dump scheme in Feb 2021.  He went hiding after Oceanus threatened to investigate.
  4. In explaining the SGX delay, he suggested that a trading company like Oceanus could " easily manipulate their financial statements" .  He ignores the fact that Oceanus' s accounts are audited and achieved a " clean" audit opinion for its FYE 2020 accounts.
  5. He appears to have a personal agenda against the management of Oceanus.
  6. He goes from " SGX Exit has been priced in" to " SGX Exit will not happen" within the same breadth.
  7. He wilfully ignores the facts of Oceanus business growth, and selectively quotes financial numbers out of the context of the entire financial statements.
  8. He claims Oceanus' s business plan of tech-up are just " stories" , when he doesn' t see a financial impact after 3 months of said announcement.
  9. He aspires to be a share price fortune-teller but has a lousy track record so far.  He doesn' t know that even a broken clock is right twice.
  10. He appears to hold a valuation method of companies that is outdated and irrelevant for a growth company.  Many have tried to educate him to no avail.
  11. He confessed that he is not invested in Oceanus, and is too afraid to short it.  He has no skin in the game.  Yet, he occasionally surfaces to talk smack.
Be careful of some bad actors on these public forum.  Opposing views and investment thesis are welcome, but it becomes dangerous when they are founded upon lies and ill intent.

 

 
dontbeconned
    29-Aug-2021 12:38  
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Dear friends,
 
Just found out that I omitted to add this in my comments for retail investors to understand better the rationale of investing. I apologize
 
As Oceanus is a penny stock   with substantial accumulated loses , we cannot use value stock to find whether Oceanus  is trading under its true value. You can use it for OCBC, DBS, or even embattled SPH. So authors using ratios like P/E and host of of other multiples to pick the most discounted  stocks are either totally ignorant or to mislead.    
Plse use the following to make your decision.
Growth Score  present financial strength  and   its future outlook.  Use this to determine AND find stocks that will experience  sustainable growth over time
 
Momentum Score &ldquo The trend is your friend&rdquo Take  advantage of upward or downward trends  and its earnings outlook.  This helps you to determine   favorable times to  buy high momentum stocks.
 
uSE THESE  two score, if Oceanus meet the requirements of the two scores ignore other doomsday comments.
 
 
Huchin
    29-Aug-2021 11:38  
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I also want to know the same. Who pushed the price up?

AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 20:54) Posted:

You longist try to shout up the price, but the price never went up, even your so called many good news. I can feel your pain and disappointment. Probably you should write to the management to question some key questions:

1. What really happend in early March, who did the pump and dump, and who is the invisible hand?
2. What is the current status of watchlist exit, what is the conversation with SGX, any information not disclosed to the public who should know?
3. Why give such " good" result, the stock price did not go up?

If you can' t find the answer by yourself, go ask the company. Much better than just shouting up the price really.

 
 
Huchin
    29-Aug-2021 11:33  
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Could not agree with you more AlaFun on your comment!
 

 
AlaFun
    29-Aug-2021 10:49  
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I just can' t be bothered to explain and reply your each point.

Your ill intent is to trap new investors to buy such overvalued stock. My intent is simple, I adivse people to avoid investing in such highly manipulated and overvalued stock. Many have got burnt, and should not fall into trap again.

I am always here, welcome to investigate me. My views are based on sound financial data and analysis, not like many longist who just shout and wish price go up up. 

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 23:06) Posted:

Here' s why I would encourage everyone to filter what AlaFun says with a bucket full of salt:
  1. He admitted to creating this " AlaFun" account to disguise his true identity.  Thereafter, he has only spread doubt and lies about Oceanus.
  2. He doesn' t realise he is not funny.
  3. He spread false allegations that Oceanus' s management orchestrated a pump and dump scheme in Feb 2021.  He went hiding after Oceanus threatened to investigate.
  4. In explaining the SGX delay, he suggested that a trading company like Oceanus could " easily manipulate their financial statements" .  He ignores the fact that Oceanus' s accounts are audited and achieved a " clean" audit opinion for its FYE 2020 accounts.
  5. He appears to have a personal agenda against the management of Oceanus.
  6. He goes from " SGX Exit has been priced in" to " SGX Exit will not happen" within the same breadth.
  7. He wilfully ignores the facts of Oceanus business growth, and selectively quotes financial numbers out of the context of the entire financial statements.
  8. He claims Oceanus' s business plan of tech-up are just " stories" , when he doesn' t see a financial impact after 3 months of said announcement.
  9. He aspires to be a share price fortune-teller but has a lousy track record so far.  He doesn' t know that even a broken clock is right twice.
  10. He appears to hold a valuation method of companies that is outdated and irrelevant for a growth company.  Many have tried to educate him to no avail.
  11. He confessed that he is not invested in Oceanus, and is too afraid to short it.  He has no skin in the game.  Yet, he occasionally surfaces to talk smack.
Be careful of some bad actors on these public forum.  Opposing views and investment thesis are welcome, but it becomes dangerous when they are founded upon lies and ill intent.

 
 
ckmpd1
    29-Aug-2021 07:26  
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well said, mondaybluesy.

there are a few forumners here who tried to talk down the share price of Oceanus with dubious comments.  Discerning investors need to see through them

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 23:06) Posted:

Here' s why I would encourage everyone to filter what AlaFun says with a bucket full of salt:
  1. He admitted to creating this " AlaFun" account to disguise his true identity.  Thereafter, he has only spread doubt and lies about Oceanus.
  2. He doesn' t realise he is not funny.
  3. He spread false allegations that Oceanus' s management orchestrated a pump and dump scheme in Feb 2021.  He went hiding after Oceanus threatened to investigate.
  4. In explaining the SGX delay, he suggested that a trading company like Oceanus could " easily manipulate their financial statements" .  He ignores the fact that Oceanus' s accounts are audited and achieved a " clean" audit opinion for its FYE 2020 accounts.
  5. He appears to have a personal agenda against the management of Oceanus.
  6. He goes from " SGX Exit has been priced in" to " SGX Exit will not happen" within the same breadth.
  7. He wilfully ignores the facts of Oceanus business growth, and selectively quotes financial numbers out of the context of the entire financial statements.
  8. He claims Oceanus' s business plan of tech-up are just " stories" , when he doesn' t see a financial impact after 3 months of said announcement.
  9. He aspires to be a share price fortune-teller but has a lousy track record so far.  He doesn' t know that even a broken clock is right twice.
  10. He appears to hold a valuation method of companies that is outdated and irrelevant for a growth company.  Many have tried to educate him to no avail.
  11. He confessed that he is not invested in Oceanus, and is too afraid to short it.  He has no skin in the game.  Yet, he occasionally surfaces to talk smack.
Be careful of some bad actors on these public forum.  Opposing views and investment thesis are welcome, but it becomes dangerous when they are founded upon lies and ill intent.

 
 
mondaybluesy
    28-Aug-2021 23:06  
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Here' s why I would encourage everyone to filter what AlaFun says with a bucket full of salt:
  1. He admitted to creating this " AlaFun" account to disguise his true identity.  Thereafter, he has only spread doubt and lies about Oceanus.
  2. He doesn' t realise he is not funny.
  3. He spread false allegations that Oceanus' s management orchestrated a pump and dump scheme in Feb 2021.  He went hiding after Oceanus threatened to investigate.
  4. In explaining the SGX delay, he suggested that a trading company like Oceanus could " easily manipulate their financial statements" .  He ignores the fact that Oceanus' s accounts are audited and achieved a " clean" audit opinion for its FYE 2020 accounts.
  5. He appears to have a personal agenda against the management of Oceanus.
  6. He goes from " SGX Exit has been priced in" to " SGX Exit will not happen" within the same breadth.
  7. He wilfully ignores the facts of Oceanus business growth, and selectively quotes financial numbers out of the context of the entire financial statements.
  8. He claims Oceanus' s business plan of tech-up are just " stories" , when he doesn' t see a financial impact after 3 months of said announcement.
  9. He aspires to be a share price fortune-teller but has a lousy track record so far.  He doesn' t know that even a broken clock is right twice.
  10. He appears to hold a valuation method of companies that is outdated and irrelevant for a growth company.  Many have tried to educate him to no avail.
  11. He confessed that he is not invested in Oceanus, and is too afraid to short it.  He has no skin in the game.  Yet, he occasionally surfaces to talk smack.
Be careful of some bad actors on these public forum.  Opposing views and investment thesis are welcome, but it becomes dangerous when they are founded upon lies and ill intent.
 
 
mondaybluesy
    28-Aug-2021 22:51  
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None of these questions are suitable to be posed to a company.  I suggest you read through what you just typed and perhaps reflect a little before you post.  smiley

In case you are genuinely clueless as to why, here' s an answer to your questions:
1. Why would the management of Oceanus know?  You had previously embarrassed yourself by claiming that it was Oceanus' s management who orchestrated the pump and dump.  Are you misbehaving again?
2.  Have you read the General Announcement dated 23 August 2021 posted by Oceanus on SGX?  If so, re-read it again with comprehension.
3.  Lol.  Because that is not how share prices work.  Share price does not go up when a company poses " good results" .  Share price goes up when there are more buyers than sellers.

AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 20:54) Posted:

You longist try to shout up the price, but the price never went up, even your so called many good news. I can feel your pain and disappointment. Probably you should write to the management to question some key questions:

1. What really happend in early March, who did the pump and dump, and who is the invisible hand?
2. What is the current status of watchlist exit, what is the conversation with SGX, any information not disclosed to the public who should know?
3. Why give such " good" result, the stock price did not go up?

If you can' t find the answer by yourself, go ask the company. Much better than just shouting up the price really.

 

 
savage007
    28-Aug-2021 22:48  
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You shortist try to shout down the price, but the price never went down. I can feel your pain and disappointment too. Seriously Alafun, you don' t have to offer  hypocritical pretence of  condolence here.  Don' t worry for us, we are logical and mature enough to do our due diligence. Most importantly, we are patient enough to wait for the price to rocket and time will give you(or rather the longist) satisfactory answers to your questions. It seems like you are more anxious in knowing the answers, why not you check with the company yourself? Isn' t it much better than just shouting down the price really?

AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 20:54) Posted:

You longist try to shout up the price, but the price never went up, even your so called many good news. I can feel your pain and disappointment. Probably you should write to the management to question some key questions:

1. What really happend in early March, who did the pump and dump, and who is the invisible hand?
2. What is the current status of watchlist exit, what is the conversation with SGX, any information not disclosed to the public who should know?
3. Why give such " good" result, the stock price did not go up?

If you can' t find the answer by yourself, go ask the company. Much better than just shouting up the price really.

 
 
AlaFun
    28-Aug-2021 20:54  
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You longist try to shout up the price, but the price never went up, even your so called many good news. I can feel your pain and disappointment. Probably you should write to the management to question some key questions:

1. What really happend in early March, who did the pump and dump, and who is the invisible hand?
2. What is the current status of watchlist exit, what is the conversation with SGX, any information not disclosed to the public who should know?
3. Why give such " good" result, the stock price did not go up?

If you can' t find the answer by yourself, go ask the company. Much better than just shouting up the price really.
 
 
gregtan123
    28-Aug-2021 18:31  
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Oceanus Transcript of Phone Call: 

https://omny.fm/shows/money-fm-893/peter-koh-nick-tan?fbclid=IwAR1iAPnWSHFIAfDje6lTUSh3jI0ZTC1hLUgVFj8C6XwJP2ASj3_RxyeyR_E#sharing

HHUAT KA SIAO. 10 cents by CNY 2022!
 
 
surgiooo
    28-Aug-2021 16:54  
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Fart his way to vaccination..

Redstar8730      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 16:22) Posted:

Ala fart everyday farting, weekday farting , weekend still farting. 😱  

 
 
mrwise
    28-Aug-2021 16:39  
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If he fart somemore and give false accusation, will ask Oceanus to sue him upside down!

Enough of his nonsence!!!

Sing37      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 14:21) Posted:

No lar, you didn' t predict the price will not go up after half year result release. Instead, you predicted back in July that the price will drop to below 0.02 after 1H results release, never happen leh..
if you really accurate, price today would be below 0.02.. results out for few week already
don' t prata here and there lar.. 

your comments on this company so far is anything but objective... what is your real agenda? you keep telling people to sell....
Curious.. wonder if you are the real syndicate you keep mentioning... hope the company takes notice.....


 

AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 12:23) Posted:

My past forecast was all accurate.

I warned to sell before March major sell-off.

I predicted price will not go up after half year result release.

Now I predict the price will fall below 0.03. You will see that


 

 
Redstar8730
    28-Aug-2021 16:22  
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Ala fart everyday farting, weekday farting , weekend still farting. 😱  
 
 
Sing37
    28-Aug-2021 14:21  
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No lar, you didn' t predict the price will not go up after half year result release. Instead, you predicted back in July that the price will drop to below 0.02 after 1H results release, never happen leh..
if you really accurate, price today would be below 0.02.. results out for few week already
don' t prata here and there lar.. 

your comments on this company so far is anything but objective... what is your real agenda? you keep telling people to sell....
Curious.. wonder if you are the real syndicate you keep mentioning... hope the company takes notice.....


 

AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 12:23) Posted:

My past forecast was all accurate.

I warned to sell before March major sell-off.

I predicted price will not go up after half year result release.

Now I predict the price will fall below 0.03. You will see that.

Lightyear      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 12:19) Posted:

U look at only oceanus and keep wishing it bad. All your past forecast have been inaccurate .. it's like saying doomsday everyday and when it finally happen say 50 years later and you claimed that you are right ... Pathetic ...


 
 
mike2867
    28-Aug-2021 13:57  
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Don't forget to tune in to MONEY FM 89.3 https://www.facebook.com/moneyfm893/videos/6170863166317830 Happening now!

>> 1 h 36 mins onwards <<

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Prty382c
    28-Aug-2021 13:44  
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Why whose do not like oceanus company. Keep posting negative. Since you are not supporting. Just keep quiet .
 
 
mrwise
    28-Aug-2021 12:31  
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Go n short it full force if u so sure pls n show us!

Crap! Haha!


AlaFun      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 12:23) Posted:

My past forecast was all accurate.

I warned to sell before March major sell-off.

I predicted price will not go up after half year result release.

Now I predict the price will fall below 0.03. You will see that.

Lightyear      ( Date: 28-Aug-2021 12:19) Posted:

U look at only oceanus and keep wishing it bad. All your past forecast have been inaccurate .. it's like saying doomsday everyday and when it finally happen say 50 years later and you claimed that you are right ... Pathetic ...


 
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