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brightpoint
    19-Oct-2016 11:31  
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wah..this one drop back...can buy again?? sold my previous purchase at with some profit
 
 
lifeisgood
    14-Oct-2016 23:39  
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This is damn good deal for the doctors.

First, the doctors take back more than ALL the guaranteed future profits, partially upfront, partially via instalment. Plus they receive shares at something like 13 times, but now more like 20 times PE, meaning the doctors profits is further multiplied by 20 folds, which in 5 years time when moratorium is over, can dump off the shares (realised 5 years of work for 20 years of payment, wow!). Plus they still receive salaries during all these years. Whoever bought these shares are paying huge for these doctors service. Where is the value add here? Worse than reits !!!

Now imagine a person works in a company and makes $100K salary. You get 100 of these workers to form a company, pay them $10 million cash upfront, and also give them shares, then you put this $10 mio future earnings inside a shell company, and you IPO the company at 20 times PE, giving it a valuation $200 million. Holy .... !!! What the ??? And people scramble to buy the shares! 

lglg666      ( Date: 14-Oct-2016 23:27) Posted:

Creative accounting plus financial engineering....the way to go!!

lifeisgood      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 18:11) Posted:



Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay).

This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging.


 
 
lglg666
    14-Oct-2016 23:27  
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Creative accounting plus financial engineering....the way to go!!

lifeisgood      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 18:11) Posted:



Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay).

This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging.

Lepin888      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 17:51) Posted:

Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....


 

 
chinton86
    14-Oct-2016 22:35  
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I bought for investment purpose more than speculative ones.i would target $1.20 then i consider to sell off half and leave the rest.
 
 
 
brightpoint
    14-Oct-2016 11:26  
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this one can up to 50, lets wait and see
 
 
Maller
    14-Oct-2016 11:23  
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Asiamedic still lagging behind in terms of share price?
 

 
brightpoint
    14-Oct-2016 09:40  
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Up liao...475

brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:49) Posted:



this round i set cut loss at 42

brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:46) Posted:



me too..huat together


 
 
brightpoint
    13-Oct-2016 11:49  
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this round i set cut loss at 42

brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:46) Posted:



me too..huat together

chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:44) Posted:



Bought at 45


 
 
brightpoint
    13-Oct-2016 11:46  
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me too..huat together

chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:44) Posted:



Bought at 45

 
 
chinton86
    13-Oct-2016 11:44  
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Bought at 45
 

 
john_ric
    13-Oct-2016 10:58  
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pump and dump.  classic case.

 
 
 
brightpoint
    13-Oct-2016 10:39  
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wah...just back from meeting..drop till 45...early morning 7am set sell mode at 49, really heng..sold that...coz no time monitor, hend ah
 
 
chinton86
    12-Oct-2016 21:06  
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$1.20 in the making
 
 
lifeisgood
    12-Oct-2016 18:11  
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Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay).

This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging.

Lepin888      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 17:51) Posted:

Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....

 
 
Lepin888
    12-Oct-2016 17:51  
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Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....
 

 
brightpoint
    12-Oct-2016 16:33  
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Wah...still holding so well..
 
 
brightpoint
    12-Oct-2016 13:12  
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i still holding 100 lots, but super high risk, if you are high risk taker can enter, but have to monitor very closely, any sudden drop must cut lose immediately, 

brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:04) Posted:

15,000
0.485
0.490
133,000
 
 
241,000
0.480
0.495
853,400
 
 
116,000
0.475
0.500
949,700
 
 
219,100
0.470
0.505
640,000
 
 
152,700
0.465
0.510
183,600
 
 
311,000
0.460
0.515
108,000
 
 
210,000
0.455
0.520
164,500
 
 
606,100
0.450
0.525
35,000
 
 
130,000
0.445
0.530
77,000
 
 
236,500
0.440
0.535
114,500
 
 
466,600
0.435
0.540
32,000
 
 
322,000
0.430
0.545
75,000
 
 
222,000
0.425
0.550
248,000
 
 
293,500
0.420
0.585
11,000
 
 
305,000
0.415
0.740
8,000
 
 
490,000
0.410
 
 
 
 
92,000
0.405
 
 


zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:00) Posted:



can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think?


 
 
brightpoint
    12-Oct-2016 13:04  
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15,000
0.485
0.490
133,000
 
 
241,000
0.480
0.495
853,400
 
 
116,000
0.475
0.500
949,700
 
 
219,100
0.470
0.505
640,000
 
 
152,700
0.465
0.510
183,600
 
 
311,000
0.460
0.515
108,000
 
 
210,000
0.455
0.520
164,500
 
 
606,100
0.450
0.525
35,000
 
 
130,000
0.445
0.530
77,000
 
 
236,500
0.440
0.535
114,500
 
 
466,600
0.435
0.540
32,000
 
 
322,000
0.430
0.545
75,000
 
 
222,000
0.425
0.550
248,000
 
 
293,500
0.420
0.585
11,000
 
 
305,000
0.415
0.740
8,000
 
 
490,000
0.410
 
 
 
 
92,000
0.405
 
 


zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:00) Posted:



can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think?

brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:31) Posted:



Good, as long have profit, i sold some at 49 and 495, still holding 100 lots, my q at 50 no eat up leh, see how


 
 
zv_francesca
    12-Oct-2016 13:00  
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can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think?

brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:31) Posted:



Good, as long have profit, i sold some at 49 and 495, still holding 100 lots, my q at 50 no eat up leh, see how

zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:28) Posted:



i sold mine at 0.475 just now. bought last month at 0.345. overbought today.


 
 
jeremyow
    12-Oct-2016 12:34  
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http://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/938-2016/11046-singapore-medical-group-to-acquire-astra-for-s-60-million-and-be-no-1-in-private-women-healthcare

This medical group has a far more exciting and sexy growth story than what its financials offer currently. The medical group has not make progress in terms of growing its earnings. There are quite a number of years so far whereby it has made losses. Its operating cashflows have not really picked up over the years despite the group which has been on an expansion and growth spur. It still manages to continue to expand and grow by cash raising exercises (mostly through issuance of equity). Thus, there is no organic growth through its low operating cashflows and negative free cashflows at the moment. Thus, the group has been accumulating losses on its balance sheet through the years albeit that the accumulation of losses has slowed down in the recent year.

With the most recent acquisition of Astra Womens' Specialist, it does provide a catalyst to the sharp increase in the group' s share price. But, without a firm foundation of stable growth in earnings and operating cashflows, this medical group is currently worth more for its sexy growth and expansion story than what its financials can offer. One could say the time is still not ripe yet for Singapore Medical Group to see its good financials coming in. Well, we shall see whether with the most current acquisition of Astra, the earnings and operating cashflows of the group can indeed see a boost as what many articles and write-ups from different sources say.

However, even if that is not realised, as long as its share price can be pushed up further by more sexy growth and expansion ventures, why not consider this group since its share price has already rewarded its shareholders well by increasing by 100%, doubling in a few months even without solid financials at the moment? Which is more important? Solid financials of a business or its solid share price? As always DYODD.    
 
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