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Wanderer_JCHP
    06-Sep-2021 17:01  
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Exactly. Who would spend so much time on a forum that one is not vested only to get told off. Lol.

adawong      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 16:00) Posted:

I really can' t stand this  kiattttt guy anymore. You claim to be warning people not to be trapped by this stock, but all you are doing is to keep repeating the same points over and over. I believe all of us here have seen them, but whether we want to heed your advice or not, that' s up to us. Not really sure what' s your purpose in trying to shove your views down our throats. You don' t believe in this stock, say your piece and leave. As far as I can tell, you talk big but refuse to accept any challenges issued by other people. Seriously your posts bore me out. Enough please.

 
 
adawong
    06-Sep-2021 16:00  
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I really can' t stand this  kiattttt guy anymore. You claim to be warning people not to be trapped by this stock, but all you are doing is to keep repeating the same points over and over. I believe all of us here have seen them, but whether we want to heed your advice or not, that' s up to us. Not really sure what' s your purpose in trying to shove your views down our throats. You don' t believe in this stock, say your piece and leave. As far as I can tell, you talk big but refuse to accept any challenges issued by other people. Seriously your posts bore me out. Enough please.
 
 
ckmpd1
    06-Sep-2021 15:57  
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yes.  We are invested for the long run

peterann      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 15:50) Posted:

Fully agreed. This forum is for like minded optimistic investors in Oceanus. Many of us are pioneer investors in the company. We have ride the high and low waves. Naysayers can save your breath.



 

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:54) Posted:

Good for you.  However, this is Oceanus forum, not Place Holdings or Frencken.  The merits of the other companies should be shared on their respective forums.  Please don' t indirectly solicit investors towards investing in your current long positions.

For clarity, a share consolidation is not a necessary precedent for an investment by institutional investors.  Further, there are many other ways to attract institutional investors beyond an equity issuance


 

 
peterann
    06-Sep-2021 15:50  
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Fully agreed. This forum is for like minded optimistic investors in Oceanus. Many of us are pioneer investors in the company. We have ride the high and low waves. Naysayers can save your breath.



 

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:54) Posted:

Good for you.  However, this is Oceanus forum, not Place Holdings or Frencken.  The merits of the other companies should be shared on their respective forums.  Please don' t indirectly solicit investors towards investing in your current long positions.

For clarity, a share consolidation is not a necessary precedent for an investment by institutional investors.  Further, there are many other ways to attract institutional investors beyond an equity issuance.

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:43) Posted:

Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 


 
 
Wanderer_JCHP
    06-Sep-2021 15:43  
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Very hopeful for this one, gonna hold for long.  yes

dontbeconned      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 15:38) Posted:

I dont really care what other said unless they are  substantialled with facts.  I had made my own  research .  This low prices price stock is bound to boom in future.  When  everyone is trying to talk down this  stock, by taking advantage of timing , you can position  for a massive gain. Please do it with your spare cash  Cheers

 
 
ckmpd1
    06-Sep-2021 15:40  
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yesyesyes

dontbeconned      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 15:38) Posted:

I dont really care what other said unless they are  substantialled with facts.  I had made my own  research .  This low prices price stock is bound to boom in future.  When  everyone is trying to talk down this  stock, by taking advantage of timing , you can position  for a massive gain. Please do it with your spare cash  Cheers

 

 
dontbeconned
    06-Sep-2021 15:38  
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I dont really care what other said unless they are  substantialled with facts.  I had made my own  research .  This low prices price stock is bound to boom in future.  When  everyone is trying to talk down this  stock, by taking advantage of timing , you can position  for a massive gain. Please do it with your spare cash  Cheers
 
 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 15:22  
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Er CEO can say anything. Which CEO will say their stocks bad lol 

mrwise      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:53) Posted:

Haha....u are the CEO Oceanus!!!??? luckily not!

Go and read up what Oceanus CEO said!!

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:43) Posted:

Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 


 
 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 15:10  
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Maybe u have trouble reading. I was just stating an example. Yes of course not necessary but it gives u a better chance and that is the reason why place holdings is proposing that idea. Naturally big investors will be less interested in ' penny price' status stocks which explains the idea of share consolidation 

mondaybluesy      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:54) Posted:

Good for you.  However, this is Oceanus forum, not Place Holdings or Frencken.  The merits of the other companies should be shared on their respective forums.  Please don' t indirectly solicit investors towards investing in your current long positions.

For clarity, a share consolidation is not a necessary precedent for an investment by institutional investors.  Further, there are many other ways to attract institutional investors beyond an equity issuance.

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:43) Posted:

Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 


 
 
mondaybluesy
    06-Sep-2021 14:54  
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Good for you.  However, this is Oceanus forum, not Place Holdings or Frencken.  The merits of the other companies should be shared on their respective forums.  Please don' t indirectly solicit investors towards investing in your current long positions.

For clarity, a share consolidation is not a necessary precedent for an investment by institutional investors.  Further, there are many other ways to attract institutional investors beyond an equity issuance.

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:43) Posted:

Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 

 

 
mrwise
    06-Sep-2021 14:53  
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Haha....u are the CEO Oceanus!!!??? luckily not!

Go and read up what Oceanus CEO said!!

kiattttt      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 14:43) Posted:

Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 

 
 
kiattttt
    06-Sep-2021 14:43  
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Just realized after exit watchlist, it needs to go through share consolidation also to attract institutional investors probably 10-1. Something like place holdings. However i would rather put my money on place holdings than in this 
 
 
Lightyear
    06-Sep-2021 09:35  
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That's where you are wrong. Sell on realisation will happens only when it's on a uptrend .. now hat it's already sideways. A dip will not happen....In this case...Cause it has been consolidating...

AlaFun      ( Date: 05-Sep-2021 22:02) Posted:

Thanks for your reminder. These are exactly the downward trend.

Exiting watchlist - will be a short spike and trap all buyers.

Revenue and earning growth from Season Global - 1H 2021 results very good? price no move, all people wait until April 2022 for whole year annoucement? Price can not be supported from now to April, only going down. Plus, 2021 whole year will be a lot of uncertainty in terms of financial performance.

Further expansion of tech oriented aquaculture businesses - no major progress, and no big impact on financials

Consoliation can go either ways, now all the engines have been exhausted except watchlist exit. Upon annoucement, big players will dump shares to those who rush in buying. Be careful.
 

dontbeconned      ( Date: 05-Sep-2021 10:25) Posted:

key catalysts for price up trend
&bull Exiting from the SGX watch-list.   Ticked YES
&bull Exponential revenue and earnings growth from Season Global Ticked yes
&bull Further expansion of aquaculture businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has
accelerated the demand for many major cities to build their own food supplies. This could
open up more opportunities for Oceanus to deploy its foodtech hubs which utilise high-tech
and vertical farming in key cities across China, ASEAN and the Middle East. Ticked yes
 
There were comments about Fed taperwing QE resulting interest rate spikes. Let me assure you it will affect drastically   the high valued stocks with high dividend yields.   Why because of the big capital outlay . You can put in the bank to earn higher interest unless dividend yields urpass the interst earned. 
It will affect minimally  Penny stocks like Oceanus   why. As long as Oceanus is fundamentally viable, It will enhance investing in Oceanus because of low capital outlay and the returns from your investment will outweigh you putting the meagre amount in the bank. There will be shift of focus to penny stock with good potential and fundamental.


 
 
ckmpd1
    06-Sep-2021 09:21  
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yesyesyes

dontbeconned      ( Date: 06-Sep-2021 08:55) Posted:

Why oceanus price did not move despite good results and why   we should relook at Oceanus
Key Points
Investors were left disappointed by SGXRegco approval for exit watch list.
Many   investors were   badly mauled by the recent pump and dump saga
.
The market was left unimpressed by price movement despite the Impressive   first half   earnings from Oceanus     and the stock is now down slightly its all-time peak in early of April/July .
So is now the time to take advantage of a dip and buy into a long-term growth story? Here' s what you need to know before buying Oceanus   stock.
 
Oceanus  remains on track for its medium-term aims.
The company' s underlying performance remains impressive.
Oceanus has a team of creditable independent director and board of directors.
There was no contemplation to move from main board to Catalist.  

 
 
dontbeconned
    06-Sep-2021 08:55  
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Why oceanus price did not move despite good results and why   we should relook at Oceanus
Key Points
Investors were left disappointed by SGXRegco approval for exit watch list.
Many   investors were   badly mauled by the recent pump and dump saga
.
The market was left unimpressed by price movement despite the Impressive   first half   earnings from Oceanus     and the stock is now down slightly its all-time peak in early of April/July .
So is now the time to take advantage of a dip and buy into a long-term growth story? Here' s what you need to know before buying Oceanus   stock.
 
Oceanus  remains on track for its medium-term aims.
The company' s underlying performance remains impressive.
Oceanus has a team of creditable independent director and board of directors.
There was no contemplation to move from main board to Catalist.  
 

 
AlaFun
    05-Sep-2021 22:02  
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Thanks for your reminder. These are exactly the downward trend.

Exiting watchlist - will be a short spike and trap all buyers.

Revenue and earning growth from Season Global - 1H 2021 results very good? price no move, all people wait until April 2022 for whole year annoucement? Price can not be supported from now to April, only going down. Plus, 2021 whole year will be a lot of uncertainty in terms of financial performance.

Further expansion of tech oriented aquaculture businesses - no major progress, and no big impact on financials

Consoliation can go either ways, now all the engines have been exhausted except watchlist exit. Upon annoucement, big players will dump shares to those who rush in buying. Be careful.
 

dontbeconned      ( Date: 05-Sep-2021 10:25) Posted:

key catalysts for price up trend
&bull Exiting from the SGX watch-list.   Ticked YES
&bull Exponential revenue and earnings growth from Season Global Ticked yes
&bull Further expansion of aquaculture businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has
accelerated the demand for many major cities to build their own food supplies. This could
open up more opportunities for Oceanus to deploy its foodtech hubs which utilise high-tech
and vertical farming in key cities across China, ASEAN and the Middle East. Ticked yes
 
There were comments about Fed taperwing QE resulting interest rate spikes. Let me assure you it will affect drastically   the high valued stocks with high dividend yields.   Why because of the big capital outlay . You can put in the bank to earn higher interest unless dividend yields urpass the interst earned. 
It will affect minimally  Penny stocks like Oceanus   why. As long as Oceanus is fundamentally viable, It will enhance investing in Oceanus because of low capital outlay and the returns from your investment will outweigh you putting the meagre amount in the bank. There will be shift of focus to penny stock with good potential and fundamental.

 
 
dontbeconned
    05-Sep-2021 10:25  
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key catalysts for price up trend
&bull Exiting from the SGX watch-list.   Ticked YES
&bull Exponential revenue and earnings growth from Season Global Ticked yes
&bull Further expansion of aquaculture businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has
accelerated the demand for many major cities to build their own food supplies. This could
open up more opportunities for Oceanus to deploy its foodtech hubs which utilise high-tech
and vertical farming in key cities across China, ASEAN and the Middle East. Ticked yes
 
There were comments about Fed taperwing QE resulting interest rate spikes. Let me assure you it will affect drastically   the high valued stocks with high dividend yields.   Why because of the big capital outlay . You can put in the bank to earn higher interest unless dividend yields urpass the interst earned. 
It will affect minimally  Penny stocks like Oceanus   why. As long as Oceanus is fundamentally viable, It will enhance investing in Oceanus because of low capital outlay and the returns from your investment will outweigh you putting the meagre amount in the bank. There will be shift of focus to penny stock with good potential and fundamental.
 
 
dontbeconned
    05-Sep-2021 09:28  
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I reproduce  an  extract of an    impartial article written by   UOB kay Hian   dated 20th January2021. I urge retail investors like us   to do your own diligence . As of now, the factors highlighted     are still applicable if   not enhanced. . Nothing had changed in the modus operandi of Oceanus. The recent sparkling result enhanced and revalidated the points highlighted.     Follow the trend, the trend is your friend.  Don&rsquo t follow the nays Sayers.
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  The recent setting up of Season Global will enable Oceanus to
attract MNC brands and expand its China distribution business in a big way. Oceanus
targets to build a foodtech company and to become a regional player.
&bull New CEO, stronger shareholder and joining of a reputable independent director
Listed on the SGX since 2002, Oceanus Group (Oceanus) started as an abalone
producer.
In 2014, Oceanus experienced financial difficulties due to poor management and
industry challenges. Current CEO Peter Koh was a shareholder before he joined Oceanus
at end-14. Peter has driven a strong turnaround as promised by growing revenue
significantly, and he now aims to take Oceanus to a higher level with his wide business
connection and management track record. The key initiatives undertaken by Peter include:
a) cost cutting in Dec 14 b) clean-up operations in 2016 and c) strengthen the balance
sheet in 2017 after reducing its debt to zero. Alacrity Investment Group (Alacrity) became
Oceanus&rsquo largest shareholder in mid-20 after taking over the stake from a creditor group.
Alacrity is an investment arm of an Indonesia conglomerate that has interest in the retail
and logistics sector. It has long-term plans to help Oceanus expand its presence in the
aquaculture chain. In late-20, former minister Yaacob Ibrahim joined Oceanus as an
independent director, and this could strengthen corporate governance and show better
confidence in the company.
&bull Season Global will penetrate China and deliver exponential growth. Oceanus&rsquo s 3Q20
revenue of Rmb135m has grown more than sixfold yoy, thanks to its strategy in building
the distribution business via the setting up of Season Global since Jan 20. The JV partner
is a China FMCG conglomerate which has around 40 years of track record, more than
1,000 stock keep units from foodstuffs to alcohol and generates around S$200m revenue.
Oceanus and the JV partner have invested S$20m, and significant growth is expected with
the opening up of markets and set-up of the e-commerce trading platform.
&bull Targets to expand high-tech farming with regional presence. Oceanus envisions the
2021-23 period to be its tech-up phase. COVID-19 has accelerated the demand for many
major cities to build their own food supplies as a contingency plan. This has opened up
many JV opportunities in the ASEAN, China and the Middle East regions. To achieve its
goal of building a foodtech company with regional presence, Oceanus aims to establish
intellectual properties, build a network of key partners and embark on a global deployment
of Oceanus foodtech hubs. In Sep 20, Oceanus invested an undisclosed amount in
Universal Aquaculture, which has developed a novel shrimp farming facility in Singapore.
This could help develop in-house technology with a low capex business model. In Nov 20,
Oceanus signed an agreement with Hainan Raffles Group to set up the world&rsquo s first
Oceanus foodtech Hub in Hainan, China, a key aquaculture centre for shrimp and fish
farming in the region.
 
Near-term key catalysts include:
&bull Exiting from the SGX watch-list. Based on the profitability of Rmb6.1m achieved in
9M20, Oceanus is on track to fulfil the condition to exit from the SGX watch-list. In Jan 21,
Oceanus announced that it is no longer in the SGX list that requires mandatory quarterly
financial reporting. This is an upgrade of confidence from SGX as it is loosening its
reporting requirement for Oceanus.
&bull Exponential revenue and earnings growth from Season Global. Since establishing
Season Global JV in Jan 20, the revenue and net profit of Oceanus has grown
significantly. In 3Q20, Oceanus&rsquo revenue grew by 626% yoy (+276% qoq) and net profit
made a turnaround to Rmb2.5m from a loss of Rmb1.4m earlier. Oceanus expects this
distribution division to drive significant growth with the opening up of more markets,
especially in China.
&bull Further expansion of aquaculture businesses. The COVID-19 pandemic has
accelerated the demand for many major cities to build their own food supplies. This could
open up more opportunities for Oceanus to deploy its foodtech hubs which utilise high-tech
and vertical farming in key cities across China, ASEAN and the Middle East.
 
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Lightyear
    04-Sep-2021 19:53  
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Dun say I rude. U made a challenge and if never stick with it. So can i call you dishonest ? No one suggested .. you list the challenge yourself...

kiattttt      ( Date: 03-Sep-2021 20:23) Posted:

Then what' s there for me? U talk until so rude somemore 

Lightyear      ( Date: 03-Sep-2021 20:15) Posted:

U cannot see. U must declare a stock and we watch it versus Oceanus .. u want to back out now


 
 
kiattttt
    03-Sep-2021 23:28  
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Also, Oceanus have almost the same market cap as Frencken. Frencken is certainly a semi conductor/tech growth stock. Revenue and profit is through the roof and is projected to earn more. IF today i am forced to put my money between Frencken or Oceanus, i will 100% put it on Frencken. Frencken have a much higher possibility to hit 2B market cap compared to Oceanus. Like it or not this is the truth. My point is right now there are so many other stocks that can possibly outperformed Oceanus so why choose something that is way way way way overvalued? 

kiattttt      ( Date: 03-Sep-2021 23:19) Posted:

This i truly agree with u as well. In fact, let' s ignore PE at the moment. Especially for growth stock and in this case. there is certain kind of tech behind it as well. PE is irrelevant. However this stock has gained more than 1000%/10x from 0.003. How much more do u think this can go up? If today this is at 0.01, i will certainly be very bullish about this stock.

Wanderer_JCHP      ( Date: 03-Sep-2021 22:57) Posted:

Understand that you have done your own research and have come up with a conclusion for Oceanus intrinsic value. However, some growth stocks do surpass their intrinsic value, maybe even more than 50% of the times. Time in the market is better than timing the market.


 
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