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Flyordie
    20-Nov-2013 11:13  
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Henry$$$
    19-Nov-2013 14:45  
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It is a monopoly business. Don't miss it
 
 
sun233
    19-Nov-2013 14:44  
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Hey flyordie, what with the elephants. Are they cheering or kicking their own balls!
 

 
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    19-Nov-2013 14:00  
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gykgyk1
    19-Nov-2013 11:15  
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any expert here can help to clarify :

how can HPHT who  is PE > 20 ( earning < 5% per year ) able to give > 7.5% dividend ( paying more than they earn every year )??    They must be drawing from their cash reserve to pay dividend, but how long will this cash reserve last since they have drawn for nearly 2 years already since IPO ?    Without this cash reserve , will the dividend ended up around 3% per year since they have to retain certain money for future  growth ? 
 
 
sun233
    19-Nov-2013 10:58  
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Thanks Georgie for div date.FEB.Also next earnings annoucement is only in April. Any finacing requirement will be announced then..........not before div date right? Georgie your input pls. 

sun233      ( Date: 19-Nov-2013 10:50) Posted:



Those who bought at IPO are crying foul. Tough luck.  U win some u lose some!

  Good yield at current price of  below 0.70 cents. Financing in 2014! Old man will manage as he always does. Temasek bought in at $0.73 on the 12 of NOV. U decide. Short term challenging but since  Singapore trade numbers came out good.........doesnt it tell you something. Ports are a buzzing again.    With holidays around the corner  trade might pick up.

  Due your own DD and good luck.

  By the way dividend  will be in  Feb right? Anyone knows?

 

 
sun233
    19-Nov-2013 10:50  
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Those who bought at IPO are crying foul. Tough luck.  U win some u lose some!

  Good yield at current price of  below 0.70 cents. Financing in 2014! Old man will manage as he always does. Temasek bought in at $0.73 on the 12 of NOV. U decide. Short term challenging but since  Singapore trade numbers came out good.........doesnt it tell you something. Ports are a buzzing again.    With holidays around the corner  trade might pick up.

  Due your own DD and good luck.

  By the way dividend  will be in  Feb right? Anyone knows?
 
 
NoMoney
    18-Nov-2013 22:06  
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i dump this share liao getting bored of it already max hit only USD$0.86 rather throw into other counter like cosco and vard where i can gain back my lost.... bought this at IPO price so not worth for me

haroujf      ( Date: 18-Nov-2013 21:56) Posted:

Not sure how you guys look at this counter. For me I think that a potential up side of 10-15 percent capital gain exist in the short term. Taking into consideration of the support point at 0.85 (sgd), and it's fair value. I think its worth a bet. Hence I I took the plunge. However strict stop loss must be done and not forgetting the huge amount of debt going to due coming 2014. It will be a a challenge for hph to refinance.

Side track, based on this I manage to punt abit on noble group when they fall to all time low at 0.79 last month and subsequently rally up.that was the time when ppl are crying out loud to avoid noble and all says it will hit 50 cents to 60 cents zone.


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haroujf
    18-Nov-2013 21:56  
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Not sure how you guys look at this counter. For me I think that a potential up side of 10-15 percent capital gain exist in the short term. Taking into consideration of the support point at 0.85 (sgd), and it's fair value. I think its worth a bet. Hence I I took the plunge. However strict stop loss must be done and not forgetting the huge amount of debt going to due coming 2014. It will be a a challenge for hph to refinance.

Side track, based on this I manage to punt abit on noble group when they fall to all time low at 0.79 last month and subsequently rally up.that was the time when ppl are crying out loud to avoid noble and all says it will hit 50 cents to 60 cents zone.


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junction
    17-Nov-2013 10:04  
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Well done Starlene.  I share your sentiment but at below US0.70 with very high yield, I cannot resist going in.  It may go down a bit more but it may also move up if world trade picks up.

starlene      ( Date: 16-Nov-2013 20:47) Posted:



Avoid Li Ka Shing counters at all cost..

 
I bought at ipo & trying to get rid of it. Only haven't had the time to calculate if the dividends have covered my loss.
I dun have the do the maths to tell me no. 

1) 19 Sep 2013 010113 - 300613 HKD 0.187 = USS$0.02411
2) 26 Mar 2013 010712 - 311212 HKD 0.2719 = USS$0.03505
3) 21 Sep 2012 010112 - 300612 HKD 0.2405 = USS$0.03101
4) 29 Mar 2012 010711 - 311211 HKD 0.234 = USS$0.03014
5) 22 Sep 2011 180311 - 300611 HKD 0.143 = USD$0.01834

Above based on the actual forex conversion. So total distributions per share = USD$0.13865

IPO: USD 1.01
Today close: USD 0.73
Add total distributions = USD 0.86865
Loss = USD$0.14135

So there you have it. If they continue with the current rate of distributions, and provided the price remain at current level, you will probably break even in around 2 yrs. 


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sun233
    15-Nov-2013 15:11  
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Exchange rates gains or losses. Depending on holding power! 

haroujf      ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 15:04) Posted:

any difference if i buy the SGD instead of the USD?

 
 
haroujf
    15-Nov-2013 15:04  
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any difference if i buy the SGD instead of the USD?
 
 
Flyordie
    15-Nov-2013 11:01  
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sun233
    15-Nov-2013 09:56  
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I hv noticed it takes a few days for news to filter down. Capital investment sold off at 0.73 but market only reacted 3 days later. Go figure. Two funds sold off then Temasek bought. Check out date Temasek bought! 52 Week low. Do yr own DD. I comfortable so i buy.

danytan      ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 09:52) Posted:

Temasek bought but drop

 
 
danytan
    15-Nov-2013 09:52  
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Temasek bought but drop
 

 
sun233
    15-Nov-2013 09:42  
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http://www.hphtrust.com/  Check it out. U can also check sgx.com. Cheers!

NoMoney      ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 09:35) Posted:

guys how to see who is holding hph or other share

sun233      ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 09:12) Posted:

Temasek increased holdings... Time to buy.


 
 
NoMoney
    15-Nov-2013 09:35  
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guys how to see who is holding hph or other share

sun233      ( Date: 15-Nov-2013 09:12) Posted:

Temasek increased holdings... Time to buy.

 
 
sun233
    15-Nov-2013 09:12  
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Temasek increased holdings... Time to buy.
 
 
NoMoney
    14-Nov-2013 18:58  
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their dividend pay date ma.. next one around Feb

danytan      ( Date: 14-Nov-2013 13:42) Posted:

What n when was the dividend again?

NoMoney      ( Date: 11-Sep-2013 06:29) Posted:

dividen coming in =) $$$.. some Bb must wake this gaint up...


 
 
danytan
    14-Nov-2013 13:42  
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What n when was the dividend again?

NoMoney      ( Date: 11-Sep-2013 06:29) Posted:

dividen coming in =) $$$.. some Bb must wake this gaint up...

Flyordie      ( Date: 10-Sep-2013 18:23) Posted:

Quietly...Slowly...Steadily....


 
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