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double.innuneko
    24-Jun-2021 23:53  
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Is 1.50 a good price to get in?
 
 
AttasBoss
    24-Jun-2021 18:43  
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149,900 shares@$1.48 share by back today
 
 
choonoohc
    24-Jun-2021 07:35  
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23 Jun 2021 - After one day break on 22Jun, share buyback continues.
 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
21-Jun-21         359,000         496,592                     1.38
23-Jun-21         200,000         290,745                     1.45
       
Total :   2,432,800   2,513,734                     1.03
 

 
lsyiat
    23-Jun-2021 18:02  
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Company shares buyback 200,000units at SGD 1.45 today, still considered cheap to hold it
 
 
choonoohc
    22-Jun-2021 16:48  
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Repeat an earlier post for convenience for all

If analysts start covering The Hour Glass, what could valuations look like?

Perhaps:
  1. FY2021 underlying earnings = S$92M (with adding back of S$10M fair value loss on investment properties)
  2. But investing/valuation should be  about one' s belief about where the company will be in the future
  3. So assuming 3% earnings growth per year, Year10 net profit would be S$124M, average net profit over 10 years would be ~S$110M (for a round number)
  4. As an owner, THG would earn me on average S$110M per year for next 10 years
  5. Ascribing 15X PE to S$110M = the business has a value of = S$1,650M
  6. Why 15X? I don feel that one should use 15X when one is considering to BUY (margin of safety considerations). But I don think that one should sell unless it reaches at least 15X (let a good business/investment compound and enjoy the ride  considerations)
  7. Adding net cash of ~S$140M (as at Mar2021) to S$1,650M = the company is worth = S$1,800M    (for a round number)
  8. I do not add the value of THG' s investment properties because THG does not have a intention to realise their value through selling them, rather THG would likely covert them into boutiques for its core business.
  9. S$1,800M divide by 704M shares = $2.50 per share.


AttasBoss      ( Date: 22-Jun-2021 13:48) Posted:

what is the reason rising?

 
 
lsyiat
    22-Jun-2021 16:19  
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The company is severely undervalued and a large number of stock buyback

AttasBoss      ( Date: 22-Jun-2021 13:48) Posted:

what is the reason rising?

 

 
AttasBoss
    22-Jun-2021 13:48  
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what is the reason rising?
 
 
muifan
    22-Jun-2021 11:05  
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Corporate news coming ?
 
 
lsyiat
    22-Jun-2021 10:10  
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Thank you for your update. With the recent company share buyback, I am more confident that the stock price will rise again in the short term

choonoohc      ( Date: 21-Jun-2021 19:22) Posted:

21 Jun 2021 - The Hour Glass continues to buy back shares from the market.

Disclaimer: while care has been taken to present accurate data, DYODD and refer to below at your own risk.

Total amount spent to date ~S$2M not significant relative to net cash of S$143M as at 31Mar2021 and dividend payout of ~S$40M for FY2021 ($0.06/share). 

 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
21-Jun-21         359,000         496,592                     1.38
       
Total :   2,232,800   2,222,988                     1.00

 
 
choonoohc
    21-Jun-2021 19:22  
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21 Jun 2021 - The Hour Glass continues to buy back shares from the market.

Disclaimer: while care has been taken to present accurate data, DYODD and refer to below at your own risk.

Total amount spent to date ~S$2M not significant relative to net cash of S$143M as at 31Mar2021 and dividend payout of ~S$40M for FY2021 ($0.06/share). 

 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
21-Jun-21         359,000         496,592                     1.38
       
Total :   2,232,800   2,222,988                     1.00
 

 
muifan
    21-Jun-2021 17:33  
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wow got funds interested in THG?
 
 
muifan
    21-Jun-2021 09:28  
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Thanks for tabulating,
this is also telling me more buybacks to be expected since the net cash is so huge..
 

choonoohc      ( Date: 19-Jun-2021 12:03) Posted:

Tabulating share buybacks made by the company to-date (Disclaimer: while care has been taken to present accurate data, DYODD and refer to below at your own risk).

Total amount spent to date ~S$2M not significant relative to net cash of S$143M as at 31Mar2021 and dividend payout of ~S$40M for FY2021 ($0.06/share). 
 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
       
Total :   1,873,800   1,726,397                     0.92

 
 
lsyiat
    21-Jun-2021 09:20  
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When the company starts to buy back its own company stock, it means that the current price is too cheap. DYODD

choonoohc      ( Date: 19-Jun-2021 12:03) Posted:

Tabulating share buybacks made by the company to-date (Disclaimer: while care has been taken to present accurate data, DYODD and refer to below at your own risk).

Total amount spent to date ~S$2M not significant relative to net cash of S$143M as at 31Mar2021 and dividend payout of ~S$40M for FY2021 ($0.06/share). 
 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
       
Total :   1,873,800   1,726,397                     0.92

 
 
choonoohc
    19-Jun-2021 12:03  
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Tabulating share buybacks made by the company to-date (Disclaimer: while care has been taken to present accurate data, DYODD and refer to below at your own risk).

Total amount spent to date ~S$2M not significant relative to net cash of S$143M as at 31Mar2021 and dividend payout of ~S$40M for FY2021 ($0.06/share). 
 
Date   No. Shares    S$    S$/share 
14-Feb-20             20,000             15,490                     0.77
17-Feb-20             10,000                 7,770                     0.78
19-Mar-20         600,000         342,500                     0.57
20-Mar-20         390,000         218,910                     0.56
23-Mar-20             10,000                 5,615                     0.56
16-Jun-21         427,300         567,588                     1.33
17-Jun-21         316,500         430,169                     1.36
18-Jun-21         100,000         138,355                     1.38
       
Total :   1,873,800   1,726,397                     0.92
 
 
lsyiat
    18-Jun-2021 09:41  
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I believe the company will repurchase its shares again today

muifan      ( Date: 18-Jun-2021 08:33) Posted:

2 days of share buy back at higher and highe price
tell me something is brewing...
it shows the " urgency"

 

 
muifan
    18-Jun-2021 08:33  
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2 days of share buy back at higher and highe price
tell me something is brewing...
it shows the " urgency"
 
 
choonoohc
    18-Jun-2021 08:16  
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RichardTeo

Why producers leave " a commission cut" to middlemen ?  Sell directly they can have more margins.
Why Sentosa does not operate casino itself, but leave a " commissionn cut" to Genting?
Why Changi Airport does not do groundhandling itself, but leave a " commissionn cut" to SATS?
Why ComfortDelgro does not hire taxi drives as employees, but leave a " commissionn cut" to drivers?
Why brandes does not sell to consumers directly, but  leave a " commissionn cut" to Dairy Farm?
Becasuse focusing on what one does best gives the highest return. Investing $100 to set up boutiques may not earn as much as investing $100 to expand your watch factory.


And the way you analyze the 3% every year 15X PE etc is quite naive to me.
Thats precisely the point. If even a naive, simple, conservative analysis can prove that the room for upside is huge, then there is very high chance there is indeed $ lying in the corner, and one just have to go pick it up.

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choonoohc
    17-Jun-2021 19:41  
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Since the buyback is taking place at about $1.35, it means the Board is saying that the Company is worth at least $1.35.

Thus should there be any takeover/privatisation attempt in the near future, the Board would not be in a position to accept anything lower than $1.35.

This buyback thus provides a minimum price level for any  takeover/privatisation attempt in the near term.
 
 
lsyiat
    17-Jun-2021 19:31  
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Shares buy back again today
 
 
lsyiat
    17-Jun-2021 16:30  
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This is company share buyback,  not personal or specific to someone
 
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