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SengTan
    05-Jun-2021 22:42  
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Quote from Stockopedia :  FINANCIAL BRIEF:  : For the fiscal year ended 31 December 2020, Aspen(Group) Holdings Ltd revenues decreased 2% to RM282.8M. Netincome increased from RM18.7M to RM72.7M. Revenues reflecta decrease in demand for the Company' s products andservices due to unfavorable market conditions. Net incomereflects Equity Earnings &ndash Net of Income Tax increase fromRM1.3M to RM61.5M (income), Interest Capitalized increaseof 65% to RM28.1M (income).    How is this ? 
 
 
fwt1967
    05-Jun-2021 14:18  
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So obvious , it is under the close scrutiny of SGX now !
 
 
Checkerman
    05-Jun-2021 12:03  
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Their credibility And trust is a big question mark

Trade at own risk


LongNobley      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 01:21) Posted:

Haha. You still trust this management? Firstly, Didn' t they say the deal with Honeywell is confirmed, share price rallied the next day, then 2 weeks later, they announce the deal is off because no one signs any contract?

Secondly, this latest announcement says it' s in nego with a few potential buyers of it' s gloves. Let me ask you, who are these buyers? Are they confirmed? Can they turn out to be like Honeywell, be so dillusional that they thought people want to buy their smelly gloves, but turned out to be to be no deal case again. Lastly, what this meant was that Honeywell is walking off the table and has no interest in buying the gloves at all. Hence they have to look for other parties to buy. Big big negative. They only build this facility in the first place because Honeywell wants their gloves. Now their big buyer don' t want, they are in trouble.

Lastly, don' t be too happy yet the COO resignation has nothing to do with Honeywell. Are they so stupid to tell the whole world that their main guy is quitting because of the Honeywell issue? Don' t forget, SGX Regco is still breathing under Aspen' s neck to find out more about their misguided announcements of the contract win with Honeywell. If they say the COO regisnation has something to do with Honeywell, they will be digging a bigger hole for themselves and kick starting more investigations proceedings. 

Think think think.

sklong138      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:34) Posted:

Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.


 

 
Checkerman
    05-Jun-2021 12:01  
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Aspen is a gone case . Better stay away to potential investors . Wonder why SGX allow them to come on board

The ex director must be worry that is why he choose to resign

booboobear      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 09:49) Posted:

Have they started to deliver the batch of gloves as planned? What about the initial contract of usd100m? Is this affected? Based on what is disclosed publicly so far, I fear Management is just stalling for time. No buy / sell opinion, but just really quite absurd Management has let their missteps and errors ruin the names of ppl involved. Think Ching, CMY, Iskandar etc...How will they regain credibility, not to mention investors confidence...

 
 
commando
    05-Jun-2021 09:59  
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Credible investors

booboobear      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 09:49) Posted:

Have they started to deliver the batch of gloves as planned? What about the initial contract of usd100m? Is this affected? Based on what is disclosed publicly so far, I fear Management is just stalling for time. No buy / sell opinion, but just really quite absurd Management has let their missteps and errors ruin the names of ppl involved. Think Ching, CMY, Iskandar etc...How will they regain credibility, not to mention investors confidence...

 
 
booboobear
    05-Jun-2021 09:49  
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Have they started to deliver the batch of gloves as planned? What about the initial contract of usd100m? Is this affected? Based on what is disclosed publicly so far, I fear Management is just stalling for time. No buy / sell opinion, but just really quite absurd Management has let their missteps and errors ruin the names of ppl involved. Think Ching, CMY, Iskandar etc...How will they regain credibility, not to mention investors confidence...
 

 
Integrity
    05-Jun-2021 09:41  
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Not only investors will shy away, i believe potential clients will also be extremely cautious when dealing with them. HW must have their reasonable doubts for walking away from the deal.
 
 
Blowyouoff
    05-Jun-2021 03:18  
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I am shock with your statement:
  If you own Top Glove - will you supply to HW and ship the goods to US?'
FYI, TG does supply to US... you are a big joker... and it also goes to show you not aware Top Gloves is also listed on US Stock!

' but investors should not question the proceedings in public' .. is there a proceedings????

Ok ' some' and not ' most' if this makes you happier..

all the best in the coming Monday...

NT1825      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 02:59) Posted:

If you own Top Glove - will you supply to HW and ship the goods to US? 

For me, Aspen has made submitted their clarifications, at the official request of SGX. It is sufficiently clear and I thrust SGX work  Whether or not investors want to believe it is their own decision,  but investors should not question the proceedings in public.

I disagree with your post ' can tell most having doubts' because this statement implies you are representing many people. Are you?

 

Blowyouoff      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 02:05) Posted:

You sounded as if you know HW is the one at fault? Would they have clarified if not for query by SGX?

Did HW announce it is making a purchase? The so call misinterpretation is on the part of aspen.   How often you have   a company making announcement without having a signed contract and purely base on email correspondence? And this is by no mean a small amount of contract 

Now other buyers might be more caution in planing an order with aspen.. from the announcement, one can tell that   from april until now, aspen still hasn' t found a replacement buyer despite covid-19 situation hasn' t improved much 

this whole thingy doesn' t reflect well on aspen and one cannot deny this. If one is still in denial, it goes to show how disillusion one i


 
 
NT1825
    05-Jun-2021 02:59  
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If you own Top Glove - will you supply to HW and ship the goods to US? 

For me, Aspen has made submitted their clarifications, at the official request of SGX. It is sufficiently clear and I thrust SGX work  Whether or not investors want to believe it is their own decision,  but investors should not question the proceedings in public.

I disagree with your post ' can tell most having doubts' because this statement implies you are representing many people. Are you?

 

Blowyouoff      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 02:05) Posted:

You sounded as if you know HW is the one at fault? Would they have clarified if not for query by SGX?

Did HW announce it is making a purchase? The so call misinterpretation is on the part of aspen.   How often you have   a company making announcement without having a signed contract and purely base on email correspondence? And this is by no mean a small amount of contract 

Now other buyers might be more caution in planing an order with aspen.. from the announcement, one can tell that   from april until now, aspen still hasn' t found a replacement buyer despite covid-19 situation hasn' t improved much 

this whole thingy doesn' t reflect well on aspen and one cannot deny this. If one is still in denial, it goes to show how disillusion one is

NT1825      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 01:43) Posted:



I beg to disagree, sorry. The reply to SGX provided clarity to the state of the contract. It is important for investors to know enough and move on - does not matter whether the buyer is HW or not - mistakes have been done with sincere clarifications, lessons learnt, more importantly business must move on.

The one looking bad is not Aspen but you know who.

HW can source for their needs from other countries like India or China. Other suppliers may be willing to supply but they will know what to do this time.
 


 
 
LuckyCharm_SMS
    05-Jun-2021 02:46  
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The share price has already came down to below pre honeywell announcement. Now it is time to wait for the next positive announcements. Two months of phase 1a gloves manufactured for 1H 2021. Can expect reasonably good profits. Also 3 of their property development projects launching. Any asset revaluation would be in play again?
 

 
Blowyouoff
    05-Jun-2021 02:05  
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You sounded as if you know HW is the one at fault? Would they have clarified if not for query by SGX?

Did HW announce it is making a purchase? The so call misinterpretation is on the part of aspen.   How often you have   a company making announcement without having a signed contract and purely base on email correspondence? And this is by no mean a small amount of contract 

Now other buyers might be more caution in planing an order with aspen.. from the announcement, one can tell that   from april until now, aspen still hasn' t found a replacement buyer despite covid-19 situation hasn' t improved much 

this whole thingy doesn' t reflect well on aspen and one cannot deny this. If one is still in denial, it goes to show how disillusion one is

NT1825      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 01:43) Posted:



I beg to disagree, sorry. The reply to SGX provided clarity to the state of the contract. It is important for investors to know enough and move on - does not matter whether the buyer is HW or not - mistakes have been done with sincere clarifications, lessons learnt, more importantly business must move on.

The one looking bad is not Aspen but you know who.

HW can source for their needs from other countries like India or China. Other suppliers may be willing to supply but they will know what to do this time.
 

Blowyouoff      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 01:09) Posted:

It really depends on investors still believe in all these after all the happenings.. can tell most having doubts 


 
 
NT1825
    05-Jun-2021 01:43  
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I beg to disagree, sorry. The reply to SGX provided clarity to the state of the contract. It is important for investors to know enough and move on - does not matter whether the buyer is HW or not - mistakes have been done with sincere clarifications, lessons learnt, more importantly business must move on.

The one looking bad is not Aspen but you know who.

HW can source for their needs from other countries like India or China. Other suppliers may be willing to supply but they will know what to do this time.
 

Blowyouoff      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 01:09) Posted:

It really depends on investors still believe in all these after all the happenings.. can tell most having doubts 

sklong138      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:34) Posted:

Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.


 
 
LongNobley
    05-Jun-2021 01:21  
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Haha. You still trust this management? Firstly, Didn' t they say the deal with Honeywell is confirmed, share price rallied the next day, then 2 weeks later, they announce the deal is off because no one signs any contract?

Secondly, this latest announcement says it' s in nego with a few potential buyers of it' s gloves. Let me ask you, who are these buyers? Are they confirmed? Can they turn out to be like Honeywell, be so dillusional that they thought people want to buy their smelly gloves, but turned out to be to be no deal case again. Lastly, what this meant was that Honeywell is walking off the table and has no interest in buying the gloves at all. Hence they have to look for other parties to buy. Big big negative. They only build this facility in the first place because Honeywell wants their gloves. Now their big buyer don' t want, they are in trouble.

Lastly, don' t be too happy yet the COO resignation has nothing to do with Honeywell. Are they so stupid to tell the whole world that their main guy is quitting because of the Honeywell issue? Don' t forget, SGX Regco is still breathing under Aspen' s neck to find out more about their misguided announcements of the contract win with Honeywell. If they say the COO regisnation has something to do with Honeywell, they will be digging a bigger hole for themselves and kick starting more investigations proceedings. 

Think think think.

sklong138      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:34) Posted:

Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.

NT1825      ( Date: 31-May-2021 23:29) Posted:

Thanks. 

Strong bid volume since this morning, anticipating. At close Bid Volume still in queue 2.6 mil  yesyes

Let' s watch tmr. Cheers


 
 
Blowyouoff
    05-Jun-2021 01:09  
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It really depends on investors still believe in all these after all the happenings.. can tell most having doubts 

sklong138      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:34) Posted:

Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.

NT1825      ( Date: 31-May-2021 23:29) Posted:

Thanks. 

Strong bid volume since this morning, anticipating. At close Bid Volume still in queue 2.6 mil  yesyes

Let' s watch tmr. Cheers


 
 
holkkiee
    05-Jun-2021 00:56  
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Lol

sklong138      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:34) Posted:

Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.

NT1825      ( Date: 31-May-2021 23:29) Posted:

Thanks. 

Strong bid volume since this morning, anticipating. At close Bid Volume still in queue 2.6 mil  yesyes

Let' s watch tmr. Cheers


 

 
sklong138
    05-Jun-2021 00:34  
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Aspen has confirmed that currently they are in negotiations with potential buyers for the entire off take of phase 1 b production capacity which part of it is supposed to be supplied to Honeywell which sounds positive. Furthermore, Aspen also clarified that the resignation of Chief Operating Officer has nothing to do with Honeywell contract. It is good to clear the air and move on. This is indeed a blessing in disguise which is good for Aspen to focus on their current order and to do it well . Will load more on Monday.. Cheers.

NT1825      ( Date: 31-May-2021 23:29) Posted:

Thanks. 

Strong bid volume since this morning, anticipating. At close Bid Volume still in queue 2.6 mil  yesyes

Let' s watch tmr. Cheers

 
 
LongNobley
    05-Jun-2021 00:17  
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The key words here in the announcements are " Aspen is looking for buyers of it' s gloves that was meant for Honeywell" . Meaning to say Honeywell deal is OFF, or rather, maybe it' s never ON in the first place.

Smelly smelly Malaysian company

nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2021 00:14) Posted:

Companies tend to disclose good news and hide the bad news from investors.. listed companies should be more ethical than this

 
 
nqing87
    05-Jun-2021 00:14  
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Companies tend to disclose good news and hide the bad news from investors.. listed companies should be more ethical than this
 
 
Blowyouoff
    04-Jun-2021 23:41  
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Your wish granted in latest announcement...

Monday will be interesting 

Joelton      ( Date: 02-Jun-2021 09:51) Posted:

SGX RegCo should require Aspen to provide regular updates on status of Honeywell deal
 
ASPEN (Group) Holdings should be pressed by Singapore Exchange Regulation (SGX RegCo) to provide more information and colour on why its glove unit' s US$210 million supply agreement with Honeywell International has not been " consummated" .
 
SGX RegCo should also require Aspen to provide a daily update on the status of this deal to ensure that investors are not blindsided by new developments that suddenly emerge.
 
Aspen announced that its glove making unit had secured the deal with Honeywell on April 13. But it retracted the announcement on April 24.
 
Aspen said in its retraction announcement that it had executed and delivered what it believed to be the final agreement with Honeywell on April 12, and invoiced Honeywell for the first payment of US$10 million the same day.
 
Aspen understood the " effective date" of the agreement to be April 12, and believed that Honeywell' s execution of the agreement to be imminent. So, it announced the deal the following day.
 
However, Aspen' s glove making unit was subsequently notified that Honeywell had not executed the agreement on April 12.
 
Aspen said in its retraction announcement of April 24 that the agreement remains unsigned.
 
Delayed retraction
 
On April 29, in response to queries from SGX RegCo, Aspen said it became aware of the non-consummation of the agreement by Honeywell on April 14.
 
So, why did it wait until April 24 to retract its announcement of April 13?
 
Aspen said in its response to queries from SGX RegCo that it had to liaise with officials at Honeywell, to clarify the reasons why the agreement had not been executed.
 
Given the 12-hour time difference between the US and Malaysia, most of the " communication turnaround" with Honeywell took more than 24 hours, Aspen said.
 
The company went on to say that after obtaining clarification from Honeywell, it prepared the retraction announcement. But this apparently also involved input from Honeywell. " After multiple exchanges of communication between the parties, the retraction announcement was officially approved by Honeywell on 24 April 2021 and the company immediately issued the retraction announcement to SGXNet after obtaining its internal approvals on the same day," Aspen said, in its April 29 response to queries from SGX RegCo.
 
Unanswered questions
 
Leaving aside the issue of whether the 24-hour " communication turnaround" between Aspen and Honeywell could have been negated with some late-night phone calls out of Kuala Lumpur, should Aspen not have issued its retraction announcement as soon as it became aware that Honeywell had not consummated the deal - that is, on April 14?
 
What more did Aspen need to know at that point other than that its assumptions about execution of the deal by Honeywell were wrong?
 
More importantly, is it now just a matter of time before the supply agreement is signed by Honeywell? Or is the deal dead in the water?
 
Aspen has consistently given the impression that it has done everything necessary to get the supply deal going, and that the ball is now in Honeywell' s court.
 
In its April 29 responses to queries from SGX RegCo, Aspen said it had been made aware that Honeywell needed to obtain internal approvals before it could execute the agreement.
 
Aspen also stated the agreement its glove making unit executed was not subject to any " express conditions precedent" , and that Honeywell had acknowledged receipt of the document and submitted Aspen' s initial invoice for processing.
 
On the other hand, Aspen published a " business update" on May 17 that led with the progress its glove unit is making, but that made no mention of the outstanding deal with Honeywell.
 
Three days later, on May 20, Aspen announced that the chief operating officer (COO) of its glove unit has quit to pursue other interests.
 
The COO, Ng Soon Ghee, had been appointed on Sept 22 last year and was still serving his probationary period.
 
He tendered his resignation on May 16, and it was accepted on May 19. His last day is June 17.
 
Regular updates
 
Aspen should provide more information and colour on its pending deal with Honeywell for the same reason that it believed it needed to quickly announce it on April 13.
 
Known more for being a property developer, Aspen is still at the very early stages of getting its glove making operations off the ground.
 
It was only last year that the company began talking about pursuing the business as a joint venture with CMY Capital, an investment firm reportedly linked to Malaysian businessman Chua Ma Yu.
 
On top of that, its US$210 million contract with Honeywell is clearly material.
 
Aspen reported earnings of RM72.7 million on revenue of RM282.8 million for FY2020. The group ended FY2020 with shareholders' funds of nearly RM566.3 million. It currently has a market capitalisation of some S$233 million.
 
In fact, after prematurely announcing its agreement with Honeywell, Aspen should arguably provide regular updates on the deal to ensure it does not become a driver of unwarranted speculation in its shares.
 
SGX RegCo could make this happen by issuing Aspen with a " notice of compliance" requiring it to publish a statement at the beginning of every market day on the status of its deal with Honeywell, including any new steps taken by either party to get it consummated.

 
 
commando
    04-Jun-2021 10:11  
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Yah .no news yet

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