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i think is for future planning for the hyfluxshop go public to tap for money and also prove hyflux still running well.....
give free share to current nothing to lose for the company but can boost the confidence for existing shareholders as well future investors and also maintain past records that hyflux is able to give bonus or div every year
Just4win ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:21) Posted:
Yup, nothing to lose but what do they gain ?
They can don' t declare any cash div.
But who knows? Maybe instead of cash, they can also use these hyfluxshop shares to redeem the bonds too.
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:17) Posted:
| bro, if you dun hve cash to dist then print more share to give nothing to lose lo |
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Yup, nothing to lose but what do they gain ?
They can don' t declare any cash div.
But who knows? Maybe instead of cash, they can also use these hyfluxshop shares to redeem the bonds too.
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:17) Posted:
bro, if you dun hve cash to dist then print more share to give nothing to lose loh
Just4win ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:13) Posted:
That is why I am confused leh.
IF existing shareholders of Hyflux are the owners of hyfluxshop, why still need to distribute ? Only move the basket from one corner to another corner le |
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bro, if you dun hve cash to dist then print more share to give nothing to lose loh
Just4win ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:13) Posted:
That is why I am confused leh.
IF existing shareholders of Hyflux are the owners of hyfluxshop, why still need to distribute ? Only move the basket from one corner to another corner leh
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:09) Posted:
i think currently is not a good time to go public for hyfluxshop.
if am not wrong hyflux ltd own hyfluxshop so if hyflux ltd shareholders given hyfluxshop shares then hyflux ltd shareholder also hyfluxshope shareholder  .....
anyway not much value also just look at hyflux ltd' s performance how good can hyfluxshop be ? 
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regret can' t explain cos only the insider and the big funds know .....
cannot anyhow give a reason otherwise might kena sue by H management.
but guess is ...... guess not an offence : -
1. big funds sell for cash to cover other debt holes
2. cheap PS good for company cos they buy back less than face value then come to redemption they save a lot of money
grandjedi ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:08) Posted:
Can you explain why the fall in the Preference Share is so much more than the mother Hyflux share?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:34) Posted:
more like it is China/HK funds selling ...
that" s their dumb pattern - as long as not zero any price they also can dump , get back $1 they also happ |
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That is why I am confused leh.
IF existing shareholders of Hyflux are the owners of hyfluxshop, why still need to distribute ? Only move the basket from one corner to another corner leh
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 15:09) Posted:
i think currently is not a good time to go public for hyfluxshop.
if am not wrong hyflux ltd own hyfluxshop so if hyflux ltd shareholders given hyfluxshop shares then hyflux ltd shareholder also hyfluxshope shareholder .....
anyway not much value also just look at hyflux ltd' s performance how good can hyfluxshop be ?
Just4win ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:57) Posted:
Perhaps the move to list hyfluxshop is to raise $ to redeem ? Not sure how much will this generate.
BTW, sorry for asking a nerb qn... what is currently the relationship between Hyflux and hyfluxshop ?
Hyfluxshop is currently owned by who? Thot shd be hyflux, no? IF hyflux, then does it means hyfluxshop shd also belongs to existing shareholders ?
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i think currently is not a good time to go public for hyfluxshop.
if am not wrong hyflux ltd own hyfluxshop so if hyflux ltd shareholders given hyfluxshop shares then hyflux ltd shareholder also hyfluxshope shareholder
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anyway not much value also just look at hyflux ltd' s performance how good can hyfluxshop be ?
Just4win ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:57) Posted:
Perhaps the move to list hyfluxshop is to raise $ to redeem ? Not sure how much will this generate.
BTW, sorry for asking a nerb qn... what is currently the relationship between Hyflux and hyfluxshop ?
Hyfluxshop is currently owned by who? Thot shd be hyflux, no? IF hyflux, then does it means hyfluxshop shd also belongs to existing shareholders ?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:43) Posted:
give share not div ..
they where got cash to give at this moment |
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Can you explain why the fall in the Preference Share is so much more than the mother Hyflux share?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:34) Posted:
more like it is China/HK funds selling ...
that" s their dumb pattern - as long as not zero any price they also can dump , get back $1 they also happy
genting^2 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:05) Posted:
| Time to buy when there is blood in the market.. scoop! |
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Perhaps the move to list hyfluxshop is to raise $ to redeem ? Not sure how much will this generate.
BTW, sorry for asking a nerb qn... what is currently the relationship between Hyflux and hyfluxshop ?
Hyfluxshop is currently owned by who? Thot shd be hyflux, no? IF hyflux, then does it means hyfluxshop shd also belongs to existing shareholders ?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:43) Posted:
give share not div ..
they where got cash to give at this moment
triphopper ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:33) Posted:
| But she is giving Hyfluxshop dividend to Hyflux shareholders. Therefore, she has to give dividend to holders of the perpetuals. No |
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give share not div ..
they where got cash to give at this moment
triphopper ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:33) Posted:
But she is giving Hyfluxshop dividend to Hyflux shareholders. Therefore, she has to give dividend to holders of the perpetuals. No?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:19) Posted:
| if mother share dun give div then notes/bond can also dun pa |
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more like it is China/HK funds selling ...
that" s their dumb pattern - as long as not zero any price they also can dump , get back $1 they also happy
genting^2 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:05) Posted:
| Time to buy when there is blood in the market.. scoop! |
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But she is giving Hyfluxshop dividend to Hyflux shareholders. Therefore, she has to give dividend to holders of the perpetuals. No?
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 14:19) Posted:
if mother share dun give div then notes/bond can also dun pay
triphopper ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:44) Posted:
Since perpetuals rank higher than normal shares, Hyflux will need to pay the coupons for its upcoming perpetuals before it can give out dividend for Hyfluxshop.
Is this correct?
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if mother share dun give div then notes/bond can also dun pay
triphopper ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 12:44) Posted:
Since perpetuals rank higher than normal shares, Hyflux will need to pay the coupons for its upcoming perpetuals before it can give out dividend for Hyfluxshop.
Is this correct?
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Up lorry.
Since perpetuals rank higher than normal shares, Hyflux will need to pay the coupons for its upcoming perpetuals before it can give out dividend for Hyfluxshop.
Is this correct?
Time to buy when there is blood in the market.. scoop!
if the shares is in long suspension like ezion then 50% of current price also is a waste of money.
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Sure? i dont mind to buy at 50% disc off current price
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 20-Feb-2018 11:54) Posted:
who dare to buy now .....
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sell at 64 sgd or 0 when shares suspended forever like ezion??
who dare to buy except the company and those who have insider info.
hang tight
