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chengwh1 Elite	19-May-2020 02:13        chengwh1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I don' t think DBS will stop paying the obligatory coupons. But, with the current low interest rate environment,... it i not logical for it not to redeem but to extend and may need to pay a higher coupon, or perhaps commit to some other arrangements which may not be so favourable to the bank. F1nGolf      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 22:48) Posted: Callable Nov 2020. DBS can still stop the dividends payout for May and Nov 2020 and they can also don' t execise the call back. Did I get this wrong? john_ric      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 22:00) Posted: redeemable in 2020.
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john_ric Supreme	18-May-2020 20:27        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dbs  4.7% ncps  is redeemable (callable) in 2020 (SGD 800m). Anyone think dbs will redeem this, and issue a cheaper ncps??
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john_ric Supreme	04-Apr-2020 11:53        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So today com A issues 2.098% notes but don't pay. Later. Can??
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john_ric Supreme	04-Apr-2020 11:50        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yep. Any co can don't pay and no one can do anything?
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F1nGolf Member	03-Apr-2020 22:48        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Callable Nov 2020. DBS can still stop the dividends payout for May and Nov 2020 and they can also don' t execise the call back. Did I get this wrong? john_ric      ( Date: 03-Apr-2020 22:00) Posted: redeemable in 2020.
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john_ric Supreme	03-Apr-2020 22:00        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	redeemable in 2020.
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F1nGolf Member	03-Apr-2020 20:42        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Quick poll - Do you think DBS would stop the dividend for 2020?
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vivivava Veteran	26-Jul-2018 17:46        vivivava About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dbs  4.7% ncps  vs OCC 5.1% ncps, which one is a better buy?  i feel OCC5.1% is a better buy as its 101.6 currently vs 105 for DBS.    Occ i think its redeemable anytime around when dividend is payable (SGD1.5bil), while DBS is redeemable in 2020 (SGD 800m). Anyone has any thoughts here?
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gbleng Member	16-Oct-2017 14:21        gbleng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Did you consider its tier 1 status? Also do you think DBS will redeem it in 2020? pnuklis      ( Date: 16-Oct-2017 14:13) Posted: THere is no risk in premature redeemption because you sell at premium. Like I bought this on first offer and get assured return of 4.7% two times a year and the value also appriciates over time. You can sell this as a common stock in the market. These types of bonds from banks are safe bet as compared to Ezra type bonds.
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pnuklis Master	16-Oct-2017 14:13        pnuklis About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	THere is no risk in premature redeemption because you sell at premium. Like I bought this on first offer and get assured return of 4.7% two times a year and the value also appriciates over time. You can sell this as a common stock in the market. These types of bonds from banks are safe bet as compared to Ezra type bonds.
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bernardc Elite	16-Oct-2017 14:06        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	off course safe..guaranteed by dbs.. ​ whether u make money or not is the question.. ​ john_ric      ( Date: 16-Oct-2017 10:23) Posted: the price is so high. if you buy now div of 1st two years will be used to pay the share premium.  gbleng      ( Date: 15-Oct-2017 17:41) Posted: Anyone can advise if this is a safe instrument? What' s the risk of premature redemption by DBS?
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gbleng Member	16-Oct-2017 14:02        gbleng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Info from DBS website states that it is not eligible to be tier 1 capital under Basel III but is tier 1 only under " transitional arrangements" . So although the NCPS is callable in 2020, I am wondering if it can be redeemed prematurely if it loses its tier 1 status.
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john_ric Supreme	16-Oct-2017 10:23        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the price is so high. if you buy now div of 1st two years will be used to pay the share premium.  gbleng      ( Date: 15-Oct-2017 17:41) Posted: Anyone can advise if this is a safe instrument? What' s the risk of premature redemption by DBS?
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vivivava Veteran	16-Oct-2017 09:52        vivivava About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	they cannot redeem until 2020 if i am not wrong. why is dbs  priced so much higher than occ 5.1%?  i know that OCC is redeemable at every dividend date now, but the outstanding is 1.5bil and OCBC just raised 500m @3.8% in 2015....so they definitely need funds anyone having any thoughts there?
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bernardc Elite	15-Oct-2017 18:27        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	have u read the prospectus?? gbleng      ( Date: 15-Oct-2017 17:41) Posted: Anyone can advise if this is a safe instrument? What' s the risk of premature redemption by DBS?
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gbleng Member	15-Oct-2017 17:41        gbleng About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone can advise if this is a safe instrument? What' s the risk of premature redemption by DBS?
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