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luncheonmeat Member	23-Jan-2020 20:22        luncheonmeat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	anyone didn' t accept and have recieved their letter of forced acqusition?
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Ssonic06 Member	30-Dec-2019 19:46        Ssonic06 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I use cpf to puchase UE. Never receive the letter for buyback from my agent bank Ocbc. Call up OCBC who advice me to go to the bank today before 1.30 pm to sign the document . Took me quite a while to explain to them. I am wondering what if I did nothing? Is it compulsory for them to buy back at 2.70?
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cysnotts Member	30-Dec-2019 08:26        cysnotts About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Untied Engineer when will delist and will they compulsory buyback from minor shareholder like me? Appreciate advise from senior here.
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noob2019 Member	25-Dec-2019 14:31        noob2019 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks  gregtan123  and Beidou for the answers. Especially  gregtan123  for the nice informative writeup. One of my issues is that I do not even have enough information to analyse this situation and over the course of holding holding UE shares have been very fustrated by the low balling done. Especially the acquisition earlier on where they biught WBL and lowball UE making the minority sharholders suffer. So I also have an element of piss-nees and wanting ot put Yanlord in difficult posiiton. Finally I have decided to accept for 50% of what I hold and leave 50% to fate. Thoughout this whole episode, I' m sure that Yanloard would have covered all legal and regulatory grounds in its lowballing but this is a situation where I feel the regulatory framework has not adequately protected the interests of retail shareholders.
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gregtan123 Supreme	24-Dec-2019 17:43        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi Noob2019, Initially I wanted to wave white flag and give up. But hear me out, I think we should wait and observe, don' t listen to Beidou. Why? There' s a chance that UE won' t get delisted and even if they do, there will be an exit opportunity when Yanlord exercises its right to compulsorily acquire the shares from you when they hit the requirement.  Now Yanlord has 86.41% of UE. The crucial level (aka where we raise the white flag is when they hit 90% meaning now UE does not have the free float and YL won' t maintain its listing. BUT Yanlord only has 3 Trading Days: 26, 27, 30 December to get their shares. The past few days they only been averaging 0.13% which means they will not hit 90% which means UE will stay listed. Let me EXPLAIN and Justify WHY this Scenario is the Best: Yanlord and Co initially with LOW BALL 2.70 SGD offer only wanted to get MAJORITY CONTROL (51%, and i.e left hand pass to right hand) they were NOT sincere. Once they get majority control then can use UE to get WBL from them etc.  But the MARKET along with Oxley threw them a curve ball, they did NOT expect to hit above 80% and now close to the compulsory takeover. And you know why Yanlord CHANGE position because they are going to get UE at a STEAL of a price, meaning they INSTANTLY make 19.259259% of VALUATION Profits.  Note UE NAV after their recent independent valuation is 3.22 SGD.  Takeover is 2.70 SGD.  Yanlord knows they are inches AWAY from making 62 cents or 19.25959% from Retail Investors whom they know no power to fight them.  But you think about it assuming we all don' t sell and also I URGE those who sold to them (You can WITHDRAW UR ACCEPTANCE, PAY THEM BACK) to withdraw. Why? Because, assuming YL gets 87% eventually, they are STUCK in the WORST Position because (a) they cannot DELIST UE and earn 62 cents or 19.59% AND (b) they only expected 51% stake in UE but now have an ADDITIONAL 36% which is HUGE cost to them. So they are stuck. But why then should we as INVESTORS keep UE in such a situation? (a) Because put urself in Yanlord shoes, they know have 87% (not 51%) all bought at 2.70 SGD, they will have an incentive to maintain share price because each CENT drop will be extremely painful for them and Yanlord investors who will take Yanlord board to tasks   (b) Go READ UE Latest Results a few weeks ago, they have had a SUPER SUPER SUPER results which would have sent UE way above 2.70 SGD but for the stupid LOW BALL offer which range bound UE, this means ah, that there is LIKELY to be a Special Dividend (see reason (a), 87% Yanlord wants special dividend to help them). So all in, sit tight. I have 12,000 shares. My mum has 33,000 shares. We bought 2.79, took 7 cents dividedn so far. so cost price 2.72.  noob2019      ( Date: 24-Dec-2019 10:39) Posted: Hi Noob here with some UE shares. Can someone advise me to accept the 2.7 offer or wait. What rights do minority shareholders have in a delisting. Tks.
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beidou Member	24-Dec-2019 13:22        beidou About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My view is you should accept the offer and close the chapter for this counter. When it is delisted, as a minority shareholder, u will be forgotten And it will be very difficult for you to cash out later on.
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noob2019 Member	24-Dec-2019 10:39        noob2019 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi Noob here with some UE shares. Can someone advise me to accept the 2.7 offer or wait. What rights do minority shareholders have in a delisting. Tks.
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look@bright Elite	06-Dec-2019 15:24        look@bright About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	...........might as well don' t reply
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gregtan123 Supreme	06-Dec-2019 15:13        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	17 Nov Letter to ALL Relevant Parties 6 December SGX Finally replies Share to all Dear XXX,   Thank you for taking the time and effort to raise these issues with us. We have noted your concerns. Please be assured that SGX takes allegations of misconduct very seriously.    With respect to your concerns on transactions between Yanlord and the holders of the 3.14% interest in UEL shares, as these concern a takeover conducted under the Singapore Code of Take-Overs, the SIC is the appropriate regulatory entity in this regard.   We have referred the matter to the SIC for their necessary attention.   In relation to your query on the relationship between the UEL and WBL, you may refer to Yanlord&rsquo s announcement of its takeover offer for WBL, dated 16 November 2019.    We also wish to point out that all transactions between UEL, WBL and Yanlord will be interested party transactions and fall within the requirements of Chapter 9 of our Listing Manual.   Please also note that your query on Yanlord&rsquo s possible circumvention of the chain principle does not fall within the regulatory ambit of SGX RegCo. For matters relating to the Singapore Code on Take-Overs and Mergers, the SIC / MAS may be a more appropriate agency to handle your queries.   With respect to your question on protection of minority shareholders, we wish to draw your attention to some of the relevant requirements in the Listing Rules.     Listing Rule 703(1), which requires issuers to immediately disclose any information known to the issuer concerning it or its subsidiaries or associated companies which is (a) necessary to avoid the establishment of a false market in the issuer&rsquo s securities or (b) would be likely to materially affect the price or value of its securities.   The specific disclosure obligations pursuant to Listing Rule 704, Chapter 9 and Chapter 10 of the Listing Rules.   While we have broadly quoted the rules above, please note that the application of the specific rules will depend on the facts of each case.   We hope the above answers your queries.   Regards, SGX RegCo
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gregtan123 Supreme	24-Nov-2019 20:13        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just keep the share and usual trading. I am not accepting but I think it will fall below 2.70 after offer close. tth1311      ( Date: 23-Nov-2019 22:28) Posted: If you did not accept the offer, what will happen to your share after the offer expired?
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tth1311 Member	23-Nov-2019 22:28        tth1311 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If you did not accept the offer, what will happen to your share after the offer expired?
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peppergal_87 Member	18-Nov-2019 19:38        peppergal_87 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oxley last sold 6.4 million shares on 30 Nov 2018 at $2.55. Was hoping that they bought more when it was as low as $2.35 and avg down their costs. https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/_UEL-Form3.ashx?App=Announcement& FileID=535882 gregtan123      ( Date: 18-Nov-2019 19:05) Posted: Oxley sold 62 mil shares of UE taking their holding from 18.92% to 9.19%.  Mr Ching of Oxley personally has 3.48%. Mr Low of Oxley personally has 2.08%. not sure if they sold.
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gregtan123 Supreme	18-Nov-2019 19:05        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oxley sold 62 mil shares of UE taking their holding from 18.92% to 9.19%.  Mr Ching of Oxley personally has 3.48%. Mr Low of Oxley personally has 2.08%. not sure if they sold.
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gregtan123 Supreme	18-Nov-2019 08:27        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	offer price has been changed to 2.70 liao btw TA_Expert      ( Date: 18-Nov-2019 01:34) Posted: Offer price is $2.60, yet current market price is $2.70.
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TA_Expert Supreme	18-Nov-2019 01:34        TA_Expert About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "The World has changed"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Offer price is $2.60, yet current market price is $2.70.
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Goldfinger Supreme	17-Nov-2019 23:47        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Great job! Hope they take action gregtan123      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 21:47) Posted: Already did. Send to SGX, SIAS, UE, Yanlord, DBS Advisory, Teo Ser Luck (Lead Independent Director of UE), all the media writer covering UE from Business Times. I have not much shares but the past 2 years from the background observe, just don' t think it is right. So decided to put some effort collate all and write in.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 21:26) Posted: Excellent piece - should send this in
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gregtan123 Supreme	17-Nov-2019 21:47        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Already did. Send to SGX, SIAS, UE, Yanlord, DBS Advisory, Teo Ser Luck (Lead Independent Director of UE), all the media writer covering UE from Business Times. I have not much shares but the past 2 years from the background observe, just don' t think it is right. So decided to put some effort collate all and write in.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 21:26) Posted: Excellent piece - should send this in. gregtan123      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 20:55) Posted: I wrote it over the weekend. Spend 12 hours searching and writing. Former lawyer haha.
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Goldfinger Supreme	17-Nov-2019 21:26        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Excellent piece - should send this in. gregtan123      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 20:55) Posted: I wrote it over the weekend. Spend 12 hours searching and writing. Former lawyer haha.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 20:52) Posted: Wow - wonder if OX is behind this. Where did you find this letter
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gregtan123 Supreme	17-Nov-2019 20:55        gregtan123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I wrote it over the weekend. Spend 12 hours searching and writing. Former lawyer haha.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 20:52) Posted: Wow - wonder if OX is behind this. Where did you find this letter? gregtan123      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 19:56) Posted: [Without Prejudice]   I am a minority shareholder of United Engineers. My family members are also minority shareholder of United Engineers. We have been shareholders since 2017. In this letter, I would like to highlight some of my concerns with the Corporate Governance of United Engineers since 2017 as well as possible regulatory issues with respect to the latest takeover attempt.  I am also contemplating seeking legal advice and escalating this matter further through a legal suit via the company as allowed by the provisions of Section 216 of the Companies Act.   In this open letter, I will chart out all the many instances from the perspective of Minority Shareholders where there seems to be a lack of transparency in the actions of the board and/or may not have acted in the interest of shareholders. Collectively, over a 2-3 years period, the actions of the UE board and current majority shareholders Yanlord may constitute a claim for Minority Oppression under Section 216 of the Companies Act.   2019: Takeover Offer Issue   Query 1/Incident 1: Takeover Offer (25 October 2019) and Sale of Treasury Shares (5 July 2019)   I refer to the announcement on 5 July 2019 about the sale of 21,712,000 stock units representing 3.14% of the shareholding of United Engineers by United Engineer&rsquo s subsidiary WBL corporation to independently sourced and placed 3rd Parties.   I am not going to repeat Oxley&rsquo s and other minority shareholders issue or anger that the price of SGD 2.58 negotiated was NOT the best value from a shareholders&rsquo perspective given: (a) Presence of Oxley willingness to pay (clear indication prior) as well as purchasing shares above 2.60 from the Open Market repeatedly prior to the sale, (b) Trading Share Price was 2.61 SGD on 5 July as of closing, (c) Shareholder Rejection of Yanlord, Perennial offer of 2.60 SGD (2 years ago) and (d) NAV of being SGD 3.12 (as of 30 June 2019).   This low-price share sale (even if it is to an alleged independent party) is the 1st Example of actions which may constitute minority oppression. [&ldquo First example of possible minority oppression&rdquo ]   But the above is NOT the reason or the point of Query 1 though, I merely wanted to set out clearly that action may constitute a possible act of minority oppression. Instead, my true purpose of Query 1 is to ask:   Did/Has the Independent 3rd Party who bought the 21,712,000 treasury shares (3.14% of UE&rsquo s share cap) SOLD to Yanlord recently? [Attention: SGX, SIAS, UE Board]   This question is important, and I believe the Minority Shareholders of UE have a right to know. Let me explain the reasons for such a view. Given the Proximity between the Block Sale of 3.14% and the Announcement of Yanlord&rsquo s takeover offer, there could be a potential PERCEIVED conflict of interest.   Given that Yanlord wants 50% majority control and it only has 35.37% (after buying Perennial&rsquo s stake), the UE board (controlled by Yanlord) by selling 3 months prior to an &ldquo independent party&rdquo and who in turn 3 months down the road, sold the very same 3.14% to Yanlord contributing to Yanlord&rsquo s goal of getting majority control of United Engineer. To put in layman&rsquo s terms, I will sell to a 3rd party first and then buy it back 3 months later so I can get the 50% threshold I need to have majority control. The independent party would also have a conflict of interest because in a matter of 3 months, they stand to gain 0.12 SGD x 21,712,000 (making a profit of around 2.605 million) even assuming no inducement was made. From UE/WBL shareholder&rsquo s perspective, this represents LESSER Profits of 2.605 million.   Can the UE Board explain this decision and clarify whether the 3rd Party has indeed sold the stake to Yanlord? [Worsening the &ldquo First example of possible minority oppression&rdquo .]   This question is NOT just a question that interests me or other minority shareholders. In fact, a similar question was asked by writer Don Low of aspire.shareinvestor.com on August 2019 when he said: &ldquo Also leaving retail and minority investors feeling high and dry was UE&rsquo s decision to go on a separate placement of its entire block of treasury shares at a price of $2.58 per share. In 2017, minority shareholders had voted against the YPI&rsquo s offer price of $2.60 per share, leading to the takeover offer to lapse. Following which, YPI cannot increase its stake in UE by more than one percent every six months, unless it embarks on another general offer. The latest episode thus left investors wondering if the move was YPI&rsquo s strategy to accumulate an increased stake in UE via a third party who could end up being acting in concert hence the secrecy. Regardless, it also dented confidence in the current UE board. Looking at the public forum of Sharejunction, most forumers seem to show some distaste for the sale.&rdquo SGX needs to query this and a public statement by the United Engineers Board is crucial is dispelling the concerns of minority shareholders.  Overall, from an external and minority shareholder perspective, it appears as though Yanlord and UE board know that their low offer (repeating a 2017 rejected offer) was NEVER going to allow them to get their Objective of Majority Control, it is hard not to feel from a minority perspective this may be part of some plan to help Yanlord achieve their objective and circumvent listing rules.   Query 2/Incident 2: Takeover Offer (crossing 50% and becoming unconditional as of 15 Nov) and the Impact on Chained WBL Offer   From the Latest Announcement, it seems that the Offeror will NOT be buying United Engineer&rsquo s stake in WBL Corporation given that now United Engineers is seen as a Concert Party (indirect subsidiary of Yanlord) of the Offeror. I would like to ask the following questions:   Given how in 2018 (see below), Yanlord and Co tried to get UE to buy their stakes in WBL Corporation but was foiled by Minority Shareholders, does SGX not see this as an possible circumvention of rules to achieve the objective of not buying WBL shares in accordance to the SIC&rsquo s chained rule?   What is the Offeror&rsquo s position with WBL? Shareholders of United Engineers have the right to know because it seems likely that Yanlord/YIC will use their majority stake as well as links with the UE Board to motion for a purchase of Yanlord&rsquo s WBL stake repeating an action that was clearly rejected by minority shareholders less than 12 months ago. To make matters worse, this time the buy price would be at least SGD 2.59 as opposed to SGD 2.07.   In the event this happens, what is SGX&rsquo s rules/position on such an issue in terms of voting. Will YIC/Yanlord be able to vote on this resolution mandating either UE buys or sells WBL to YIC/Yanlord especially given their conflict of interest?   Side Sub Issue: Valuation of United Engineers and WBL Stakes   I believe SGX has already rightly queried Perennial Real Estate Holdings on how it had arrived at the valuation for the UEL and WBL stakes whose response was no valuation was done.   See Business Times Article (5 Nov 2019): https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/no-valuation-done-in-disposal-of-uel-and-wbl-shares-perennial   It is disconcerting to say the least that no valuation was done for such an important share sale. But that is a question for the Perennial Board to answer and shareholders to ask. My point is more of how there&rsquo s another Potential Perceived Conflict of Interest or rather a Perceived perception that the Offeror is trying to avoid making a Fair Value Offer for United Engineers and circumventing a proper Take Over Offer as by the Listing Rules. This is similar conflict of interest point that started from 2017 used by OCBC and Yanlord/Perennial [see below]   In sum, the Conflict of Interest lies here: Because Perennial has both stakes in United Engineers and WBL Corporation, it is not beyond the realm of possibility or rather it is a possible perception from the minority shareholders&rsquo point of view from the outside that: Yanlord and Perennial has agreement to accept a lower price for United Engineer, if Yanlord offers Perennial a Higher Price with respects to their WBL Stake. Note, I said perceived perception or feeling, I make NO claim that this was what actually happened.   The benefit to both Yanlord and Perennial is clear. Yanlord gets to get United Engineers on a cheap whilst Perennial gains of 2.59 &ndash 2.07 (paid price of WBL) from their WBL stake. The fact of Perennial&rsquo s claim that no valuation was done only further heightens suspicions.   At the end of the day, the people whose interest are harmed and left hung out to dry are the Minority Shareholders of United Engineers who are left to accept low-ball offers and offers which were already rejected by UE minority shareholders in 2017. This also seems to be a Possible Circumvention of SGX Takeover and Listing Rules. SGX mandates that when someone makes an offer which will result in them having more than a 30% stake in a listed company, they are required to make a Mandatory Offer. However, the loophole comes in such an instance when Yanlord in 2019 and Yanlord/Perennial/OCBC in 2017 negotiated a share sale of a price lower than the prevailing market value and WAY lower than the NAV, whilst offering a premium on a side deal for another shares. Can SGX look into possibly closing this loophole?   The above action may be seen as a 2nd Example of Minority Oppression.  [&ldquo 2nd Example of Possible Minority Oppression&rdquo ]   Query 3/Incident 3: Takeover Offer Document and DBS claim of &ldquo 0.9X NAV&rdquo   How did DBS arrive at the 0.9x NAV claim in the Offer Document? [Please see my calculations below] [DBS please answer this]   In your offer document released by DBS, it was stated:   &ldquo The P/NAV implied by the Ordinary Share Offer Price is 0.9x, which is in line with the average P/NAV of 0.9x for selected transactions involving Singapore-listed property developers.&rdquo AND &ldquo Based on UEL' s reported net asset value as at 30 June 2019 and total number of issued UEL Ordinary Shares of 637,520,399&rdquo   At this point, Yanlord&rsquo s Offer was 2.60 SGD for United Engineers. For DBS claim in their Offer Document to be true and factually accurate, it means UE&rsquo s 0.9X NAV is 2.60 SGD. This implies that as of 30 June 2019, United Engineers P/NAV or NAV was an estimate of 2.89.   However, here&rsquo s a quick on the ACTUAL NAV based on United Engineer&rsquo s own Financial Report actually disproves DBS&rsquo s claim in the offer document (as a reason to convince shareholders to sell their shares).   14 May 2019 (1st Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 31 March 2019 was SGD 3.15 30 June 2019 (Yanlord and DBS&rsquo s claim): NAV of UE as of 30 June 2019 was a mere SGD 2.89 14 August 2019 (2nd Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 30 June 2019 was SGD 3.15 11 November 2019 (3rd Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 30 September 2019 was SGD 3.22   Further, even at Yanlord&rsquo s/DBS&rsquo s best-case scenario using their new SGD 2.70 price, their claim of the Offer being 0.9x NAV is still not true because this would be UE&rsquo s NAV to be just SGD 3.00.     Hence, I am proposing to DBS and Yanlord to explain how they arrive their SGD 2.89 NAV valuation of United Engineers as of 30 June 2019.   If DBS or Yanlord is UNABLE to do so, DBS and Yanlord must issue a Clarification Statement about their Offer Document because their claim to Minority Shareholders is that what we are doing is in lined with market practice with the effect of trying to sway their decision into selling their shares.   In the alternative, DBS and Yanlord can revise their offers to be as follows: either (i) SGD 2.898 (which is 0.9x of SGD 3.22) or (ii) SGD 2.835 (which is 0.9x of SGD 3.15).   Assuming this is a mischaracterization by DBS, this may constitute a &ldquo 3rd Possible Example of Minority Oppression&rdquo in that a misstatement is trying to induce minority shareholders to sell their shares for a lower price, causing them to act against their own legitimate interest.   2018: Denial of Minority Shareholder Board Seat and UE Purchase of Yanlord&rsquo s WBL Stake   Query 4/Incident 4: Despite Oxley&rsquo s substantial stake, industry experience and connections the UE board has repeatedly denied Oxley a seat on the board. In fact, Mr Ching and Mr Low application for a seat on the board of UE is also widely supported by other shareholders both at the shareholder meetings and online.   Further, during the same meeting, Oxley indicated very clearly as reported by the news outlets: " And let' s say you' re afraid some people won' t subscribe, Oxley will underwrite the whole issue. We hope that board members can consult us. We are more than willing to work with management to make sure that the company keeps growing," Mr Low said to applause.&rdquo   This taken in light of what happened in early mid 2019 on the sale of treasury shares of UE for the price of SGD 2.58 lends to the possible interpretation that the UE board may not have acted in the interest of UE and the company. Oxley has repeatedly said it would consider making a good offer for UE share. The Board through their respective and repeated meetings with Oxley should be fully cognizant of Oxley&rsquo s desire and will.   In light of this, to under-sell a stake without even consulting Oxley, and with the same stock being sold for an additional SGD 0.12 higher just 3 months later, it lends to the impression that the UE Board may not have acted in the interest of shareholders.   Can the UE Board shed light as to why Oxley was denied their request for a Board seat (twice) despite being a substantial shareholder, and despite clear indication from the rest of the minority shareholders than Oxley will be a good representative of their interests?   Can the UE Board also shed light as to why there was NOT an Open Tender for the sale of subsidiary shares and why was Oxley (who indicated they were willing to buy the stake) NOT consulted?   Whilst denial of a Board Seat alone is not sufficient to constitute minority oppression, case law suggests that collective actions by the Board and Majority shareholders with regards to minority shareholders interest may constitute a case of Minority Oppression such as denying minority shareholders a chance to participate in the management of the company. This may represent the 4th possible act of minority oppression.     Query 5/Incident 5: Oxley blocks UE&rsquo s purchase of WBL shares from Yanlord (The Business Times article dated February 24, 2018)   To say the least, the decision by the UE board to make UE buy Yanlord&rsquo s stake in WBL was highly unpopular amongst the minority shareholders who had already felt short-changed from what happened in 2017 (see below).   Yanlord through their control of UE&rsquo s board proposed that UE bought their stake in WBL (which they had bought together with their UE take from OCBC, GEH). Had the UE board been successful, the UE shareholders would again be left hung out to dry by their own board. I am going to explain clearly the ONLY possible interpretation of their entire 2017 saga.   OCBC, GEH wanted to their sell BOTH their UE and WBL stakes at the same time. The SGX rule mandates that selling their UE stake would trigger a takeover offer for UE, whilst by the chained listing rule, a chained offer will have to be made for the WBL stake. Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue clearly ONLY wanted Majority Control of UE but did NOT want the WBL stake for various possible reasons.   So what unfolded from the perspective of the minority shareholders was this [please note I am saying perception, I make NO claim that this was what actually happened]: OCBC, GEH agreed that if Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue purchases my WBL stake at a good price, we can accept a lower price for our stake in UE. Then Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue who seems to only want the UE stake without buying the WBL stake (skirting around the chained listed rule), will then through their control of the UE board make UE purchase their WBL stake which they just bought from OCBC.   In sum, OCBC and GEH gets what they want: sale of both their UE and WBL stake. Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue gets UE on a cheap whilst asking UE to purchase their unwanted WBL stake. UE minority shareholders will end up with (a) a low ball offer for UE, (b) losing majority control of the board to Yanlord, (c) force to use UE&rsquo s assets and momey to buy an unwanted WBL stake. Thankfully for UE&rsquo s minority shareholders, Oxley helped to block such an act. This act may constitute the 5th Possible act of Minority Oppression.       2017: Governance Issue surrounding 1st failed takeover attempt   Query 7/Incident 7: Governance Issue as stated by reporter Goh Eng Yeow on 28 October 2019 (I am quoting him in full because I think he summarizes part of the potential conflict of interest issues well) &ldquo But, here, the situation gets a little tricky: With this takeover offer on WBL, OCBC, GE and the Lees will be able to offload their WBL stakes to the buyer. But in order to reduce his cash outlay, the buyer may want UE to undertake that it will not accept the takeover offer to sell its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL. This raises governance concerns. For the UE' s board of directors to give such an undertaking on behalf of the company, it must satisfy itself that the shareholders are better off if UE does not cash out of WBL. But some UE shareholders may be reluctant to accept the offer made by the buyer for their UE shares. They may also prefer to hold on to the UE shares in the hope of collecting any special dividend payout, which the company would be in the position to make if it sells out of its WBL stake. There is also the awkward question as to why UE should lock itself up with an undertaking not to sell its WBL stake, when other WBL shareholders can keep their options open as to what to do with their shares. Then there is the regulatory aspect to consider. The Securities Industry Council, which administers the takeover code, may want the UE board to give a written confirmation that the company has not received any form of " inducements" for undertaking that it would not be selling its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL to the buyer. Suffice to say, the various issues that may arise are likely to put the UE board between a rock and a hard place.&rdquo I am assuming that UE did not accept the offer for its 67.5% stake in WBL when the offer was triggered in 2017.  Can the Board and SGX give an explanation on this issue? Can the Board and Yanlord give &ldquo a written confirmation that the company has not received any form of " inducements" for undertaking that it would not be selling its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL to the buyer&rdquo ?   As a minority shareholder, the entire action of the UE Board and majority shareholders seem to be one of continual steamrolling of the concerns, questions and interests of minority shareholders. It seems as though SGX&rsquo s Takeover rules and chain listing rules are constantly being waived or circumvented to suit the needs for the majority shareholder and UE&rsquo s board. I am sure whatever that has been done was within rules and regulations because the UE board and Yanlord must have taken legal advice over all such transactions.   The above act may constitute the 6th possible act of minority oppression. Whilst this independent act itself may not constitute minority oppression, the acts in totality may lead a strong claim of minority oppression.     My final question for SGX is:   Given how there has been 2 attempts (in 2019 and 2017) in regards to the UE offer and WBL Chained Offer, and how things have panned out (UE minority shareholders suffering whilst ALL other Big Players including OCBC, GEH, Yanlord, Perennial have benefitted), what are some mechanisms in place by SGX to protect minority shareholders interest in such situations with cross-holdings? Other Miscellaneous Issues Query 8/Incident 8: Declining Dividend since Yanlord took over (reporter Don Low, 11 September 2019)   Note that case law suggests that it is possible that &ldquo No or inadequate dividends deliberate payment of low dividends by those in control of a company who obtained directors&rsquo fees or remuneration may amount to unfairly prejudicial  conduct.&rdquo   Writer Don Low stated that: &ldquo We also highlighted our observation of UE&rsquo s quickly declining dividends over the past few years. In 2016 when OCBC was still the major shareholder, investors were rewarded first and final dividend of 5 cents per share and a special dividend of 7 cents per share. However, when YPI took over in 2017, dividend was slashed to 4 cents and 3 cents in 2018. Disregarding the special dividend in 2016, minority shareholders that bought UE as dividend stock would have seen their dividend income slip by 40 percent in merely 2 years.   Granted, the US-China trade war and a myriad of other factors may have impacted the local property sector and UE&rsquo s performance lately. But viewing how the corporate developments unfolded, one might not be able to confidently say that UE&rsquo s board was acting in full interest for its stakeholders.&rdquo   Given how UE has dramatically dropped dividends since Yanlord got control of the United Engineer&rsquo s board, this could be seen as another act in the collective claim of minority oppression. This is the 7th and final possible act of minority oppression by the majority shareholders and the UE&rsquo s board.   My Final Question for the UE board is given the stellar 3rd Quarter results:   Is the UE board considering giving a Special Dividend at the end of the financial year to reward shareholders? If not, what are the plans of the Board to help shareholders maximize their value?     Thank you.   Yours sincerely, A Concerned Shareholder
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x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wow - wonder if OX is behind this. Where did you find this letter? gregtan123      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 19:56) Posted: [Without Prejudice]   I am a minority shareholder of United Engineers. My family members are also minority shareholder of United Engineers. We have been shareholders since 2017. In this letter, I would like to highlight some of my concerns with the Corporate Governance of United Engineers since 2017 as well as possible regulatory issues with respect to the latest takeover attempt.  I am also contemplating seeking legal advice and escalating this matter further through a legal suit via the company as allowed by the provisions of Section 216 of the Companies Act.   In this open letter, I will chart out all the many instances from the perspective of Minority Shareholders where there seems to be a lack of transparency in the actions of the board and/or may not have acted in the interest of shareholders. Collectively, over a 2-3 years period, the actions of the UE board and current majority shareholders Yanlord may constitute a claim for Minority Oppression under Section 216 of the Companies Act.   2019: Takeover Offer Issue   Query 1/Incident 1: Takeover Offer (25 October 2019) and Sale of Treasury Shares (5 July 2019)   I refer to the announcement on 5 July 2019 about the sale of 21,712,000 stock units representing 3.14% of the shareholding of United Engineers by United Engineer&rsquo s subsidiary WBL corporation to independently sourced and placed 3rd Parties.   I am not going to repeat Oxley&rsquo s and other minority shareholders issue or anger that the price of SGD 2.58 negotiated was NOT the best value from a shareholders&rsquo perspective given: (a) Presence of Oxley willingness to pay (clear indication prior) as well as purchasing shares above 2.60 from the Open Market repeatedly prior to the sale, (b) Trading Share Price was 2.61 SGD on 5 July as of closing, (c) Shareholder Rejection of Yanlord, Perennial offer of 2.60 SGD (2 years ago) and (d) NAV of being SGD 3.12 (as of 30 June 2019).   This low-price share sale (even if it is to an alleged independent party) is the 1st Example of actions which may constitute minority oppression. [&ldquo First example of possible minority oppression&rdquo ]   But the above is NOT the reason or the point of Query 1 though, I merely wanted to set out clearly that action may constitute a possible act of minority oppression. Instead, my true purpose of Query 1 is to ask:   Did/Has the Independent 3rd Party who bought the 21,712,000 treasury shares (3.14% of UE&rsquo s share cap) SOLD to Yanlord recently? [Attention: SGX, SIAS, UE Board]   This question is important, and I believe the Minority Shareholders of UE have a right to know. Let me explain the reasons for such a view. Given the Proximity between the Block Sale of 3.14% and the Announcement of Yanlord&rsquo s takeover offer, there could be a potential PERCEIVED conflict of interest.   Given that Yanlord wants 50% majority control and it only has 35.37% (after buying Perennial&rsquo s stake), the UE board (controlled by Yanlord) by selling 3 months prior to an &ldquo independent party&rdquo and who in turn 3 months down the road, sold the very same 3.14% to Yanlord contributing to Yanlord&rsquo s goal of getting majority control of United Engineer. To put in layman&rsquo s terms, I will sell to a 3rd party first and then buy it back 3 months later so I can get the 50% threshold I need to have majority control. The independent party would also have a conflict of interest because in a matter of 3 months, they stand to gain 0.12 SGD x 21,712,000 (making a profit of around 2.605 million) even assuming no inducement was made. From UE/WBL shareholder&rsquo s perspective, this represents LESSER Profits of 2.605 million.   Can the UE Board explain this decision and clarify whether the 3rd Party has indeed sold the stake to Yanlord? [Worsening the &ldquo First example of possible minority oppression&rdquo .]   This question is NOT just a question that interests me or other minority shareholders. In fact, a similar question was asked by writer Don Low of aspire.shareinvestor.com on August 2019 when he said: &ldquo Also leaving retail and minority investors feeling high and dry was UE&rsquo s decision to go on a separate placement of its entire block of treasury shares at a price of $2.58 per share. In 2017, minority shareholders had voted against the YPI&rsquo s offer price of $2.60 per share, leading to the takeover offer to lapse. Following which, YPI cannot increase its stake in UE by more than one percent every six months, unless it embarks on another general offer. The latest episode thus left investors wondering if the move was YPI&rsquo s strategy to accumulate an increased stake in UE via a third party who could end up being acting in concert hence the secrecy. Regardless, it also dented confidence in the current UE board. Looking at the public forum of Sharejunction, most forumers seem to show some distaste for the sale.&rdquo SGX needs to query this and a public statement by the United Engineers Board is crucial is dispelling the concerns of minority shareholders.  Overall, from an external and minority shareholder perspective, it appears as though Yanlord and UE board know that their low offer (repeating a 2017 rejected offer) was NEVER going to allow them to get their Objective of Majority Control, it is hard not to feel from a minority perspective this may be part of some plan to help Yanlord achieve their objective and circumvent listing rules.   Query 2/Incident 2: Takeover Offer (crossing 50% and becoming unconditional as of 15 Nov) and the Impact on Chained WBL Offer   From the Latest Announcement, it seems that the Offeror will NOT be buying United Engineer&rsquo s stake in WBL Corporation given that now United Engineers is seen as a Concert Party (indirect subsidiary of Yanlord) of the Offeror. I would like to ask the following questions:   Given how in 2018 (see below), Yanlord and Co tried to get UE to buy their stakes in WBL Corporation but was foiled by Minority Shareholders, does SGX not see this as an possible circumvention of rules to achieve the objective of not buying WBL shares in accordance to the SIC&rsquo s chained rule?   What is the Offeror&rsquo s position with WBL? Shareholders of United Engineers have the right to know because it seems likely that Yanlord/YIC will use their majority stake as well as links with the UE Board to motion for a purchase of Yanlord&rsquo s WBL stake repeating an action that was clearly rejected by minority shareholders less than 12 months ago. To make matters worse, this time the buy price would be at least SGD 2.59 as opposed to SGD 2.07.   In the event this happens, what is SGX&rsquo s rules/position on such an issue in terms of voting. Will YIC/Yanlord be able to vote on this resolution mandating either UE buys or sells WBL to YIC/Yanlord especially given their conflict of interest?   Side Sub Issue: Valuation of United Engineers and WBL Stakes   I believe SGX has already rightly queried Perennial Real Estate Holdings on how it had arrived at the valuation for the UEL and WBL stakes whose response was no valuation was done.   See Business Times Article (5 Nov 2019): https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/no-valuation-done-in-disposal-of-uel-and-wbl-shares-perennial   It is disconcerting to say the least that no valuation was done for such an important share sale. But that is a question for the Perennial Board to answer and shareholders to ask. My point is more of how there&rsquo s another Potential Perceived Conflict of Interest or rather a Perceived perception that the Offeror is trying to avoid making a Fair Value Offer for United Engineers and circumventing a proper Take Over Offer as by the Listing Rules. This is similar conflict of interest point that started from 2017 used by OCBC and Yanlord/Perennial [see below]   In sum, the Conflict of Interest lies here: Because Perennial has both stakes in United Engineers and WBL Corporation, it is not beyond the realm of possibility or rather it is a possible perception from the minority shareholders&rsquo point of view from the outside that: Yanlord and Perennial has agreement to accept a lower price for United Engineer, if Yanlord offers Perennial a Higher Price with respects to their WBL Stake. Note, I said perceived perception or feeling, I make NO claim that this was what actually happened.   The benefit to both Yanlord and Perennial is clear. Yanlord gets to get United Engineers on a cheap whilst Perennial gains of 2.59 &ndash 2.07 (paid price of WBL) from their WBL stake. The fact of Perennial&rsquo s claim that no valuation was done only further heightens suspicions.   At the end of the day, the people whose interest are harmed and left hung out to dry are the Minority Shareholders of United Engineers who are left to accept low-ball offers and offers which were already rejected by UE minority shareholders in 2017. This also seems to be a Possible Circumvention of SGX Takeover and Listing Rules. SGX mandates that when someone makes an offer which will result in them having more than a 30% stake in a listed company, they are required to make a Mandatory Offer. However, the loophole comes in such an instance when Yanlord in 2019 and Yanlord/Perennial/OCBC in 2017 negotiated a share sale of a price lower than the prevailing market value and WAY lower than the NAV, whilst offering a premium on a side deal for another shares. Can SGX look into possibly closing this loophole?   The above action may be seen as a 2nd Example of Minority Oppression.  [&ldquo 2nd Example of Possible Minority Oppression&rdquo ]   Query 3/Incident 3: Takeover Offer Document and DBS claim of &ldquo 0.9X NAV&rdquo   How did DBS arrive at the 0.9x NAV claim in the Offer Document? [Please see my calculations below] [DBS please answer this]   In your offer document released by DBS, it was stated:   &ldquo The P/NAV implied by the Ordinary Share Offer Price is 0.9x, which is in line with the average P/NAV of 0.9x for selected transactions involving Singapore-listed property developers.&rdquo AND &ldquo Based on UEL' s reported net asset value as at 30 June 2019 and total number of issued UEL Ordinary Shares of 637,520,399&rdquo   At this point, Yanlord&rsquo s Offer was 2.60 SGD for United Engineers. For DBS claim in their Offer Document to be true and factually accurate, it means UE&rsquo s 0.9X NAV is 2.60 SGD. This implies that as of 30 June 2019, United Engineers P/NAV or NAV was an estimate of 2.89.   However, here&rsquo s a quick on the ACTUAL NAV based on United Engineer&rsquo s own Financial Report actually disproves DBS&rsquo s claim in the offer document (as a reason to convince shareholders to sell their shares).   14 May 2019 (1st Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 31 March 2019 was SGD 3.15 30 June 2019 (Yanlord and DBS&rsquo s claim): NAV of UE as of 30 June 2019 was a mere SGD 2.89 14 August 2019 (2nd Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 30 June 2019 was SGD 3.15 11 November 2019 (3rd Quarter Results): NAV of UE as of 30 September 2019 was SGD 3.22   Further, even at Yanlord&rsquo s/DBS&rsquo s best-case scenario using their new SGD 2.70 price, their claim of the Offer being 0.9x NAV is still not true because this would be UE&rsquo s NAV to be just SGD 3.00.     Hence, I am proposing to DBS and Yanlord to explain how they arrive their SGD 2.89 NAV valuation of United Engineers as of 30 June 2019.   If DBS or Yanlord is UNABLE to do so, DBS and Yanlord must issue a Clarification Statement about their Offer Document because their claim to Minority Shareholders is that what we are doing is in lined with market practice with the effect of trying to sway their decision into selling their shares.   In the alternative, DBS and Yanlord can revise their offers to be as follows: either (i) SGD 2.898 (which is 0.9x of SGD 3.22) or (ii) SGD 2.835 (which is 0.9x of SGD 3.15).   Assuming this is a mischaracterization by DBS, this may constitute a &ldquo 3rd Possible Example of Minority Oppression&rdquo in that a misstatement is trying to induce minority shareholders to sell their shares for a lower price, causing them to act against their own legitimate interest.   2018: Denial of Minority Shareholder Board Seat and UE Purchase of Yanlord&rsquo s WBL Stake   Query 4/Incident 4: Despite Oxley&rsquo s substantial stake, industry experience and connections the UE board has repeatedly denied Oxley a seat on the board. In fact, Mr Ching and Mr Low application for a seat on the board of UE is also widely supported by other shareholders both at the shareholder meetings and online.   Further, during the same meeting, Oxley indicated very clearly as reported by the news outlets: " And let' s say you' re afraid some people won' t subscribe, Oxley will underwrite the whole issue. We hope that board members can consult us. We are more than willing to work with management to make sure that the company keeps growing," Mr Low said to applause.&rdquo   This taken in light of what happened in early mid 2019 on the sale of treasury shares of UE for the price of SGD 2.58 lends to the possible interpretation that the UE board may not have acted in the interest of UE and the company. Oxley has repeatedly said it would consider making a good offer for UE share. The Board through their respective and repeated meetings with Oxley should be fully cognizant of Oxley&rsquo s desire and will.   In light of this, to under-sell a stake without even consulting Oxley, and with the same stock being sold for an additional SGD 0.12 higher just 3 months later, it lends to the impression that the UE Board may not have acted in the interest of shareholders.   Can the UE Board shed light as to why Oxley was denied their request for a Board seat (twice) despite being a substantial shareholder, and despite clear indication from the rest of the minority shareholders than Oxley will be a good representative of their interests?   Can the UE Board also shed light as to why there was NOT an Open Tender for the sale of subsidiary shares and why was Oxley (who indicated they were willing to buy the stake) NOT consulted?   Whilst denial of a Board Seat alone is not sufficient to constitute minority oppression, case law suggests that collective actions by the Board and Majority shareholders with regards to minority shareholders interest may constitute a case of Minority Oppression such as denying minority shareholders a chance to participate in the management of the company. This may represent the 4th possible act of minority oppression.     Query 5/Incident 5: Oxley blocks UE&rsquo s purchase of WBL shares from Yanlord (The Business Times article dated February 24, 2018)   To say the least, the decision by the UE board to make UE buy Yanlord&rsquo s stake in WBL was highly unpopular amongst the minority shareholders who had already felt short-changed from what happened in 2017 (see below).   Yanlord through their control of UE&rsquo s board proposed that UE bought their stake in WBL (which they had bought together with their UE take from OCBC, GEH). Had the UE board been successful, the UE shareholders would again be left hung out to dry by their own board. I am going to explain clearly the ONLY possible interpretation of their entire 2017 saga.   OCBC, GEH wanted to their sell BOTH their UE and WBL stakes at the same time. The SGX rule mandates that selling their UE stake would trigger a takeover offer for UE, whilst by the chained listing rule, a chained offer will have to be made for the WBL stake. Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue clearly ONLY wanted Majority Control of UE but did NOT want the WBL stake for various possible reasons.   So what unfolded from the perspective of the minority shareholders was this [please note I am saying perception, I make NO claim that this was what actually happened]: OCBC, GEH agreed that if Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue purchases my WBL stake at a good price, we can accept a lower price for our stake in UE. Then Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue who seems to only want the UE stake without buying the WBL stake (skirting around the chained listed rule), will then through their control of the UE board make UE purchase their WBL stake which they just bought from OCBC.   In sum, OCBC and GEH gets what they want: sale of both their UE and WBL stake. Yanlord/Perennial/Heng Yue gets UE on a cheap whilst asking UE to purchase their unwanted WBL stake. UE minority shareholders will end up with (a) a low ball offer for UE, (b) losing majority control of the board to Yanlord, (c) force to use UE&rsquo s assets and momey to buy an unwanted WBL stake. Thankfully for UE&rsquo s minority shareholders, Oxley helped to block such an act. This act may constitute the 5th Possible act of Minority Oppression.       2017: Governance Issue surrounding 1st failed takeover attempt   Query 7/Incident 7: Governance Issue as stated by reporter Goh Eng Yeow on 28 October 2019 (I am quoting him in full because I think he summarizes part of the potential conflict of interest issues well) &ldquo But, here, the situation gets a little tricky: With this takeover offer on WBL, OCBC, GE and the Lees will be able to offload their WBL stakes to the buyer. But in order to reduce his cash outlay, the buyer may want UE to undertake that it will not accept the takeover offer to sell its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL. This raises governance concerns. For the UE' s board of directors to give such an undertaking on behalf of the company, it must satisfy itself that the shareholders are better off if UE does not cash out of WBL. But some UE shareholders may be reluctant to accept the offer made by the buyer for their UE shares. They may also prefer to hold on to the UE shares in the hope of collecting any special dividend payout, which the company would be in the position to make if it sells out of its WBL stake. There is also the awkward question as to why UE should lock itself up with an undertaking not to sell its WBL stake, when other WBL shareholders can keep their options open as to what to do with their shares. Then there is the regulatory aspect to consider. The Securities Industry Council, which administers the takeover code, may want the UE board to give a written confirmation that the company has not received any form of " inducements" for undertaking that it would not be selling its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL to the buyer. Suffice to say, the various issues that may arise are likely to put the UE board between a rock and a hard place.&rdquo I am assuming that UE did not accept the offer for its 67.5% stake in WBL when the offer was triggered in 2017.  Can the Board and SGX give an explanation on this issue? Can the Board and Yanlord give &ldquo a written confirmation that the company has not received any form of " inducements" for undertaking that it would not be selling its 67.5 per cent stake in WBL to the buyer&rdquo ?   As a minority shareholder, the entire action of the UE Board and majority shareholders seem to be one of continual steamrolling of the concerns, questions and interests of minority shareholders. It seems as though SGX&rsquo s Takeover rules and chain listing rules are constantly being waived or circumvented to suit the needs for the majority shareholder and UE&rsquo s board. I am sure whatever that has been done was within rules and regulations because the UE board and Yanlord must have taken legal advice over all such transactions.   The above act may constitute the 6th possible act of minority oppression. Whilst this independent act itself may not constitute minority oppression, the acts in totality may lead a strong claim of minority oppression.     My final question for SGX is:   Given how there has been 2 attempts (in 2019 and 2017) in regards to the UE offer and WBL Chained Offer, and how things have panned out (UE minority shareholders suffering whilst ALL other Big Players including OCBC, GEH, Yanlord, Perennial have benefitted), what are some mechanisms in place by SGX to protect minority shareholders interest in such situations with cross-holdings? Other Miscellaneous Issues Query 8/Incident 8: Declining Dividend since Yanlord took over (reporter Don Low, 11 September 2019)   Note that case law suggests that it is possible that &ldquo No or inadequate dividends deliberate payment of low dividends by those in control of a company who obtained directors&rsquo fees or remuneration may amount to unfairly prejudicial  conduct.&rdquo   Writer Don Low stated that: &ldquo We also highlighted our observation of UE&rsquo s quickly declining dividends over the past few years. In 2016 when OCBC was still the major shareholder, investors were rewarded first and final dividend of 5 cents per share and a special dividend of 7 cents per share. However, when YPI took over in 2017, dividend was slashed to 4 cents and 3 cents in 2018. Disregarding the special dividend in 2016, minority shareholders that bought UE as dividend stock would have seen their dividend income slip by 40 percent in merely 2 years.   Granted, the US-China trade war and a myriad of other factors may have impacted the local property sector and UE&rsquo s performance lately. But viewing how the corporate developments unfolded, one might not be able to confidently say that UE&rsquo s board was acting in full interest for its stakeholders.&rdquo   Given how UE has dramatically dropped dividends since Yanlord got control of the United Engineer&rsquo s board, this could be seen as another act in the collective claim of minority oppression. This is the 7th and final possible act of minority oppression by the majority shareholders and the UE&rsquo s board.   My Final Question for the UE board is given the stellar 3rd Quarter results:   Is the UE board considering giving a Special Dividend at the end of the financial year to reward shareholders? If not, what are the plans of the Board to help shareholders maximize their value?     Thank you.   Yours sincerely, A Concerned Shareholder   n2e9w0      ( Date: 17-Nov-2019 12:26) Posted: Thumb up. Nowadays quite a few cases.. think Chip Eng Seng is another example .. so sad..
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