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Why Biolidics share price significantly dropped
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 Alert Admin 		Best option now is to exit asap. Usually post rights price is very low and can go below rights price. I. e. 0.035..😶

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 Alert Admin 		this stock made its mark during covid, now the end is near with the rights issue to be an exit strategy by major share holders

ahhuat08      ( Date: 15-Aug-2022 14:09) Posted:

what to do, desperate for cash flow ba

Stocky901      ( Date: 15-Aug-2022 14:08) Posted:

Quite a low ball rights issue. 1 for 1 at 0.035.😪


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 Alert Admin 		what to do, desperate for cash flow ba

Stocky901      ( Date: 15-Aug-2022 14:08) Posted:

Quite a low ball rights issue. 1 for 1 at 0.035.😪

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 Alert Admin 		Quite a low ball rights issue. 1 for 1 at 0.035.😪
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 Alert Admin 		You can sell your rights in open mkt when they are listed. Must monitor closely. Good luck.

ashish      ( Date: 15-Aug-2022 12:18) Posted:

Anyone can advise can this right issue entitled shares issued on equities held be sold directly in market without actually purchasing right issued shares
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 Alert Admin 		Anyone can advise can this right issue entitled shares issued on equities held be sold directly in market without actually purchasing right issued shares
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27-Apr-2020 13:52     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yup, Zhejiang is legit. I' ve dealt with Healgen also, these guys are not bad.

It' s just that they don' t have approval to export from China after the export ban on 1 April. It could just be a paperwork issue or not enough testing or it could even be the product is not good enough. But they are not fly-by-night companies. Getting approval is tedious and tricky, sometimes one piece of paper missing then can' t export for months already.
 

actan99      ( Date: 27-Apr-2020 12:32) Posted:

Hmm so its zhejiang healgen initially ? and others pointed out its vazyme.   
Btw the zhejiang one looks legit. 

Zhejiang Orient is actually a receipient under BILL GATES foundation. Bill gates support one. See link below.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2018/11/OPP1197153

mistrally      ( Date: 24-Apr-2020 16:09) Posted:

I summarise my understanding for a bit.
 
So apparently Aytu was importing Zhejiang / Healgen' s products beforehand. They declared that NMPA, China' s version of the FDA, had not approved it yet (also, " A U.S. expert said the Chinese agency is considered " rigorous" and " demanding" in its oversight of products" so quite credible la ah). At that time, US-side/FDA was ok. But on 1 April, China' s NMPA  banned exports if they never approve.
 
At that point, Aytu was supplying some organisations in Colorado already. So now Aytu has orders to fill, but no supplier. Problem. Opportunity for Bio.
 
Very interestingly, on April 10, Aytu released a press release that said that they had " placed an order for 1 million test kits from an unidentified manufacturer" and also have an " order for 500,000 tests was " awaiting customs clearance" " . Remember, they announced exclusive distributorship agreement yesterday on 23/04 only. Any guesses who the unidentified manufacturer is?
 
My guess is Biolidics lor. If that' s true, not only confirmed sales, but sales arrived in US already liao. Never announce at point of sale because maybe that time not exclusive distributor yet, so maybe not material (or maybe that' s why halt ahah)
 
So NMPA approval means high chance of FDA approval. Also, initial sales look like its locked in already. It looks promising to me le. Not sure yet about the price fluctuations. While I' m sure Abbott and Roche will remain markets leaders in the US (once they actually manage to ramp up manufacturing in a few months), it looks like Biolidics+Aytu will do quite well for themselves also. A main reason is that they are moving lightning fast.
 
I don' t know how to analyse stocks like you experts, so I just do this kind of research and use my experience. Does it make sense?
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27-Apr-2020 13:04     
 
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 Alert Admin 		And if    Nanjing Vazyme, also good. This from Canada government.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/medical-devices/covid-19/diagnostic-devices-applications.html

Biolidics market is overseas which is always BIGGER. 
Not target singapore.

 
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27-Apr-2020 12:59     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Maybe aytu investor already know , that why their shares up

actan99      ( Date: 27-Apr-2020 12:32) Posted:

Hmm so its zhejiang healgen initially ? and others pointed out its vazyme.   
Btw the zhejiang one looks legit. 

Zhejiang Orient is actually a receipient under BILL GATES foundation. Bill gates support one. See link below.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2018/11/OPP1197153

mistrally      ( Date: 24-Apr-2020 16:09) Posted:

I summarise my understanding for a bit.
 
So apparently Aytu was importing Zhejiang / Healgen' s products beforehand. They declared that NMPA, China' s version of the FDA, had not approved it yet (also, " A U.S. expert said the Chinese agency is considered " rigorous" and " demanding" in its oversight of products" so quite credible la ah). At that time, US-side/FDA was ok. But on 1 April, China' s NMPA  banned exports if they never approve.
 
At that point, Aytu was supplying some organisations in Colorado already. So now Aytu has orders to fill, but no supplier. Problem. Opportunity for Bio.
 
Very interestingly, on April 10, Aytu released a press release that said that they had " placed an order for 1 million test kits from an unidentified manufacturer" and also have an " order for 500,000 tests was " awaiting customs clearance" " . Remember, they announced exclusive distributorship agreement yesterday on 23/04 only. Any guesses who the unidentified manufacturer is?
 
My guess is Biolidics lor. If that' s true, not only confirmed sales, but sales arrived in US already liao. Never announce at point of sale because maybe that time not exclusive distributor yet, so maybe not material (or maybe that' s why halt ahah)
 
So NMPA approval means high chance of FDA approval. Also, initial sales look like its locked in already. It looks promising to me le. Not sure yet about the price fluctuations. While I' m sure Abbott and Roche will remain markets leaders in the US (once they actually manage to ramp up manufacturing in a few months), it looks like Biolidics+Aytu will do quite well for themselves also. A main reason is that they are moving lightning fast.
 
I don' t know how to analyse stocks like you experts, so I just do this kind of research and use my experience. Does it make sense?
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 Alert Admin 		Hmm so its zhejiang healgen initially ? and others pointed out its vazyme.   
Btw the zhejiang one looks legit. 

Zhejiang Orient is actually a receipient under BILL GATES foundation. Bill gates support one. See link below.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database/Grants/2018/11/OPP1197153

mistrally      ( Date: 24-Apr-2020 16:09) Posted:

I summarise my understanding for a bit.
 
So apparently Aytu was importing Zhejiang / Healgen' s products beforehand. They declared that NMPA, China' s version of the FDA, had not approved it yet (also, " A U.S. expert said the Chinese agency is considered " rigorous" and " demanding" in its oversight of products" so quite credible la ah). At that time, US-side/FDA was ok. But on 1 April, China' s NMPA  banned exports if they never approve.
 
At that point, Aytu was supplying some organisations in Colorado already. So now Aytu has orders to fill, but no supplier. Problem. Opportunity for Bio.
 
Very interestingly, on April 10, Aytu released a press release that said that they had " placed an order for 1 million test kits from an unidentified manufacturer" and also have an " order for 500,000 tests was " awaiting customs clearance" " . Remember, they announced exclusive distributorship agreement yesterday on 23/04 only. Any guesses who the unidentified manufacturer is?
 
My guess is Biolidics lor. If that' s true, not only confirmed sales, but sales arrived in US already liao. Never announce at point of sale because maybe that time not exclusive distributor yet, so maybe not material (or maybe that' s why halt ahah)
 
So NMPA approval means high chance of FDA approval. Also, initial sales look like its locked in already. It looks promising to me le. Not sure yet about the price fluctuations. While I' m sure Abbott and Roche will remain markets leaders in the US (once they actually manage to ramp up manufacturing in a few months), it looks like Biolidics+Aytu will do quite well for themselves also. A main reason is that they are moving lightning fast.
 
I don' t know how to analyse stocks like you experts, so I just do this kind of research and use my experience. Does it make sense?


mistrally      ( Date: 24-Apr-2020 15:30) Posted:

Haha I don' t think that really matters though. What he likes and doesn' t like seems quite fluid depending on what he wants haha.

This is also another interesting article - it caused Aytu' s shares to drop but provides good insight. I try to post first.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/unapproved-chinese-coronavirus-antibody-tests-being-used-least-2-states-n1185131
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Biolidics: Response to SGX Queries
Question 1: Please explain and elaborate on the due diligence process conducted on Aytu, by the Company.
 
Company&rsquo s response: The Company had considered certain factors and conducted due diligence before appointing Aytu as the distributor for its test kits in the USA. These include assessing the financial standing of Aytu and conducting searches on Aytu on web-based global/financial databases, such as Bloomberg, Reuters and NASDAQ. The Company also noted that Aytu, which has been listed on NASDAQ since October 2017, has been appointed distributor for various pharmaceutical products addressing significant medical needs such as hypogonadism, cough and upper respiratory symptoms, insomnia and male infertility. Further, the Company also noted that Aytu has experience in obtaining regulatory clearance under Section 510(k) of the USA Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, from the US Food and Drug Administration, a federal agency of the United States Department of Health and Human Services.
 
Question 2: Please explain if the Company and its business plans will be impacted by news on investigation of potential claims on behalf of purchasers of Aytu. Please disclose if there are any financial impact on Biolidics arising from this.
 
Company&rsquo s response: While the Company is not privy to the grounds of investigation of potential claims on behalf of purchasers of Aytu against Aytu (1), the Company believes that it would not be impacted by news on such investigation (the &ldquo Relevant News&rdquo ) as Aytu is only a distributor for the Company&rsquo s COVID-19 Antibody Test Kits.
 
The Company believes that the Relevant News is unlikely to have a material impact on its business plans in view of the following:
(1) The Company has completed the listing of its test kits under Section IV.D of the &ldquo Policy for Diagnostic Tests for Coronavirus Disease-2019 during the Public Health Emergency&rdquo of the USA which enables the Company to distribute, market and sell its COVID-19 Antibody Test Kits in the USA through various channels
(2) Based on the terms of the distributorship agreement as announced, Aytu is required to fulfill certain conditions in order to remain as the exclusive distributor for the COVID-19 Antibody Test Kits in USA, such as meeting the minimum purchase quantity within 3 months from the date ofsigning of the Agreement. If Aytu fails to meet these contractual conditions, the Company may appoint another distributor for the COVID-19 Antibody Test Kits and
(3) The Company may immediately terminate the distributorship agreement in the event of any breach of the terms of the agreement by Aytu or any of its sub-distributors, employees, agents or other representatives that have not been cured within 30 days following a written notification by Biolidics of such breach.
The Company will continue to monitor publicly available information on Aytu and will take appropriate steps to mitigate any potential negative financial impact on Biolidics arising from such developments.
 
Question 3: Based on the Bloomberg alert, on 17 April 2020, NBC News had issued the said report (the &ldquo NBC News Report&rdquo ) and on this news, Aytu&rsquo s stock price fell 8% on that day.
 
(a) Given that the Company had entered into the distributorship agreement with Aytu today, 23 Apr 2020, please disclose if the Company had been aware of the development pertaining to Aytu which was already made known publicly since 17 Apr 2020.
Company&rsquo s response: The Company was introduced to Aytu on or around 31 March 2020, by a business associate, who is based in Denver, Colorado, where Aytu is also based and was aware of the contents of the NBC News report entitled &ldquo Unapproved Chinese coronavirus antibody tests being used in at least 2 states&rdquo (&ldquo NBC News&rdquo ) on 17 April 2020 (2).
 
(b) When did the Company first become aware of the following, and what did the Company do to verify the information?
(i) investigation of potential claims by a law firm on behalf of purchasers of Aytu
(ii) allegations in the Bloomberg alert / NBC News.
 
Company&rsquo s response: The Company became aware of the investigation of potential claims by a law firm on behalf of purchasers of Aytu and the allegations in the Bloomberg alert / NBC News on 17 April 2020. The Company had not verified the information as the Company understands from Aytu that no law suit has been filed. In addition, the Company had evaluated and believed that Aytu is a suitable distributor based on the factors set out in the response to Question 1 above.
 
While the Company has not sought US legal counsel advice, the Company notes from the internet that at least three law firms have announced similar " investigations" on behalf of investors in Aytu. These firms have indicated that the press release may be considered " Attorney Advertising" , which the Company understands to be legal advertising by US law firms under the applicable law and ethical rules. The Company also notes that one of the law firm has launched similar investigations in respect of a number of listed entities, not just Aytu.

https://www.biolidics.com/newsroom/biolidics-sgx-queries-announcement-aytu-26042020.pdf
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 Alert Admin 		Wow she still have time can posts so many in 1 day ? 

I thought SIA and Virgin airlines ( SIA own 20stakes in virgin airlines) in big trouble already, dont need her help meh ? 
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 Alert Admin 		You are right...I roughly counted the number of posts she shared / typed today on her fb...it is about 145 .. but still what' s up with that? Hahahaha.

AhLiang      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 23:16) Posted:

I don't believe. If one doesn't sleep at all, one can post only 144 posts a day if one spends on the average of 10 minutes per post. The post I saw clearly needed more than 10 minutes to type.

NT7979      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 20:31) Posted:

See if this works.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1418133081707855& id=100005335308340

just realized she post few hundreds post each day!?!?.. what' s up with her anyway?

CB = Clearbridge.
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 Alert Admin 		I don't believe. If one doesn't sleep at all, one can post only 144 posts a day if one spends on the average of 10 minutes per post. The post I saw clearly needed more than 10 minutes to type.

NT7979      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 20:31) Posted:

See if this works.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1418133081707855& id=100005335308340

just realized she post few hundreds post each day!?!?.. what' s up with her anyway?

CB = Clearbridge.
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 Alert Admin 		https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19

They still need this
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 Alert Admin 		See if this works.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1418133081707855& id=100005335308340

just realized she post few hundreds post each day!?!?.. what' s up with her anyway?

CB = Clearbridge.
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 Alert Admin 		Cant see the link leh...
What?s Cb?

NT7979      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 18:09) Posted:

Not forgetting HC' s infamous recent " Errrr" saga that caused a political drift between SG and Taiwan.

BTW, she have linked a youtube video on the use of different type of test kits available in the market now. Each of them has its own use and purposes including antibody test. Don' t be too quick to rule out any of them yet.

< iframe src=" https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=hhttp://ttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpermalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D1418133081707855%26id%3D100005335308340& width=500" width=" 500" height=" 462" style=" border:none overflow:hidden" scrolling=" no" frameborder=" 0" allowTransparency=" true" allow=" encrypted-media" > < /iframe> Sorry if the link doesnt work here. noobie here

My own thought is every kit has its purpose as of now, and will be improvised in future to be more rapid for PCR and to be more accurate for Antibody test. Personally, I have vested in both CB n Bio at rather high price and lost half of their value on last thurs.
But I strongly believe the future belongs to Bio medical firms such as CB & BIO, as the world needs to anticpate for future wave of COVID.

Hope the rest like me that have vested and burnt on last thurs... will be able to recover soon. 


 

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 Alert Admin 		@actan99, well-said for " OEM, rebranding, exclusivity distributors, dealership , reselling, aiyo so common in supply chain business.   
Just an analogy.
Just like you buy a kia car in spore, u must go to Cycle and carriage singapore and buy.
Why dont fly to korea go kia factory in korea buy 1 unit ? You think korea factory wana sell u 1 unti.
They sell in volumes. Thats why sometimes need middle parties. Lower margins but got volume still ok."     WELL-SAID!!!

actan99      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 18:16) Posted:

China and US always have tensions between them. GEOPOLITICS, Rivalry on the global stage, 

Probaby thats why the US have to find ways to receive the product, from  friendly democratic country. ( Like Singapore )

Maybe the USA wana save face ? At least they can say they buy from singapore and not from China ? 

Thats probably why their disributor in the USA gets the product from Biolidics am I right ?   

OEM, rebranding, exclusivity distributors, dealership , reselling, aiyo so common in supply chain business. 

Just an analogy.
Just like you buy a kia car in spore, u must go to Cycle and carriage singapore and buy.
Why dont fly to korea go kia factory in korea buy 1 unit ? You think korea factory wana sell u 1 unti.
They sell in volumes. Thats why sometimes need middle parties. Lower margins but got volume still ok.   

So its a win win situation for both the USA sides and boliidcs if they can excute it properly right? 

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 Alert Admin 		China and US always have tensions between them. GEOPOLITICS, Rivalry on the global stage, 

Probaby thats why the US have to find ways to receive the product, from  friendly democratic country. ( Like Singapore )

Maybe the USA wana save face ? At least they can say they buy from singapore and not from China ? 

Thats probably why their disributor in the USA gets the product from Biolidics am I right ?   

OEM, rebranding, exclusivity distributors, dealership , reselling, aiyo so common in supply chain business. 

Just an analogy.
Just like you buy a kia car in spore, u must go to Cycle and carriage singapore and buy.
Why dont fly to korea go kia factory in korea buy 1 unit ? You think korea factory wana sell u 1 unti.
They sell in volumes. Thats why sometimes need middle parties. Lower margins but got volume still ok.   

So its a win win situation for both the USA sides and boliidcs if they can excute it properly right? 
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