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Boatman
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08-Jun-2020 11:40
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got 2000 excess and sold off to get some profit | ||||
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Goldfinger
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08-Jun-2020 11:27
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Yes, the prices of the SIA MCBs will be well correlated with the Mother SIA share price. Hence, at this Mother Share price, the attractiveness of the MCBs have increased, especially given that it is only issued at SGD1. Kinda like a leveraged call product.
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Goldfinger
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08-Jun-2020 11:25
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I was quite lucky - I applied for several thousand excess rights shares only, and got allocated two thousand excess rights. So, count myself fortunate. Will celebrate with some MSW durians this weekend.
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Goldfinger
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08-Jun-2020 11:17
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If the global economy does not recover, Citi may face a mountain of bad debt - and it may not survive either. Btw, silly to fight against Temasek. Is Citi crazy?
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08-Jun-2020 11:15
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Citibank is planning to make a killing by likely shorting this stock. Citibank' s extremely negative outlook (Target price: $3.81, Sell) does not take into consideration that the global economy will recover. Citibank is looking to make gains trading in the current/short term. The global economy recovery will be gradual, and it will recover. SIA is one stock considered by the Singapore Government as " too big to fail" . If Singapore did not have their own airline, it will be at the mercy of the regional and international airlines. Think of this: Ever tried connecting flights via Kuala Lumpur? How long a wait did you experience in the transit lounge to connect a flight to Singapore if you came in from other countries, say, Los Angeles, USA? Personally experienced a crazy wait of 2+ hours! For a connecting flight from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore!! SIA is meant to ensure Singapore remains a prominent transport hub in the international scene. If SIA fails, Singapore will fail, slowly but surely. If SIA does not make it as at least a $6 stock in 10 years' time, it will indicate Singapore as a whole is in bad shape. Just my less than 1 cent worth of opinion... Vested in shares and MCBs.    |
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SQueeze
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08-Jun-2020 11:15
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You don' t buy MCB and trade it like shares even if you can ...  Bond is bond. Equity is equity. Different mindset to be at play.  if you don' t sell the MCB until maturity or until redemption, there is zero loss. You will get capital back plus interest which has a schedule to it (4-6%), and at maturity, you get 180% of the capital, then converted at the TERP.  One loses money on MCB only if the MCB is not redeemed and then in 2030 SIA share is less than $2.68 (this is the cost of the share bought today using the MCB route). Or if SIA folds. Only under these 2 scenarios, one loses money with MCB.  It' s a bond, not an equity. 
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littleones
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08-Jun-2020 11:15
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Who got excess rights shares?
Apply for 20000 shares but got 1000 shares only |
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SQueeze
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08-Jun-2020 11:11
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How is " redeemed quickly" be bad? 4% a year. So even if they redeem in half a year, I get 4% added to the capital. These MCBs, unlike shares, will not lose money.  OK, I am on the MCB route because i don' t compare it with shares. I treat it like alternative to fixed deposit. My assessment is SIA credit risk very low. So the capital is safe.  For shares, I am staying away from SIA for now while there are so many uncertainties, and so many hands driving prices everywhere, it' s hard to predict. Past one month, how much max do people earn here? Putting the same money on wall street , say like Citibank I entered last week, it was already up 15% in 2 days. More sure to go up there for now.  But I still believe in SIA long term. Will come back after the dust settles.   
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kingofgamblers
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08-Jun-2020 10:51
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v strong. is it a trap? distri? | ||||
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goldeneye
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08-Jun-2020 10:43
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xtraderx
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08-Jun-2020 10:21
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Unlimited may be wrong word to use, I should say the downside is greater if things go wrong.
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xtraderx
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08-Jun-2020 10:19
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Its capped because SIA can redeem it any time.
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pasttime
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08-Jun-2020 10:18
Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou." |
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mcb upside is not cap. it will go up/down with sia share price. no vested interest yet |
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uiop1223
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08-Jun-2020 10:16
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Just get the SIA ladies to wear more V shape uniform and SIA confirm will have V Shape recovery 🤣 🤣
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Goldfinger
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08-Jun-2020 10:11
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Yes, the MCB is complicated.  So, need to do some reverse calculations. But, my estimate is that it is now in the money. I did not like them when SIA ex-rights were trading at SGD3+.
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TheDuellist
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08-Jun-2020 10:09
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MCB to be listed on 9 June 2020
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lingua101
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08-Jun-2020 10:04
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Sorry why MCB the downside is unlimited?  At most it go $0 right.  So if you subscribe to it, the max lost is $1. BTW, I cannot find this MCB counter (WPOB).  Does it not been traded?
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xtraderx
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08-Jun-2020 10:00
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MCB is no good because the upside is capped but downside is unlimited, I guarantee you that SIA will redeem all its MCBs quickly (and you make very little money) if there is somehow a miraculous recovery. Rights issue at $3 is a much better offer since it offers unlimited upside, can also get out if something goes wrong.
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SAVIORFOREVER
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08-Jun-2020 09:46
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Nothing is impossible since COVID-19.
Trade with caution no contra no short and DYODD
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boyboy61
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08-Jun-2020 09:45
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ypu. just like any bond that is listed. Code : WPOB
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