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ChipEngS - Low PE, High Yield and High NAV in One
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tangsookiam1947
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27-Aug-2015 11:47
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short covering of CES might push price to ~ 70  cents pretty soon... |
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tangsookiam1947
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26-Aug-2015 10:09
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During the Great Financial Crisis, CES was trading at 50% of its book NAV. Now that its book NAV and RNAV are much higher and with most of the profits from development profits already locked in, the current price looks a bit ridiculous.     |
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bishan22
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26-Aug-2015 09:24
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Very soon to join LB and HLS ..... |
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tangsookiam1947
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26-Aug-2015 08:48
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  Market cap is only $400mil now or 60 cents. Revaluation Gain from Hotel = 25 cents (working: $0.82mil per room - cost of $0.45mil per room no of rooms = 440 ) Cash on hand > $310mil. Construction Arm has been earning about 4 cents annually. Assuming an undemanding P/E = 7, valuation will be 28 cents. Hence, revaluation gain from hotel + construction arms already covers its market cap. Has the market entirely and conveniently  forgotten about its :- a. cash holding of > $310mil? b. All its development profits from Nine Residence + Junction 9 (~100% sold) and High Park Residence (super big project, > 80% sold in 2 weeks) + Doncaster project, locked in profit from sales of land parcel in Melbourne. Fulcrum will be re-launched in 2H/2015. This is a very profitable project as well, despite its relatively few units. c.   all its investment properties (CES centre, CBD office property in Melbourne, Ubi centre, shop houses in Tanjong pager, Geylang, etc)   d. TM project though under legal tussle is expected to be resolved in the end. This is a mega profit earner of potential EPS > 20 cents (depreciation of Aussie dollar already factored in).   e. Even without the TM project, RNAV of CES is expected to be ~$1.80 (after the unexpectedly good performance of  its High Park Residence project which is expected to rack in EPS of 18 to 20 cents).   People with little financial knowledge will be quick to judge that CES has a high debt. But these are working capital debt tied to the scale of its development projects and investment properties. With almost all its projects sold out like hot cakes, there is almost little or no risk from the debt perspective. In fact, CES is currently actively looking for new and good value investment properties in Australia CBD area.. |
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tangsookiam1947
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26-Aug-2015 08:40
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Market cap is only $400mil now or 60 cents. Revalation Gain from Hotel = 25 cents (working: $0.82mil per room - cost of $0.45mil per room no of rooms = 440 ) Cash on hand > $310mil. Construction Arm has been earning about 4 cents annually. Assuming an undemanding P/E = 7, valuation will be 28 cents. Hence, revaluation gain from hotel + construction arms already covers its market cap. Has the market entirely and conveniently  forgotten about its :- a. cash holding of > $310mil? b. All its development profits from Nine Residence + Junction 9 (~100% sold) and High Park Residence (super big project, > 80% sold in 2 weeks) + Doncaster project, locked in profit from sales of land parcel in Melbourne c.   all its investment properties (CES centre, CBD office property in Melbourne, Ubi centre, shophouses in tanjong pager, geylang, etc)   People with little financial knowledge will be quick to judge that CES has a high debt. But these are working capital debt tied to the scale of its development projects and investment properties. With almost all its projects sold out like hot cakes, there is almost little or no risk from the debt perspective. In fact, CES is currently actively looking for new and good value investment properties in Australia CBD area...     |
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Lionel84
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25-Aug-2015 16:10
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excluding TM, i think tangsookiam1947 has already mentioned below..based on latest quarter, the litigation is going on but i believe eventually will be settled cash aside, have not even counted in its assets yet..
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25-Aug-2015 15:51
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What about the halfway demolition of Tower Melbourne? 
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Lionel84
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25-Aug-2015 15:50
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no worries about the long term debt...which consists of a few parts: 1) the 150 million notes issue which was overly subscribed 2) the development for high park residences, and had a fantastic response 3) purchase of commercial property in Australia to generate recurrent income, which based on last few quarters, have been increasing substantially
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Jimmykohkk
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25-Aug-2015 15:40
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how much is it' s debt? cash alone  minus away the debt maybe a better guage?
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Lionel84
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25-Aug-2015 14:47
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621 million shares based on latest quarter, at 58 cents gives a value of 360 million cash alone is already 310 million....looks attractive... |
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24-Aug-2015 23:32
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Many years ago. When I bought chip eng seng, the yield is 12%.
Stock market has crashed, property in Asia crashing soon, prepare to see lower to all property stock.
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tangsookiam1947
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24-Aug-2015 23:30
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The Edge Singapore, August 3, 2015
The launch of High Park Residences over the Hari Raya weekend of July 17 to 19 drew crowds from across Singapore. On the first day of balloting, about 4,000 people visited the show flat in Fernvale Road, where close to 600 units were snapped up. July 18 saw a crowd of over 2,000 visitors, and sale of units by balloting ­ continued until 2pm that day. By Sunday evening, 1,100 units had been sold, at an average price of $970 psf. As at July 29, over 1,170 units at High Park Resi­ dences have been taken up. That translates into 84% of the 1,399 units in the development. The 99-year leasehold condo is a joint development by Chip Eng Seng Corp, with a 60% stake, as well as Heeton Holdings and KSH ­ Holdings, each holding 20%. " We expected sales to be strong because we have a great product, good location and attractive ­ pricing," says C B Chng, ­ executive director of CEL Development, the property development arm of Chip Eng Seng. " But we didn' t expect such an overwhelming response." There were so many transactions on the first three days, with over 1,000 caveats lodged for High Park Residences, that the Done Deals table for the week of July 12 to 19 was not able to reflect all the transactions in the project. What is shown is, ­ therefore, only a selection of transactions at High Park Residences. Against a backdrop of sluggish sales weighed down by oversupply concerns, property cooling measures and tightened borrowing limits owing to the total debt servicing ratio, the sheer number of units sold over the three days was " spectacu­ lar" , ­ remarks a property agent who declined to be named. It even surpassed the sales achieved at ­ other projects that were notable for being sold out quickly in recent years. One recent example was The Inflora, where 90% of the 396 units - at an average price of $952 psf - were scooped up on the first day of the VIP preview alone. The project by Hong Leong Holdings was sold out within the first three weeks of its launch in October 2013. Another was The Hillford by World Class Land and Fragrance Group, located in Jalan Jurong ­ Kechil in Upper Bukit Timah. It was the first 60-year leasehold private condo of its kind to be launched in ­ Singapore, and was positioned as a retirement ­ resort. The 281-unit project was sold out within five hours on the first day of its launch in January 2014, at an average price of $1,100 psf. High Park Residences did have a positive spill­ over effect on other projects in Sengkang. The show flat of two executive condo (EC) projects, namely the 651-unit Bellewaters by Qingjian Realty and SingHaiYi Group' s 517-unit The Vales, are located directly opposite High Park Residences' sales gallery. Marketing agents of both ECs reported seeing more walk-in traffic and potential sales the ­ weekend High Park Residences was launched, given the proxi­ mity of the three show flats. However, there are restrictions on buying ECs. For one, it is not open to foreigners and there is a household income ceiling of $12,000 a month. EC buyers are also subjected to the HDB rule which requires buyers to stay in their unit for a mini­ mum of five years before re-selling. At the end of the fifth year, the EC owner can only sell his unit to a Singaporean or permanent resident. It is only ­ after the 10th year that the EC can be ­ traded like any other 99-year leasehold condo and is open to foreign buyers. EC buyers who are HDB second-­ timers will have to pay a resale levy for projects sold after December 2013. Therefore, HDB upgraders will now be subject to a resale levy when they sell their HDB flat to buy a unit at The Vales. ­ However, those ­ buying Bellewaters, where the site was purchased by the developer before December 2013, will not have to pay the resale levy. Owing to the HDB restrictions, EC prices are also priced about 20% lower than that of private ­ condos in the same area. However, EC buyers are entitled to a CPF housing grant, like most first-time HDB buyers. " There is a trade-off when it comes to buying ECs," says a property agent. " But it' s a more ­ affordable way for those who want to make the transition from public to private housing." As High Park Residences is a private condo and does not have any restrictions, the project appeals to both investors and owner-occupiers. The strong sales at the private condo have also provided an ­ uplift to market sentiment, say property agents. The project was jointly marketed by Huttons Asia, ­ OrangeTee and PropNex.
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tangsookiam1947
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24-Aug-2015 23:28
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treetops
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24-Aug-2015 23:16
Yells: "Moments Today, Memories Tomorrow!" |
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Market sentiment not good. Discount not much people dare to in unless you have strong holding power!
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Woods30
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24-Aug-2015 22:22
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AHEM.. now even better the yield ....
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treetops
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24-Aug-2015 16:49
Yells: "Moments Today, Memories Tomorrow!" |
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This one also drop very jialat. Less than 1 month, more than 30% wipe off its value!  |
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20-Aug-2015 12:00
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A few mths ago, I recall reading that sgx was holding an educational  roadshow at NIE for trainee teachers so that they can consider stocks as an investment option to build their nest eggs.  Now, of course we expect teachers to concentrate on teaching n nurturing children, the future of the only commodity we have in this country - HR.  N we shd also mean that if teachers want to wade into the stock mkt it' s really for long-term investment.  I tell u if teachers are gonna invest in the spore stock mkt  they will almost definitely be swallowed up by shortists.  So, imagine while  teachers are in the classrooms, their hearts are minds are anxiously fretting over their falling stocks.  There u have it.  What better story can I share to show the terrible impact the shorting culture in sgx stocks is having on the man in the street in this country.
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20-Aug-2015 11:48
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bad mkt sentiments now.. buy what lose what.. sgx shortists haven.. who dare to long.. all the shortists making loads of $$ while real investors keep paying them.. |
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tangsookiam1947
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20-Aug-2015 09:26
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Current book NAV as of end Q2-2015 = $1.17 Hotel revalution gain = $0.25 (estimate) EPS for 2H-2015 = $0.12 (estimate) EPS for 2016 = $0.17 (estimate) High Park Residence = $0.18 Total RNAV = $1.89 (excluding TM project EPS of $0.20) Current share price = $0.675 or 64% discount to RNAV!!! Dividend Yield is close to 6%!!! |
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tangsookiam1947
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20-Aug-2015 09:24
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Current book NAV as of end Q2-2015 = $1.17 Hotel revalution gain = $0.25 (estimate) EPS for 2H-2015 = $0.12 (estimate) EPS for 2016 = $0.17 (estimate) High Park Residence = $0.18 Total RNAV = $1.89 (including TM project EPS of $0.20) Current share price = $0.675 or 64% discount to RNAV!!! Dividend Yield is close to 6%!!! |
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