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Jimmykohkk Master	04-Jun-2015 16:05        Jimmykohkk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	bro win, u vested??? Looks tasty leh.. or better buy below 80 cents? edwinjup      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 16:03) Posted: Should be.ok.for.long.term....but if there is.a.correction....maybe u can get cheaper..... tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 15:50) Posted: Is buying at 80 cent safe enough? Or should we wait further?
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edwinjup Supreme	04-Jun-2015 16:03        edwinjup About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Should be.ok.for.long.term....but if there is.a.correction....maybe u can get cheaper..... tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 15:50) Posted: Is buying at 80 cent safe enough? Or should we wait further? edwinjup      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 13:40) Posted: Dont too.worry about the div cut...even if ces cut...it just a temporary....will.give more.after yishun and aust.proj.....the % of div cut is not high....just overall market very weak....and ces next div payout is may 201
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 15:50        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Is buying at 80 cent safe enough? Or should we wait further? edwinjup      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 13:40) Posted: Dont too.worry about the div cut...even if ces cut...it just a temporary....will.give more.after yishun and aust.proj.....the % of div cut is not high....just overall market very weak....and ces next div payout is may 2016 tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 13:35) Posted: CES has dropped to 80 cents!!!  How come? Is it going to cut dividend or what???
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 15:30        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone still buying CES now?  or waiting for it to break below 80 cents??? bishan22      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 15:28) Posted: The other brother HLS also pon che too. tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 15:15) Posted: Can CES hold above 80 cents?? if not, next level is 75 cents...
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bishan22 Supreme	04-Jun-2015 15:28        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The other brother HLS also pon che too. tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 15:15) Posted: Can CES hold above 80 cents?? if not, next level is 75 cents...
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 15:15        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can CES hold above 80 cents?? if not, next level is 75 cents...
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 14:04        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Does someone know whether CES has any projects with lots of units unsold? Fulcrum?? TM?
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edwinjup Supreme	04-Jun-2015 13:40        edwinjup About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont too.worry about the div cut...even if ces cut...it just a temporary....will.give more.after yishun and aust.proj.....the % of div cut is not high....just overall market very weak....and ces next div payout is may 2016 tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 04-Jun-2015 13:35) Posted: CES has dropped to 80 cents!!!  How come? Is it going to cut dividend or what???
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 13:39        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No point buying at 80 cents if the company cannot maintain the 4 cent dividend rite?? if the property sector  is going to be at the start of a long term downward, then property counters have a long long way to go to correct downwards?? Can anyone here help to analyze?
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tangsookiam1947 Master	04-Jun-2015 13:35        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CES has dropped to 80 cents!!!  How come? Is it going to cut dividend or what???
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Qanghoo Supreme	04-Jun-2015 09:09        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Media always like to generalise n sensationalise.  But like I said which business does not have risk.  Can anyone recommend an investment without risk.  If u look at HP Res, they still got six yrs to go before QC penalty kicks in.  By then, who knows, properties cld be selling like hot cakes again.  Tender low px, sell low still can make $$$.  Anyway, they also do the constn n earn $$$ from it n are better placed to manage cost better.  I' m not bothered n not scared at all.  Period.  tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 23:50) Posted: http://www.btinvest.com.sg/dailyfree/unsold-homes-big-drag-developers-coffers-20140607/   looks very scary ..... Can someone help to assess CES' risk?
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Qanghoo Supreme	04-Jun-2015 06:16        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For a mkt to exist, there are sellers n buyers.  Sellers we can say short.  But buyers leh ...... So, if no one long how come got sale done?  tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 23:57) Posted: How to long in this type of climate?  it is even more scary to launch properties sales in this type of environment.... Interest rate hike coming soon also...sigh anonymoustrader      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 11:06) Posted: anyone longing this counter?
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victortan Elite	04-Jun-2015 00:41        victortan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if rate increase , it is also gradual, little by little, it wont effect so much till maybe 2 years later,. I think property is still a buy for me,  I believe Fed will rise rate at end of the yr, GDP is lousy, so is most data. I think rate will only cause harmn in 2017.
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tangsookiam1947 Master	03-Jun-2015 23:57        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How to long in this type of climate?  it is even more scary to launch properties sales in this type of environment.... Interest rate hike coming soon also...sigh anonymoustrader      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 11:06) Posted: anyone longing this counter?
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tangsookiam1947 Master	03-Jun-2015 23:53        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How much is dividend expected to be cut? less than 4 cents??? edwinjup      ( Date: 25-May-2015 10:59) Posted: Hotel don' t really need a lots of money Liao..yishun and aust projects are the one that need a lots of funds....thus a cut of dividend is possible to reduce loan ...but long term still good.... tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 24-May-2015 15:45) Posted: Hotel needs money to run rite? e.g. need to train stuff, operating expense, etc In the first few years, is there the possibility that hotel operations might incur losses? because the occupany rate will be low and the hotel room rates are depressed to attract people to come.
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tangsookiam1947 Master	03-Jun-2015 23:52        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Square Foot Research added, &ldquo The price in the primary market, however, is noticeably lower than recent transaction prices in the secondary market on a per-square-foot basis. With more than 80 percent of the units sold, the developer should have profited from the development and may not see the need to reduce prices immediately. The estimated fees payable to extend its deadline to sell also does not appear to be substantial.&rdquo Under the Residential Property Act&rsquo s QC rules, all developers with non-Singaporean directors or stockholders need to obtain their private housing projects&rsquo Temporary Occupation Permit (TOP) within 5 years, and sell all units within two years thereafter. Failure to comply with this timetable would result in developers forfeiting their banker&rsquo s guarantee of 10 percent of the land purchase price. &ldquo To extend the deadline, developers will have pay an additional 8 percent, 16 percent and 24 percent of the land purchase price for the first, second and subsequent years respectively. The amount is pro-rated accordingly to the proportion of unsold units,&rdquo the report said.
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tangsookiam1947 Master	03-Jun-2015 23:50        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.btinvest.com.sg/dailyfree/unsold-homes-big-drag-developers-coffers-20140607/   looks very scary ..... Can someone help to assess CES' risk?
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tangsookiam1947 Master	03-Jun-2015 22:14        tangsookiam1947 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If got hit by QC penalty because of unsold units, HOW??
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Qanghoo Supreme	03-Jun-2015 14:44        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	We all buy share got risk so don' t buy, especially sgx mkt.  Wait all money kena makan by chng kay.  Better put money in bank, at least got 1% interest a yr.  But bank also not considered completely risk free.  Or don' t touch CPF money.  Garment guarantee abt 3% interest risk free or at least risk is lower than bank cos no guarantee.    That' s the best right. Qanghoo      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 14:39) Posted: Aiyah, all business sure got risk one.  Businessmen with experience n good judgement n good track record take risks got more chance to succeed one.  If no risk how to make $$$.  Construction got risk, don' t tender. Hotel got risk, don' t open, property got risk don' t buy land to build.  In the end profit sure negative cos still got fixed costs to pay.  So, the biggest risk is don' t take any risk lah.  tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 12:11) Posted: understand that chip is going to roll out High Park residence with 1600 units!!!!   isnt this very risky in this housing climate???
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Qanghoo Supreme	03-Jun-2015 14:39        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Aiyah, all business sure got risk one.  Businessmen with experience n good judgement n good track record take risks got more chance to succeed one.  If no risk how to make $$$.  Construction got risk, don' t tender. Hotel got risk, don' t open, property got risk don' t buy land to build.  In the end profit sure negative cos still got fixed costs to pay.  So, the biggest risk is don' t take any risk lah.  tangsookiam1947      ( Date: 03-Jun-2015 12:11) Posted: understand that chip is going to roll out High Park residence with 1600 units!!!!   isnt this very risky in this housing climate???
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