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Francischan Veteran	21-Mar-2016 10:00        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Three is refining and repackage its proposal for its takeover offer for O2.  Three is inviting a Significant strategic shareholder to take up a significant stake ?  If so, who is it ? Will it be Singtel ? Starhub ? M 1 ?
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Qanghoo Supreme	19-Mar-2016 18:14        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Here' s another one from an obvious psychopath.  Really uncalled for remarks for which just ignored at first until he thought he was having it all his way.  So, for unsuspecting forumers, just be warned.  Just go check out some of the meaningless babblings in other threads n u' d find that he' s just regurgitating sh*t through the mouth.  Francischan      ( Date: 16-Mar-2016 13:04) Posted: Don' t listen to qanghoo. Cozy his kungfu not even amateur standard.  My advice :  For holders , don' t sell . Hold. Wait for April and May. Don' t ask me why.  For buyers , don' t buy now too. Wait for Apr and May too.
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justinetan Member	19-Mar-2016 09:55        justinetan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	On last Friday, both PCCW and HKT had a good trading price rise on the HKEX. Hope this will translate to PCRD trading too.
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justinetan Member	17-Mar-2016 08:07        justinetan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Francischan, it is undoubted that PCRD is undervalued. Thanks for your passion and belief. Vested.
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Francischan Veteran	17-Mar-2016 03:48        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Vested not a lot. Holding on to PCRD tightly. As I want to hold on to HK Telco Crown Jewel PCCW tightly. My friend just told me, everyone nowadays can don' t eat, but cannot live without a handphone.  An insurance company years ago if monthly premium per client is say $100 a month, after giving out high commissions to their agents , they still make so much . How about these Telcos nowadays ?  1 household say 5 pax, monthly contributions to Telco more than $ 250 per month. For mobile, for cable tv, for broadband. No wonder every Telco in Singapore Singtel, Starhub and M1 ALL reported envious profits year after year. So much so that MyRepublic who is now backed by Brunei Telco funds   also want a pie of it.
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Francischan Veteran	16-Mar-2016 15:41        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Look at that REACTION. Throw to $0.385 , $0.38.  No reaction means my analysis is wrong. Have reaction means my analysis is correct ?
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Francischan Veteran	16-Mar-2016 13:16        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The reason why I ask buyers not to buy now is because :  1. We are not sure if so and so already holds more than 90% of holdings. How is this possible ? Proxy holders. Like allies . Friends.  So, if really so, they gain multi ways, if you know what I mean, past 10 years track record makes people just more cautious that' s all.  2. Super boy may look like super man in the Hollywood movies. But still there is some difference, right ? Francischan      ( Date: 16-Mar-2016 13:04) Posted: Don' t listen to qanghoo. Cozy his kungfu not even amateur standard.  My advice :  For holders , don' t sell . Hold. Wait for April and May. Don' t ask me why.  For buyers , don' t buy now too. Wait for Apr and May too.
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Francischan Veteran	16-Mar-2016 13:04        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t listen to qanghoo. Cozy his kungfu not even amateur standard.  My advice :  For holders , don' t sell . Hold. Wait for April and May. Don' t ask me why.  For buyers , don' t buy now too. Wait for Apr and May too.
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Qanghoo Supreme	16-Mar-2016 10:30        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They need abt 26 mil to reach 90%, I think, n probably wldn' t mind bidding their time soaking up at current px.  It might take another yr n this shldn' t bother them.  After all, they' ve been hanghing on for so long.  So, personally, I wldn' t waste time with this one.  The opportunity cost cld  probably be better spent making up in other counters.  KAMAL0883      ( Date: 16-Mar-2016 09:04) Posted: If they are trying to press low and buy cheap also a risk for them cos some other parties might buy in along the way also.   Qanghoo      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 17:21) Posted: Brother, assuming they are manoeuvring to delist, qn is what px wld they offer.    At this rate, they cld keep soaking up at current px till they reach  90% n call for a  delisting at current px.  Where wld minorities stand?    Some hopefuls had probably been accummulating at up to 46c or higher.  On the other hand, share  px has gradually been brought down to < 40c.  Does it make sense to keep sitting it out?   I wld prefer not to  take a bet the way things stand ....
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	16-Mar-2016 09:04        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If they are trying to press low and buy cheap also a risk for them cos some other parties might buy in along the way also.   Qanghoo      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 17:21) Posted: Brother, assuming they are manoeuvring to delist, qn is what px wld they offer.    At this rate, they cld keep soaking up at current px till they reach  90% n call for a  delisting at current px.  Where wld minorities stand?    Some hopefuls had probably been accummulating at up to 46c or higher.  On the other hand, share  px has gradually been brought down to < 40c.  Does it make sense to keep sitting it out?   I wld prefer not to  take a bet the way things stand .... KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:57) Posted: s.h.i.t. ..... whole morning sellers place 69.9 lot then i went in and buy 8 lots suddenly seller increase to 110.9 lot then i go in again but the 100 lots disappeared wdf is this ????
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	16-Mar-2016 08:58        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	at least 15% to 20 % premium to show their sincerity bah ..... 50 to 60 cents no big deal for them sharenewbie0301      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 17:25) Posted: But delist will be generous? Im ok with holding this share since the company still doing well. KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:38) Posted: 100% will delist from SGX but the management very cunning, they do not want to push up px much higer otherwise they will have to force out more cash for the remaining which they they do not own. last year they even did many rounds of share buy back aboe 42 cents ... if you already holding for sometime then give yourself somemore times ....
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	16-Mar-2016 08:54        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	LOL sound logical Thanks Brother , with so little volume I can still play along with them . Francischan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 21:17) Posted:   Lol. I find the wdf is this .....very funny, u sound like Donald the trump.  My shrewd observations over these 2 years :  My guess. The sell queue is to prevent the price from rocketing too high.   So it was put out there by BB " allies"   to deter people from buying Up thus hoping retailers who hold PCRD shares will throw to the buy bid due to patience wearing off.  But I also guess it is programmed in such a way as ,   if put up sell queue at say 200 lot $0.40 , if someone eats it up say 50 lots, it will auto reduce by half or even more so that to prevent retailers or other institutional sharks from eating them up (to eat up their shares is not their motive) then it will also at the same time by auto programming auto sell to buy bid at say $0.395 at say 20 lot so as to deter and reduce interest in buying it up.  Why not much institutional funds buy PCRD then ? My guess : all are friendly funds who want to create goodwill with the who and who though i m not sure who is the who and who. Not that confusing right ?    KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:57) Posted: s.h.i.t. ..... whole morning sellers place 69.9 lot then i went in and buy 8 lots suddenly seller increase to 110.9 lot then i go in again but the 100 lots disappeared wdf is this ????
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sharenewbie0301 Veteran	16-Mar-2016 08:45        sharenewbie0301 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This 60mil is equivalent to how much per share? Francischan      ( Date: 15-Mar-2016 02:07) Posted: Based on the Final Dividend of HKD 0.1704 per share, it is equivalent to about more than S$ 60 million cash payout to PCRD shareholders.  How will PCRD uses this more than S$ 60 million cash dividends from PCCW ?  1. Distribute as dividends to PCRD shareholders ==> very unlikely 2. Use it to buy back PCRD shares ==> possible but very unlikely as too much cash, over budget  3. Opt for PCCW share scrips instead of taking cash dividends ==> most likely and most logically  PCCW is the crown jewel. As for PCRD, already close to 90% so whatever left remaining is Sup Sup Soy. (Cantonese slang for as easy as abc)  Francischan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 11:33) Posted: It infuriates investors when during bullish ups in both HK and Singapore, PCRD Pacific Century who owns substantial stakes in both PCCW (the crown jewel in HK telco market) and HKT got " a bit dramatically slammed and " pressed down" "   to not really justify its value to its shareholders.  See below. When did PCCW start its Scrip Option for its dividends payments ?  And when did PCRD start buying Shares Back in " full force" from SGX open market purchases even utilizing 100% of its 1st 10% allocation . Now the 2nd 10% PCRD already utilizes more than 3% and about 6.5% to go (more than enough to grab 3% of total listed shares here in Singapore with this super cheap price of $0.385 . What a steal ! )  PCRD, I reckon, needs less than 2% to cross the 90% to trigger The Privatization of PCRD . Their intentions and objectives are clear. I would not want to state the obvious here.  I just hope a fair Offer to be offered to the remaining shareholders of PCRD if they really want to take it private. If my business idol Mr LKS can offer a wonderful deal to the difficult counterpart across the other Continent, please be fair to your supportive and nicer neighbor here in Asia.  Then business history books shall have better stories to tell to the next next generations.   Entitlement Date Announced Ex-date Details Financial year end B/C date Payment date* 26/02/2016 09/05/2016   Fin Div HKD 0.1704 (with scrip option)   31/12/2015   11/05/2016 - 12/05/2016   21/06/2016   06/08/2015 24/08/2015   Int Div HKD 0.0796 (with scrip option)   31/12/2015   26/08/2015 - 27/08/2015   07/10/2015   11/02/2015 11/05/2015   Fin Div HKD 0.1321 (with scrip option)   31/12/2014   13/05/2015 - 14/05/2015   19/06/2015   06/08/2014 25/08/2014   Int Div HKD 0.0699 (with scrip option)   31/12/2014   27/08/2014 - 28/08/2014   07/10/2014   27/02/2014 12/05/2014   Fin Div HKD 0.1385 (with scrip option)   31/12/2013   14/05/2014 - 15/05/2014   20/06/2014   06/08/2013 10/09/2013   Int Div HKD 0.0635   31/12/2013   12/09/2013 - 13/09/2013   04/10/2013   27/02/2013 14/05/2013   Fin Div HKD 0.1355   31/12/2012   16/05/2013 - 20/05/2013   05/06/2013   10/08/2012 11/09/2012
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justinetan Member	16-Mar-2016 08:24        justinetan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	PCRD shares are probably being cornered with the free float at about less than 10.3% (estimated). It is all.decided by the controlling shareholder.
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Francischan Veteran	15-Mar-2016 02:07        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Based on the Final Dividend of HKD 0.1704 per share, it is equivalent to about more than S$ 60 million cash payout to PCRD shareholders.  How will PCRD uses this more than S$ 60 million cash dividends from PCCW ?  1. Distribute as dividends to PCRD shareholders ==> very unlikely 2. Use it to buy back PCRD shares ==> possible but very unlikely as too much cash, over budget  3. Opt for PCCW share scrips instead of taking cash dividends ==> most likely and most logically  PCCW is the crown jewel. As for PCRD, already close to 90% so whatever left remaining is Sup Sup Soy. (Cantonese slang for as easy as abc)  Francischan      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 11:33) Posted: It infuriates investors when during bullish ups in both HK and Singapore, PCRD Pacific Century who owns substantial stakes in both PCCW (the crown jewel in HK telco market) and HKT got " a bit dramatically slammed and " pressed down" "   to not really justify its value to its shareholders.  See below. When did PCCW start its Scrip Option for its dividends payments ?  And when did PCRD start buying Shares Back in " full force" from SGX open market purchases even utilizing 100% of its 1st 10% allocation . Now the 2nd 10% PCRD already utilizes more than 3% and about 6.5% to go (more than enough to grab 3% of total listed shares here in Singapore with this super cheap price of $0.385 . What a steal ! )  PCRD, I reckon, needs less than 2% to cross the 90% to trigger The Privatization of PCRD . Their intentions and objectives are clear. I would not want to state the obvious here.  I just hope a fair Offer to be offered to the remaining shareholders of PCRD if they really want to take it private. If my business idol Mr LKS can offer a wonderful deal to the difficult counterpart across the other Continent, please be fair to your supportive and nicer neighbor here in Asia.  Then business history books shall have better stories to tell to the next next generations.   Entitlement Date Announced Ex-date Details Financial year end B/C date Payment date* 26/02/2016 09/05/2016   Fin Div HKD 0.1704 (with scrip option)   31/12/2015   11/05/2016 - 12/05/2016   21/06/2016   06/08/2015 24/08/2015   Int Div HKD 0.0796 (with scrip option)   31/12/2015   26/08/2015 - 27/08/2015   07/10/2015   11/02/2015 11/05/2015   Fin Div HKD 0.1321 (with scrip option)   31/12/2014   13/05/2015 - 14/05/2015   19/06/2015   06/08/2014 25/08/2014   Int Div HKD 0.0699 (with scrip option)   31/12/2014   27/08/2014 - 28/08/2014   07/10/2014   27/02/2014 12/05/2014   Fin Div HKD 0.1385 (with scrip option)   31/12/2013   14/05/2014 - 15/05/2014   20/06/2014   06/08/2013 10/09/2013   Int Div HKD 0.0635   31/12/2013   12/09/2013 - 13/09/2013   04/10/2013   27/02/2013 14/05/2013   Fin Div HKD 0.1355   31/12/2012   16/05/2013 - 20/05/2013   05/06/2013   10/08/2012 11/09/2012
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Francischan Veteran	14-Mar-2016 21:17        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol. I find the wdf is this .....very funny, u sound like Donald the trump.  My shrewd observations over these 2 years :  My guess. The sell queue is to prevent the price from rocketing too high.   So it was put out there by BB " allies"   to deter people from buying Up thus hoping retailers who hold PCRD shares will throw to the buy bid due to patience wearing off.  But I also guess it is programmed in such a way as ,   if put up sell queue at say 200 lot $0.40 , if someone eats it up say 50 lots, it will auto reduce by half or even more so that to prevent retailers or other institutional sharks from eating them up (to eat up their shares is not their motive) then it will also at the same time by auto programming auto sell to buy bid at say $0.395 at say 20 lot so as to deter and reduce interest in buying it up.  Why not much institutional funds buy PCRD then ? My guess : all are friendly funds who want to create goodwill with the who and who though i m not sure who is the who and who. Not that confusing right ?    KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:57) Posted: s.h.i.t. ..... whole morning sellers place 69.9 lot then i went in and buy 8 lots suddenly seller increase to 110.9 lot then i go in again but the 100 lots disappeared wdf is this ????
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Francischan Veteran	14-Mar-2016 17:39        Francischan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The " Biggest" mistake Mr LKS right hand man did was to use Three to bid for O2. If they seek my advice, my advice would be : A Consortium consisting PCRD, Singtel and etc etc to launch a bid for Telefonica' s O2 last year. This should be the right strategy.
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sharenewbie0301 Veteran	14-Mar-2016 17:25        sharenewbie0301 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	But delist will be generous? Im ok with holding this share since the company still doing well. KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:38) Posted: 100% will delist from SGX but the management very cunning, they do not want to push up px much higer otherwise they will have to force out more cash for the remaining which they they do not own. last year they even did many rounds of share buy back aboe 42 cents ... if you already holding for sometime then give yourself somemore times .... sharenewbie0301      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:29) Posted: I hold until sian already.Now still holding. The m and a talk already 1year
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Qanghoo Supreme	14-Mar-2016 17:21        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Brother, assuming they are manoeuvring to delist, qn is what px wld they offer.    At this rate, they cld keep soaking up at current px till they reach  90% n call for a  delisting at current px.  Where wld minorities stand?    Some hopefuls had probably been accummulating at up to 46c or higher.  On the other hand, share  px has gradually been brought down to < 40c.  Does it make sense to keep sitting it out?   I wld prefer not to  take a bet the way things stand .... KAMAL0883      ( Date: 14-Mar-2016 16:57) Posted: s.h.i.t. ..... whole morning sellers place 69.9 lot then i went in and buy 8 lots suddenly seller increase to 110.9 lot then i go in again but the 100 lots disappeared wdf is this ????
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	14-Mar-2016 16:57        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	s.h.i.t. ..... whole morning sellers place 69.9 lot then i went in and buy 8 lots suddenly seller increase to 110.9 lot then i go in again but the 100 lots disappeared wdf is this ????
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