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tritonyeah666 Elite	31-Oct-2018 17:11        tritonyeah666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
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Qanghoo Supreme	31-Oct-2018 14:03        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	William Liem had said in the passt there are benefits of being listed n he indicated that TS wld remain so.  So, if we take his words as they are then TS is ' safe' .  But one can never tell..... Goldfinger      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 08:06) Posted: I hope the founders do not take the opportunity to take over this cheap now.  This before the SGX completes its review of the proposed rules for a better and fairer exit offer price for minorities.  If they do, then the SGX must look into any possible acts of unfairness. ​ Anyway, they are hidden hands behind this counter I suspect.  There are many ways for potential suitors to take over a stock, including through accumulation and off market transfers/sales.  It is debatable whether the authorities can pick this up, if at all. Ramdonwalk      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 07:58) Posted: Every property stock has fallen about 30-50% in the last 6-12 months. Oxley is one of the worse hit. Tuan Seng has always been undervalued, for reason unknown to many. This property player is neither here nor there. It just survives quietly in the midst of property boom and bust. If there is a suitor, it would have happened long time ago, so dont hope.
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ysh2006 Supreme	31-Oct-2018 13:07        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If example Chip Eng Seng sold their shares to a lady boss at $1.08 at only 29.7%,later the owner surpress the share price to let say 55c than launch a RTO to offer 85c , she would benefited from earning extra money  for not need to come out 70.3% for the rest  at $1.08  initially..... Goldfinger      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 09:14) Posted: Sorry, I meant " There could be hidden hands behind this counter... etc" .  Sometimes the existing majorities could also be the victim of attacks and hostile attempts to takeover companies.  Short sell companies and syndicates are also often at work.  Things may not be so clear sometimes and the authorties should clamp down hard on any unfair take-overs by hostile elements trying to get in at a super low price, that are unfair to both majority and minorities. Goldfinger      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 08:06) Posted: I hope the founders do not take the opportunity to take over this cheap now.  This before the SGX completes its review of the proposed rules for a better and fairer exit offer price for minorities.  If they do, then the SGX must look into any possible acts of unfairness. ​ Anyway, they are hidden hands behind this counter I suspect.  There are many ways for potential suitors to take over a stock, including through accumulation and off market transfers/sales.  It is debatable whether the authorities can pick this up, if at all
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Goldfinger Supreme	31-Oct-2018 09:14        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry, I meant " There could be hidden hands behind this counter... etc" .  Sometimes the existing majorities could also be the victim of attacks and hostile attempts to takeover companies.  Short sell companies and syndicates are also often at work.  Things may not be so clear sometimes and the authorties should clamp down hard on any unfair take-overs by hostile elements trying to get in at a super low price, that are unfair to both majority and minorities. Goldfinger      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 08:06) Posted: I hope the founders do not take the opportunity to take over this cheap now.  This before the SGX completes its review of the proposed rules for a better and fairer exit offer price for minorities.  If they do, then the SGX must look into any possible acts of unfairness. ​ Anyway, they are hidden hands behind this counter I suspect.  There are many ways for potential suitors to take over a stock, including through accumulation and off market transfers/sales.  It is debatable whether the authorities can pick this up, if at all. Ramdonwalk      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 07:58) Posted: Every property stock has fallen about 30-50% in the last 6-12 months. Oxley is one of the worse hit. Tuan Seng has always been undervalued, for reason unknown to many. This property player is neither here nor there. It just survives quietly in the midst of property boom and bust. If there is a suitor, it would have happened long time ago, so dont hope.
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tritonyeah666 Elite	31-Oct-2018 08:19        tritonyeah666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yeah their sharebuyback patterns and Nuri Holdings director disclosures do seem suspect but I think they were also caught off guard by the sell-off.
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Goldfinger Supreme	31-Oct-2018 08:06        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I hope the founders do not take the opportunity to take over this cheap now.  This before the SGX completes its review of the proposed rules for a better and fairer exit offer price for minorities.  If they do, then the SGX must look into any possible acts of unfairness. ​ Anyway, they are hidden hands behind this counter I suspect.  There are many ways for potential suitors to take over a stock, including through accumulation and off market transfers/sales.  It is debatable whether the authorities can pick this up, if at all. Ramdonwalk      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 07:58) Posted: Every property stock has fallen about 30-50% in the last 6-12 months. Oxley is one of the worse hit. Tuan Seng has always been undervalued, for reason unknown to many. This property player is neither here nor there. It just survives quietly in the midst of property boom and bust. If there is a suitor, it would have happened long time ago, so dont hope.
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Ramdonwalk Member	31-Oct-2018 07:58        Ramdonwalk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Every property stock has fallen about 30-50% in the last 6-12 months. Oxley is one of the worse hit. Tuan Seng has always been undervalued, for reason unknown to many. This property player is neither here nor there. It just survives quietly in the midst of property boom and bust. If there is a suitor, it would have happened long time ago, so dont hope.
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SgYuan Supreme	31-Oct-2018 07:55        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	that is a example. and that is w1 w0 325 w1?375 w2?345 If w2 supported then w3 come. If not supported, next low come. ysh2006      ( Date: 31-Oct-2018 07:28) Posted: So w2 formation will tgt 37.5c har... SgYuan      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 21:04) Posted: Example w0 325 w1?375 w1 50 w2 30 tgt 345 dn 61.8% - w2 formation is dn 61.8% - this is call w2 formation - w2 formation break if px hit w0 So it is still possible to lose. But the lost is not as great. I have no luck. But u play with % of risk
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ysh2006 Supreme	31-Oct-2018 07:28        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So w2 formation will tgt 37.5c har... SgYuan      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 21:04) Posted: Example w0 325 w1?375 w1 50 w2 30 tgt 345 dn 61.8% - w2 formation is dn 61.8% - this is call w2 formation - w2 formation break if px hit w0 So it is still possible to lose. But the lost is not as great. I have no luck. But u play with % of risk. ysh2006      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 20:57) Posted: Mr Sg Yuan may know w2 tgt how much ? The coy share buy back at 33c yesterday...
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SgYuan Supreme	30-Oct-2018 21:04        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Example w0 325 w1?375 w1 50 w2 30 tgt 345 dn 61.8% - w2 formation is dn 61.8% - this is call w2 formation - w2 formation break if px hit w0 So it is still possible to lose. But the lost is not as great. I have no luck. But u play with % of risk. ysh2006      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 20:57) Posted: Mr Sg Yuan may know w2 tgt how much ? The coy share buy back at 33c yesterday.... SgYuan      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 20:33) Posted: w0 275 w4 305 w5 500 wabc now - now px hit low 325 - tgt near w4 305 px hit 325 and rebound a little. Wait for w2 formation No 100% Good luck
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ysh2006 Supreme	30-Oct-2018 20:57        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Mr Sg Yuan may know w2 tgt how much ? The coy share buy back at 33c yesterday.... SgYuan      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 20:33) Posted: w0 275 w4 305 w5 500 wabc now - now px hit low 325 - tgt near w4 305 px hit 325 and rebound a little. Wait for w2 formation No 100% Good luck
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SgYuan Supreme	30-Oct-2018 20:33        SgYuan About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	w0 275 w4 305 w5 500 wabc now - now px hit low 325 - tgt near w4 305 px hit 325 and rebound a little. Wait for w2 formation No 100% Good luck
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Goldfinger Supreme	30-Oct-2018 20:05        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Prudential tower with a run down 99 year lease is going for $3,200psf asking.
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Goldfinger Supreme	30-Oct-2018 20:03        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Careful and not comparable - CG was a related party sale from CapLand, ,2.5 years ago and it?s 99 years. Think it?s also a run down lease. tritonyeah666      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 19:43) Posted: Capitagreen psf seems to be 2,276 and it's grade A office too and located within the same vicinity.
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tritonyeah666 Elite	30-Oct-2018 19:43        tritonyeah666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Capitagreen psf seems to be 2,276 and it's grade A office too and located within the same vicinity.
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ysh2006 Supreme	30-Oct-2018 17:18        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	min 45c by next year ... ysh2006      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 13:05) Posted: Yesterday Tuan Sing buy back it shares at 33c....so add reval price can go to min   45c in Jan 2019 ? tritonyeah666      ( Date: 30-Oct-2018 10:27) Posted: Basis 625 mio, reval gains shld be around 0.10-0.12 gains on share price. That is if the market is rational and there is an analyst report that triggers it. But it should probably only happen in Jan 2019.
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tritonyeah666 Elite	30-Oct-2018 15:56        tritonyeah666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More confirmation bias: Good for TS? Share Article: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/real-estate/singapore-office-landlords-get-upper-hand-as-rentals-jump?xtor=CS3-25
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canalrat Member	30-Oct-2018 15:50        canalrat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-30/singapore-office-landlords-get-upper-hand-as-rentals-jump " An index published by the Urban Redevelopment Authority that tracks rents for Singapore&rsquo s central area rose by 3 percent in the three months ended Sept. 30 from the previous quarter, the biggest jump since the June quarter of 2014. Grade A office rents are expected to rise by 11 percent this year and 9 percent in 2019, according to Cushman & Wakefield Inc."
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tritonyeah666 Elite	30-Oct-2018 14:56        tritonyeah666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TS sharebuyback yesterday 50 lots, July was 500 lots while in April this was 100 lots.
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Goldfinger Supreme	30-Oct-2018 13:42        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You' re right - the last valuation report in January 2018 put the value of R18 at $486million.  I personally think a valuation of $700million is not unfair, ie $2,800psf for 250,000 sq ft. I am not sure if there will be any adjustment factor given that some of the GFA would be for car parks and public spaces like atriums and lift lobbies. ​ Certainly looking forward to the revised valuation of R18.  Freehold land is very rare in Raffles Place area, and the last transactions I recall were all above $3,000 psf for 99 year old property. ​ Qanghoo      ( Date: 29-Oct-2018 19:43) Posted: Last valuation was 486 mil.  I believe on TOP cld be ard 580-600 mil.  RP, which is abt diagonally opposite was valued at 362 mil n RP is abt 2/3 times that of R18 in lettable area.  So, if RP cld be valued at ard 370 in the next valuation, R18 shd be ard 555 mil.  Given that R18 is brand new, n its greater proximity to Raffles Place MRT Stn, I think a value of 580-600 mil cld reasonably be expected.  Goldfinger      ( Date: 29-Oct-2018 19:17) Posted: Btw - does anyone know the booked value of R18 to-date? I can get a better sense of the potential revaluation gains then. Thanks.
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