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ComfortDelGro fundamentally strong but price weak
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alexchew
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05-Jan 10:37
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kinda funny ppl talk abt CDG, and ignoring Singapore market? Did you even read and understand what you are buying into? Also, did you understand who is backing uber and grab and many more car sharing apps (by the way, there are more than 2 car sharing companies out there)... The big guys, are big and have infinite money to burn. They are buying into the future, and with CD, ppl are buying because of their past and what they have done.  And with taxi companies, you will know that the management have been in this business for many years, and have make tons of money. Oh by the way, it used to be a monopoly business. Not many competitors and nv have to deal with new entrants. So, i will think this is a big deal for them and maybe too big a threat for them to get over. Of course, they are already very rich, and can use this opportunity to retire already. So, you have to think, if they want to allocate more money to win back the market share a not as an investor...
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investshare
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05-Jan-2017 10:28
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Singapore contributes 60%.
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investshare
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05-Jan-2017 10:22
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From CDG own forecast, only rail biz to improve, the rest either maintain or decrease.
http://www.comfortdelgro.com.sg/uploads/FS/CDG_3Q16%20Slides.pdf |
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brchkho1
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04-Jan-2017 17:17
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As an investor, I am not too overly concern with Uber & Grab as both are still in cash burning stage, not sure how long those privateinvestors are prepared to continuing pumping cash. For CDG, it' s business is no longer relying on SG market. Am confidence of it' s mangement to run CDG.  
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alexchew
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04-Jan-2017 11:39
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thanks for pointing out. You seemed to be of the opinion that uber only affects singapore then? Kinda optimistic in your thoughts. The problem of CD or all taxi company in the world is,they have no answer for private car hires now. The penetration rate of uber is only at a relatively small % now, kinda terrifying if they manage to double it in a few years time.  Many old CD drivers are actually holding on to its shares and i hope CD will not be dropping down sharply of course. Else, their retirement plan, will be spoiled. 
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investshare
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04-Jan-2017 10:55
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how' s their revenue breakdown by country? 
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04-Jan-2017 06:40
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What I like about CDG is that they have always been exceptionally transparent about their financial accounts, esp for their annual reports. It' s not hard to make a guesstimate on the proportion of profits/revenue coming from all of their various divisions within the group. DYODD. |
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The_Crow
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03-Jan-2017 22:16
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lol RHB only focus on the good news (oversea acquisition news). The bank didn' t even bother to update their TP to reflect the bad news: OPEC deal and increase intensity in competition as reflected by TransCab decision to slash rental price. Such baisness...   By the way, why use FCFF valuation model when CDG has constant dividend payout? By using FCFF RHB has to vaguely estimate the cost of debt for CDG debts which are not even traded in the market- one more vague element in a valuation model = less accrurate TP...
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KAMAL0883
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03-Jan-2017 18:39
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if CD only depend on SG market then close shop long ago liao
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alexchew
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03-Jan-2017 18:04
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i think, younger population will use grab to get private cars instead of taxi (unless surge demand). Older generation, will still stick to taxi for time being. It' s only a matter of time they will switch. So, taxi will get a smaller share of riders (in absolute number), year on year. Esp, now with tourism coming down, it is even hitting them harder.  Also, most taxi drivers are older in age, and by natural attriution when they retire, this will affect the number of taxi leased. Unless the rental rates comes down, it will be hard for CDG to retain old drivers and ATTRACT new drivers eventually. 
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KAMAL0883
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03-Jan-2017 17:54
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Overseas acquisition driving growth ComfortDelGro ■ has announced the acquisition of the remaining 49% stake in its Australian bus business, CDC. ■ The acquisition price of A$186m (S$196m), based on 4.6x 2015 EBITDA, is palatable and should not be a stretch to the group&rsquo s balance sheet, in our view. ■ We raise our FY17-18F EPS by 3.9-5% to reflect the positive impact on the group&rsquo s net profit from the additional stake in CDC. ■ We maintain our Add call on ComfortDelGro, with a slightly higher target price of S$2.91, based on CY17F DCF (WACC: 7.0%). |
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evergreen3
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29-Dec-2016 20:42
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It might not be taxi coy milking riders for a long time... Just that uber and grab (private-hire cars) are too aggressive in their money-throwing habits...as long as they keep throwing money away to benefit drivers and passengers...taxi companies will suffer...especially the smaller ones (maybe wind up)...and  yes  (psychological aspect too) -  who wants to drive a taxi when they can drive a private car and be a chauffeur instead of a taxi driver... I believe if regulation cannot set in fast and sufficient enough...the taxi model got to be revamped...if not every year market share of taxis and margin will decrease... as for comfortdelgro (it should survive this much better as it is diversified)..DYODD    
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mepkoh
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29-Dec-2016 17:24
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taxi coy ..have been milking riders for a long time.... the recent rental discount means ..they have been raking big profits for the past 2 decades..now is payback time..  
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Qanghoo
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29-Dec-2016 17:17
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If the local taxi operators are able to weather the new competition n survive, even with such seemingly unbelieveable low rentals, it proves that the previous environment that had entrenched the monopolistic situation for so long had just made sporean commuters such stupid suckers.  N why did we allow ourselves to be sucked in for so long?
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The_Crow
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29-Dec-2016 16:32
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Saying hi to Mr Liu from Platin Sec.   You can decide if I make a good research analyst after I beat the forecasts of the professional analysts.  
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investshare
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29-Dec-2016 14:26
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Yes but majority still prefer taxi. But they use Grab to call taxi. So the major threat now to CDG is not taxi vs private car but CDG vs other taxi co. If you are a new taxi driver, why would you prefer CDG?
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kimenglee
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29-Dec-2016 13:45
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Passengers also switching to grab and uber due to the low fare. Isn' t it?
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investshare
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29-Dec-2016 13:19
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Is this good or bad news to CDG? )
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evergreen3
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29-Dec-2016 12:34
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Transcab - has 4,500 taxi vehicles and about 11% are sitting in their garage idle with no drivers. Premier Taxis - refused to tell how many of their taxi vehicles are unhired, but an earlier state media report estimated the amount to be about 15%. As of October, a total of 2,000 taxi vehicles are unhired and idling in the yards. |
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investshare
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29-Dec-2016 12:25
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No, In contrary, Grab is helping them to level the playing ground against CDG.
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