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huathuat88888
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19-Feb-2019 13:53
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Just buy some to hold.
HK or China side going to Make An Offer soon. |
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19-Feb-2019 11:30
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Today Xi announced grand plans to upgrade the  Greater Bay Area  to challenge Silicon Valley. And lots of Port stocks from the area cheong up to the maximum 10% daily limit today. Yet, HPHT dropped 8% here.  This stock is a  Greater Joke.      ![]()
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16-Feb-2019 11:48
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Any relocation of HK ports will take decades (and probably a few recessions and stock markets crash), if they decide to move it at all.  ![]()   HK govt moves slower than a sloth' s pace............ ![]() ![]() https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/community/article/2160702/artificial-island-near-mega-bridge-project-could-house   |
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16-Feb-2019 11:33
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Li Ka Shing is in panic mode as HK ports dropped 2 spots from 5th to 7th............................ ![]() Hong Kong port slips from global top five for first time THU, FEB 14, 2019 - 12:56 PM [HONG KONG] Hong Kong' s port, which once vied with rival Singapore for global dominance, has slipped out of the world' s top five busiest shipping container terminals for the first time, new data has revealed. But last year Hong Kong' s port came in at number seven, confirmation of a seemingly inexorable slide down the world rankings against the increased dominance of mainland Chinese ports and continued resilience of Singapore. Drewry' s data for 2018 shows Hong Kong handled 19.64 million twenty-foot equivalent units (TEUs), the industry measurement based on a standard 20-foot shipping container, down from 23.54 million in 2006. That is less than half world leader Shanghai at 42.01 million units and far behind number two port Singapore with 36.60 million units. In a bid to cut costs and improve efficiency, billionaire Li Ka-shing' s Hongkong International Terminals - the city' s biggest container-terminal operator - announced an alliance with rival dock operators in January. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/hong-kong-port-slips-from-global-top-five-for-first-time   |
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huathuat88888
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15-Feb-2019 03:18
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Canning Fok and CK looks anxious to delist HPH from SGX.
Ever since Li Ka Shing steps down and passes the reins to RL, this SGX listed HPH has been like the missing link to the complete jigzaw puzzle. HK Govt will announce ports relocation plans soon. If HPH is not taken private back to HK, will be a big hindrance to CK mega property development plans and ambitions.
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15-Feb-2019 00:00
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For those who still don' t understand Deepwater Ports in E Asia & the 1B1R technicals, read on. Extracted from: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government-economy/hong-kong-port-slips-from-global-top-five-for-first-time ... Hong Kong had fallen below the top five threshold since they first began compiling global port data in 1979. " For many years, through to the 1990s, Hong Kong was really the only effective port for serving southern China, as mainland Chinese ports were under-developed," he told AFP. " Since then of course, mainland Chinese ports like Shenzhen and Guangzhou have seen huge expansion and investment in modern facilities, and have become much more effective competitors to Hong Kong." Drewry' s data for 2018 shows Hong Kong handled 19.64 million twenty-foot equivalent units (TEUs), the industry measurement based on a standard 20-foot shipping container, down from 23.54 million in 2006. That is less than half world leader Shanghai at 42.01 million units and far behind number two port Singapore with 36.60 million units. Chinese mainland ports Ningbo and Shenzhen had previously overtaken Hong Kong but last year it was eclipsed by two more - Guangzhou and South Korea' s Busan. In 2004, when Hong Kong was still the world' s busiest port, more than 150,000 vessels were filled, a figure that has now halved according to Bloomberg News. In a bid to cut costs and improve efficiency, billionaire Li Ka-shing' s Hongkong International Terminals - the city' s biggest container-terminal operator - announced an alliance with rival dock operators in January. Unlike most major ports where the state either owns or plays a prominent role, Hong Kong' s ports are entirely private. But there has been criticism that the local government has not done enough to invest in new facilities. Authorities began studying a plan to build a tenth terminal more than a decade ago - publishing a feasibility study in 2014 - but there has been little progress. |
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huathuat88888
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14-Feb-2019 14:04
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This is the reason why YZJ share so valuable.
YZJ will soon develop one of their shipyard into "SeaView Residential cum Commercial" Project : )
Valuable.
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14-Feb-2019 13:53
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Brokers' take: OCBC downgrades HPH Trust to ' sell' DBS maintains ' hold'https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/brokers-take-ocbc-downgrades-hph-trust-to-sell-dbs-maintains-hold |
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huathuat88888
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14-Feb-2019 13:47
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Sooner or later, in fact very soon HK Govt will announce the ports relocation, much like they have to relocate HK City Airport to Lantau Island.
They have to. Housing shortage issues.
Canning Fok knowing this...he is in a hurry too. Thus all these impairment charge...etc to make the later Offer looks "good, generous and attractive".
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huathuat88888
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14-Feb-2019 13:39
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I guess Canning Fok is planning this way :
Delist HPH Trust at US$ 0.35 ~ 0.38 (seems "generous" over current price)
Before HK Govt confirms the relocation of the HK ports.
Then Canning with CK will develop the site for about 50 000 apartment units.
If each sold at conservative est. US$ 1 mil (note seaview some more), that will yield US$ 50 bil for CK .
GOOD DEAL.
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13-Feb-2019 17:34
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The new NAV of 0.385 is also very doubtful, if going to the lastest report. 1. goodwill 11270M (new figure after latest round of impairment) 2. customer relationship 5836M Both are NOT real assets, if remove both items, the new NAV is only 0.2438 USD   |
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SeePehJiaLat
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13-Feb-2019 17:15
Yells: "Can or not?" |
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Where is the joker that keep shouting to buy?
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13-Feb-2019 16:13
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Smart people don' t buy things that Li Ka Shing sells. The reason is clearer than day. ![]() ![]()
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13-Feb-2019 15:58
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How much have PSA loss in HPH? Keep increasing it's stake while price was falling?
That's not including the huge investment in A.S Watson by Temasek at a whopping US$5.7b in 2014 No wonder Mr Ali Ka-Shing is smiling all the way to the bank vaults |
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13-Feb 15:43
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Brokers' take: OCBC downgrades HPH Trust to ' sell' DBS maintains ' hold' WED, FEB 13, 2019 - 11:54 AM OCBC Investment Research has downgraded its call on  Hutchison Port Holdings Trust (HPH Trust) from " buy" to " sell" , on the back of an unexpected HK$12.3 million (S$2.1 million) non-cash impairment loss, while DBS Group Research has maintained its " hold" rating on the counter, with a target price of US$0.26.  OCBC' s current fair value estimate of US$0.22 represents a 9 per cent downside from the counter' s Feb 12 close of US$0.26.  In a research note released on Wednesday, DBS noted that the trust' s non-cash impairment charges reflected an " uncertain outlook" and other structural changes within the shipping industry.  " The non-cash impairment reduces NAV (net asset value) per unit by 31 per cent quarter on quarter to HK$3.07 or about US$0.39, which in turn means HPH Trust is trading at a historical P/B (price-to-book ratio) of 0.66x, using Feb 12' s closing price. " While this figure is still below the five-year average of 0.73 times, we no longer find HPH Trust&rsquo s price levels attractive, given the macro uncertainties," said OCBC analyst Deborah Ong.  https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/brokers-take-ocbc-downgrades-hph-trust-to-sell-dbs-maintains-hold |
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FaceTheFact
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13-Feb-2019 13:40
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From OCBC...
In a Wednesday report, analyst Deborah Ong notes that while HPHT has been trading at a historical P/B value of 0.66 times based on its 12 Feb closing price of 26 US cents, she no longer finds its unit levels attractive considering ongoing uncertainties on the macro level. &ldquo The non-cash impairment of HK$12.3 billion (which includes a HK$11.4 billion goodwill impairment) was a large disappointment&hellip In terms of the potential for future write-downs in goodwill,.... https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/ocbc-downgrades-hutchison-port-holdings-042426840.html
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FaceTheFact
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13-Feb-2019 13:13
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Note that re-location by the Authorities is different from the Authorities buying the land back from you...it' s not an enbloc. But a compulsory acquisation by the Govt of the land for PUBLIC use, something you cannot refused even if the price is not right. They' ll compensate you with any land though....
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FaceTheFact
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13-Feb-2019 12:51
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Issue is 3 yrs after IPO, there is16B impairment. 3 yrs later, another 12B impairment. They are by the BILLIONS & it is relatively new in SGX, mind you. Surely carries a large baggage into this SGP market for us investors... were these indicated or mentioned somewhere in propectus? Yes, cunning!, that someone mentioned!
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13-Feb-2019 12:45
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The increase in revenue was due to a 10.9 per cent increase in container throughput at its Shenzhen terminal from Q4 2017, which was driven by a surge in the US cargoes in anticipation of the 25 per cent tariff implementation originally scheduled in January by the US to Chinese exports, it said. What is HK$182.8 million ... only S$30+ million for such a big company??
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huathuat88888
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12-Feb-2019 23:07
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HK suggests moving Hong Kong?s Kwai Tsing container terminal to new island, freeing up space in the city.
A 520-hectare (1,285-acre) island built in mainland Chinese waters to the west of Lantau Island could provide space to relocate Hong Kong?s largest container terminal. It would be linked to an artificial island, already built at the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge some 7.5km away from Lantau. Some 350 hectares (865 acres) at the south of the artificial island would be for relocating the Kwai Tsing container terminal, one of the busiest ports in the world. If around 45 per cent of the freed up space were allocated for housing, it could provide 250,000 flats for 700,000 people. |
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