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brightpoint Senior	19-Oct-2016 11:31        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah..this one drop back...can buy again?? sold my previous purchase at with some profit
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lifeisgood Supreme	14-Oct-2016 23:39        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is damn good deal for the doctors. First, the doctors take back more than ALL the guaranteed future profits, partially upfront, partially via instalment. Plus they receive shares at something like 13 times, but now more like 20 times PE, meaning the doctors profits is further multiplied by 20 folds, which in 5 years time when moratorium is over, can dump off the shares (realised 5 years of work for 20 years of payment, wow!). Plus they still receive salaries during all these years. Whoever bought these shares are paying huge for these doctors service. Where is the value add here? Worse than reits !!! Now imagine a person works in a company and makes $100K salary. You get 100 of these workers to form a company, pay them $10 million cash upfront, and also give them shares, then you put this $10 mio future earnings inside a shell company, and you IPO the company at 20 times PE, giving it a valuation $200 million. Holy .... !!! What the ??? And people scramble to buy the shares!  lglg666      ( Date: 14-Oct-2016 23:27) Posted: Creative accounting plus financial engineering....the way to go!! lifeisgood      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 18:11) Posted: Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay). This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging.
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lglg666 Supreme	14-Oct-2016 23:27        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Creative accounting plus financial engineering....the way to go!! lifeisgood      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 18:11) Posted: Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay). This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging. Lepin888      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 17:51) Posted: Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....
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chinton86 Master	14-Oct-2016 22:35        chinton86 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I bought for investment purpose more than speculative ones.i would target $1.20 then i consider to sell off half and leave the rest.
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brightpoint Senior	14-Oct-2016 11:26        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	this one can up to 50, lets wait and see
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Maller Elite	14-Oct-2016 11:23        Maller About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Asiamedic still lagging behind in terms of share price?
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brightpoint Senior	14-Oct-2016 09:40        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Up liao...475 brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:49) Posted: this round i set cut loss at 42 brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:46) Posted: me too..huat together
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brightpoint Senior	13-Oct-2016 11:49        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	this round i set cut loss at 42 brightpoint      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:46) Posted: me too..huat together chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:44) Posted: Bought at 45
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brightpoint Senior	13-Oct-2016 11:46        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	me too..huat together chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2016 11:44) Posted: Bought at 45
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chinton86 Master	13-Oct-2016 11:44        chinton86 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bought at 45
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john_ric Supreme	13-Oct-2016 10:58        john_ric About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	pump and dump.  classic case.
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brightpoint Senior	13-Oct-2016 10:39        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wah...just back from meeting..drop till 45...early morning 7am set sell mode at 49, really heng..sold that...coz no time monitor, hend ah
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chinton86 Master	12-Oct-2016 21:06        chinton86 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	$1.20 in the making
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lifeisgood Supreme	12-Oct-2016 18:11        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Use upfront lots of cash to pay for future profits (but less than cash outlay). This is financial engineering. Like that can build instant companies. Just repackaging. Lepin888      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 17:51) Posted: Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....
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Lepin888 Veteran	12-Oct-2016 17:51        Lepin888 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Dont forget this comp still has no earnings ie no profit until deal is completed. Need to find $30m cash to pay for 4.5m a year profit for 5 years and huge dilution with new shares. Sounds good but devil is in details. Doctors after 5 years can walk...same as Healthway....Asiamedic....
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brightpoint Senior	12-Oct-2016 16:33        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Wah...still holding so well..
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brightpoint Senior	12-Oct-2016 13:12        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i still holding 100 lots, but super high risk, if you are high risk taker can enter, but have to monitor very closely, any sudden drop must cut lose immediately,  brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:04) Posted: 15,000 0.485 0.490 133,000     241,000 0.480 0.495 853,400     116,000 0.475 0.500 949,700     219,100 0.470 0.505 640,000     152,700 0.465 0.510 183,600     311,000 0.460 0.515 108,000     210,000 0.455 0.520 164,500     606,100 0.450 0.525 35,000     130,000 0.445 0.530 77,000     236,500 0.440 0.535 114,500     466,600 0.435 0.540 32,000     322,000 0.430 0.545 75,000     222,000 0.425 0.550 248,000     293,500 0.420 0.585 11,000     305,000 0.415 0.740 8,000     490,000 0.410         92,000 0.405     zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:00) Posted: can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think?
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brightpoint Senior	12-Oct-2016 13:04        brightpoint About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	15,000 0.485 0.490 133,000     241,000 0.480 0.495 853,400     116,000 0.475 0.500 949,700     219,100 0.470 0.505 640,000     152,700 0.465 0.510 183,600     311,000 0.460 0.515 108,000     210,000 0.455 0.520 164,500     606,100 0.450 0.525 35,000     130,000 0.445 0.530 77,000     236,500 0.440 0.535 114,500     466,600 0.435 0.540 32,000     322,000 0.430 0.545 75,000     222,000 0.425 0.550 248,000     293,500 0.420 0.585 11,000     305,000 0.415 0.740 8,000     490,000 0.410         92,000 0.405     zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 13:00) Posted: can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think? brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:31) Posted: Good, as long have profit, i sold some at 49 and 495, still holding 100 lots, my q at 50 no eat up leh, see how
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zv_francesca Member	12-Oct-2016 13:00        zv_francesca About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	can re-enter at current price or not? how do you think? brightpoint      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:31) Posted: Good, as long have profit, i sold some at 49 and 495, still holding 100 lots, my q at 50 no eat up leh, see how zv_francesca      ( Date: 12-Oct-2016 11:28) Posted: i sold mine at 0.475 just now. bought last month at 0.345. overbought today.
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jeremyow Master	12-Oct-2016 12:34        jeremyow About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Passionate business investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/938-2016/11046-singapore-medical-group-to-acquire-astra-for-s-60-million-and-be-no-1-in-private-women-healthcare This medical group has a far more exciting and sexy growth story than what its financials offer currently. The medical group has not make progress in terms of growing its earnings. There are quite a number of years so far whereby it has made losses. Its operating cashflows have not really picked up over the years despite the group which has been on an expansion and growth spur. It still manages to continue to expand and grow by cash raising exercises (mostly through issuance of equity). Thus, there is no organic growth through its low operating cashflows and negative free cashflows at the moment. Thus, the group has been accumulating losses on its balance sheet through the years albeit that the accumulation of losses has slowed down in the recent year. With the most recent acquisition of Astra Womens' Specialist, it does provide a catalyst to the sharp increase in the group' s share price. But, without a firm foundation of stable growth in earnings and operating cashflows, this medical group is currently worth more for its sexy growth and expansion story than what its financials can offer. One could say the time is still not ripe yet for Singapore Medical Group to see its good financials coming in. Well, we shall see whether with the most current acquisition of Astra, the earnings and operating cashflows of the group can indeed see a boost as what many articles and write-ups from different sources say. However, even if that is not realised, as long as its share price can be pushed up further by more sexy growth and expansion ventures, why not consider this group since its share price has already rewarded its shareholders well by increasing by 100%, doubling in a few months even without solid financials at the moment? Which is more important? Solid financials of a business or its solid share price? As always DYODD.
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