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kepoh88
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30-Jul-2025 11:56
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The Indonesian may have representaion in the board , it should be good news | ||||||||||
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eric998
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30-Jul-2025 11:53
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Bad news leaked? Shorting start?
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hschsc
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30-Jul-2025 10:19
Yells: "Invest in financially healthy companies" |
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AGM start from 2.30PM. should have some announcements.
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Taylor
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30-Jul-2025 09:29
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Still can exit at this price Indonesia BB so good Time to run | ||||||||||
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Timer78
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30-Jul-2025 08:26
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What time is AGM ? | ||||||||||
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ysh2006
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30-Jul-2025 05:31
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Any guessing after AGM this HSI share price direction ? Down or Up ? | ||||||||||
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k2kingkong
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30-Jul-2025 00:09
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Revised Analysis: Vibrant Group, Vibrant Equities & Hiap Seng Industries (HSI) - Corrected Structure & Implications1. Corrected Ownership & Relationship Structure(Previous Errors &rarr Accurate Facts)
2. Financial & Governance ImplicationsA) For Vibrant Group (VG) [Listed Entity]
B) For Vibrant Equities [Private Entity]
C) For Hiap Seng Industries (HSI) [Listed Entity]
3. Red Flags for Investors to MonitorFor Vibrant Group (VG) Investors:🚩   Unexplained Related-Party Transactions: Check if VG does business with HSI/Vibrant Equities (e.g., contracts, loans). 🚩   Khua Family Share Movements: Sudden sales/purchases of VG or HSI shares may signal strategic shifts. 🚩   Dividend Policy Changes: If VG cuts dividends despite HSI&rsquo s recovery, it may indicate cash flow issues. For HSI Investors:🚩   High Director Compensation: Could indicate siphoning of value by Vibrant Equities insiders. 🚩   Asset Transfers to Private Entities: Watch for sales of HSI assets to Khua-linked companies at unfair prices. 🚩   Lack of Minority Protections: No independent directors or audit safeguards for minority shareholders. 4. How to Verify the True Financial ImpactStep 1: Check VG&rsquo s Latest Annual Report
Step 2: Scrutinize HSI&rsquo s Shareholder Disclosures
Step 3: Compare Voting vs. Economic Ownership
5. Conclusion: Key Takeaways
Recommendation:
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k2kingkong
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30-Jul-2025 00:08
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You' re absolutely right to call out these inaccuracies. Let me correct the record with precise details based on the latest available information: Critical Corrections Regarding Vibrant Group and Hiap Seng Industries (HSI):
Why Previous Analyses Were Flawed:
Current Status:
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aragosta
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29-Jul-2025 23:10
Yells: "BBs never say why when they buy; never tell when they sell" |
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All the following comments and posts below are out of date and full of inaccuracies and some fake even....... ' For one, Vibrant Equities already excercised its option, now own more than 49% of HSI shares and not 36%, for another, Vibrant Equites is a Private company, and is only a linked associate of Vibrant Group, and NOT a subsidiary in any form..... there' s a big difference here.... last but not least, the money to Vibrant Equities to rescue HSI did not come from VG at all, but are personal loans from the individuals inside Vibrant Equities...../ I think I don' t want to waste my time, talking further...... tomorrow is the AGM, if you asked questions there based on the info below, you gonna get eggs thrown in your face....... real joker |
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k2kingkong
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29-Jul-2025 22:31
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Deep Dive into Vibrant Group' s Financials: Subsidiary Cash Flows & Hidden Risks1. Key Concerns About Vibrant Equities (Pte Ltd) & HSIL Stake
2. Extracting Insights from Vibrant Group&rsquo s 2023 Annual ReportA) Subsidiary Ownership StructureVibrant Group fully owns:
B) How HSIL Investment is Currently Reported
C) Cash Flow Analysis
D) Can Cash Get " Stuck" in Vibrant Equities?
3. Potential Red Flags in Financials🚩 Red Flag #1: Unexplained Increase in " Other Receivables"
🚩 Red Flag #2: Declining Dividends Despite Asset Sales
🚩 Red Flag #3: " Investments in Subsidiaries" Growing Without Clarity
4. Case Study: How Vibrant Group Handled Past Disposals
5. What Should Investors Do Now?Step 1: Monitor Next Quarterly Report
Step 2: Watch for SGX Announcements
Step 3: Compare Standalone vs. Consolidated Cash
6. Conclusion: Is Vibrant Group " Hiding" Cash?
Recommendation:
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k2kingkong
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29-Jul-2025 22:30
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Analysis of Vibrant Group' s Financial Reporting for Subsidiaries (Including Vibrant Equities)To assess how Vibrant Group accounts for its subsidiaries (like  Vibrant Equities Pte Ltd) and whether proceeds from a potential sale of HSIL shares would be transparently reported, we need to examine:
1. Vibrant Group&rsquo s Subsidiary StructureVibrant Group&rsquo s  2023 Annual Report  shows it has multiple subsidiaries, including:
Key Observations:✅   Full Consolidation: Since Vibrant Group owns  100% of Vibrant Equities, the subsidiary&rsquo s financials are  fully consolidated  in Vibrant Group&rsquo s books. ✅   Equity Accounting Not Applicable: HSIL is an  investment  (not a joint venture/associate), so it&rsquo s recorded at  fair value or cost  (not equity method). 2. How Vibrant Group Reports Investments (Including HSIL Stake)a) Balance Sheet Treatment
b) Example from Vibrant Group&rsquo s 2023 Annual ReportIn its  2023 financials, Vibrant Group reported:
🔍   If HSIL shares were sold:
3. Can Vibrant Equities Withhold Cash from Vibrant Group?Technically Yes, But It Would Still Show Up in Consolidation
Red Flags to Watch For🚩 If Vibrant Group&rsquo s  standalone financials  (unconsolidated) show  low cash  but consolidated reports show  high cash, it means subsidiaries (like Vibrant Equities) are holding funds. 🚩 If  no disclosure  of a major HSIL stake sale appears, it could signal  non-compliance with SGX rules. 4. Case Study: Past Disposals by Vibrant GroupLooking at  historical transactions, Vibrant Group has previously:
This suggests they  follow reporting standards  and do not hide material transactions. 5. Conclusion & What to MonitorIf Vibrant Equities Sells HSIL Shares:✔   Vibrant Group&rsquo s NAV will change  (gain/loss on sale). ✔   Cash will appear in consolidated financials  (even if retained at subsidiary level). ✔   SGX disclosure required  if the sale is material (> 5% of NAV/revenue). What to Watch Next:📌   Vibrant Group&rsquo s next quarterly report  (check " Investments" and " Cash Flow" ). 📌   SGX announcements  for any sudden disposals. 📌   Dividend declarations  (if cash is upstreamed). Final Verdict:While Vibrant Equities can  hold cash internally, Vibrant Group  must still report the transaction  in its consolidated financials. Investors should  track cash flow statements  to see where proceeds go. |
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k2kingkong
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29-Jul-2025 22:28
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Can Vibrant Equities (Pte Ltd) Avoid Reporting Sale Proceeds to Vibrant Group (Listed Parent)?Short Answer: No, Vibrant Group (listed company) must still report the financial impact  of Vibrant Equities' sale of HSIL shares in its consolidated financial statements, even if Vibrant Equities is a private subsidiary. However,  whether the cash proceeds move up to the parent company (Vibrant Group) depends on internal group policies. Key Factors to Consider1. Legal & Accounting Reporting Requirements
2. Cash Flow Movement (Can Proceeds Be Withheld?)
3. Potential Ways Vibrant Group Could " Hide" the Proceeds (Legally)While full consolidation is mandatory, Vibrant Group could  structure transactions  to obscure the impact:
What Investors Should Watch For
Conclusion
If Vibrant Group&rsquo s financials show  no change after a major HSIL stake sale, it would raise red flags for auditors and regulators. |
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k2kingkong
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29-Jul-2025 22:26
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Impact of Vibrant Equities Selling 36.3% of Hiap Seng Shares on Vibrant Group&rsquo s NAVIf  Vibrant Equities Pte Ltd  (a subsidiary of  Vibrant Group Limited) sells its  36.3% stake in Hiap Seng Industries Limited (HSIL), the impact on  Vibrant Group&rsquo s Net Asset Value (NAV)  would depend on:
Estimated Financial Impact (Simplified)Assuming:
If sold at S$110M:
If sold at S$70M:
Conclusion
Key Consideration:  The actual effect depends on  HSIL&rsquo s market price at sale  and how Vibrant Group accounts for the investment (cost vs. equity method). Investors should monitor Vibrant&rsquo s financial disclosures post-transaction. |
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k2kingkong
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29-Jul-2025 22:24
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Key Points from HSEL and HSIL Joint Completion Announcement1. Background and Context
2. Completion of Key Transactions (16 February 2024)
3. Board Composition of HSIL
4. Shareholding Structure
5. Future Steps
6. Important Dates
7. Cautionary Notes
SummaryThe restructuring marks HSEL&rsquo s transition into a subsidiary of HSIL, with HSIL taking over its SGX listing. Vibrant Group emerges as the largest shareholder (36.3%), while creditors receive settlement shares. The board is reconstituted, and future capital adjustments (Rights Issue, Options) may further dilute public ownership. The completion aligns with court and shareholder approvals, finalizing a multi-year debt and equity restructuring process. Key Takeaway: HSIL&rsquo s new listing represents a fresh start post-restructuring, with significant control vested in Vibrant Group and other strategic subscribers. |
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LowLow12
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29-Jul-2025 21:51
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I like this !! Great to fry and goreng Time we go again  |
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Timer78
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29-Jul-2025 20:11
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Net cash and almost zero borrowings. I think it has more upside in medium term. Gona buy tmr! Dyodd. | ||||||||||
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Timer78
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29-Jul-2025 20:07
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QUESTION 5 With a strong net cash position of S$23.7 million and near-zero borrowings, what is the capital allocation strategy, including potential for dividends, or investments? COMPANY?S RESPONSE The Group intends to adopt a prudent capital allocation strategy in light of ongoing market headwinds, potential opportunities for mergers and acquisitions, and anticipated working capital needs should sizable projects or expansion opportunities arise. Hiap Seng Engineering Limited, the Group?s main operating entity, is currently undergoing a capital reduction exercise. This initiative is primarily aimed at neutralizing its accumulated losses, thereby enabling the Board of Directors to consider dividend distributions when deemed appropriate.
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Secret_Squirrel
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29-Jul-2025 19:13
Yells: "Stay curious but skeptical" |
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read the Q& A. very informative. Announcement - Response to Questions from shareholders prior AGM 2025.ashx |
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dot123
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29-Jul-2025 16:42
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hold steady...dun anyhow sell lol
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kepoh88
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29-Jul-2025 16:36
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Hope can cross 38 today..
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