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danger Supreme	26-Oct-2019 14:35        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Imagine laksaman super panic when steadily pickup around 67 to 68 Then suddenly one day open 54c.. panic ... either cut loss big time at 56c or....... habis
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danger Supreme	26-Oct-2019 14:32        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Laksaman become lau sai man
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	26-Oct-2019 14:17        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I meant already exited. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 14:16) Posted: The rich Chinese only exited. No longer major unit holders. Subaru2018      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 13:52) Posted: Why this reit keeps on Lao Sai -ing ? Actually this QM is not a issue at all, why there are pple trying to shot it down using this ? I would say, the real issue is, when this bugger trying to do fund raising for more asset buying. Then that will be it. But i dont see that happens , especially now got so many sai lao -ing out. Hopefully aomw rich chinese , decided to takeover. M&A. Now its a good time, 78cta ipo, 50cts takeover.
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	26-Oct-2019 14:16        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The rich Chinese only exited. No longer major unit holders. Subaru2018      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 13:52) Posted: Why this reit keeps on Lao Sai -ing ? Actually this QM is not a issue at all, why there are pple trying to shot it down using this ? I would say, the real issue is, when this bugger trying to do fund raising for more asset buying. Then that will be it. But i dont see that happens , especially now got so many sai lao -ing out. Hopefully aomw rich chinese , decided to takeover. M&A. Now its a good time, 78cta ipo, 50cts takeover.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:56        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Round-1 by frightened real sellers Round-2, come Monday, by shorties n3wbie      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 13:09) Posted: appears that most of the volume are real sell orders as total short-sell volume yesterday, 25 Oct was only 200k at an average cost of 56.6c/share (based on SGX short-sell data) uk1234      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:49) Posted: The trust assets are ~1.2b.  take out the ship stil have 1b.  with current share price, mcap is 470m.  that' s a massive 50% discount. (even taking out some inflation in valuaiton, the discount is still huge). This is a reit, one should look at it as a reit: the gearing, distributable cash, lease structure. etc.: gearing is at 33% current distribution is from actual net pty income not from debt all are master lease having a floor of 66% of the revenue, with variable upside All of these look completely normal, just like any other normal hotel reit.  Unless this is a total fraud, this stock is clearly oversold.  public offer was merely 44m shares, yesterday one day volume was 33m. shorting is at play. Btw I find it rather odd about this ship' s " lease agreement" claim.  how much did UC pay for the " lease" ?  Let say 200m (roughly the book value of this in the reit. About similar price for a hotel).  Now the city says it has another " maintenance obligation" that is worth 280m.  This would mean this boat cost half a billion ?  Why would any one spend half a b on a " nostalgia" ship ?  My guess is the " 280m maintenane cost" is a projection to maintain this for future years before it is finally written off.  As an business, UC probably just did the minimum that meets the safety requirement to operate (otherwise the ship would have been shutdown by court), and just do the annual maintenance plu anything urgent as and when needed.  This is a long term process and the city even has a stake in it (the various funds created for this).  There is no reason for the city to demand a 280m overhaul now, when you sell it for 200m 3ys ago as an " operatable asset" .  I guess this is US, ppl are playing the game.  I think the city is trying to push UC to do more than just the minimum maintenance , by threatening default. It is in the reit' s interest for UC to strongly defend its position.
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Subaru2018 Senior	26-Oct-2019 13:52        Subaru2018 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why this reit keeps on Lao Sai -ing ? Actually this QM is not a issue at all, why there are pple trying to shot it down using this ? I would say, the real issue is, when this bugger trying to do fund raising for more asset buying. Then that will be it. But i dont see that happens , especially now got so many sai lao -ing out. Hopefully aomw rich chinese , decided to takeover. M&A. Now its a good time, 78cta ipo, 50cts takeover.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:47        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	$0.40 stock ! mrwise      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 13:42) Posted: $0.45 stock!
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mrwise Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:42        mrwise About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	$0.45 stock!
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:27        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It's Pribonic pushing Long beach city is pushing back uk1234      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:49) Posted: The trust assets are ~1.2b.  take out the ship stil have 1b.  with current share price, mcap is 470m.  that' s a massive 50% discount. (even taking out some inflation in valuaiton, the discount is still huge). This is a reit, one should look at it as a reit: the gearing, distributable cash, lease structure. etc.: gearing is at 33% current distribution is from actual net pty income not from debt all are master lease having a floor of 66% of the revenue, with variable upside All of these look completely normal, just like any other normal hotel reit.  Unless this is a total fraud, this stock is clearly oversold.  public offer was merely 44m shares, yesterday one day volume was 33m. shorting is at play. Btw I find it rather odd about this ship' s " lease agreement" claim.  how much did UC pay for the " lease" ?  Let say 200m (roughly the book value of this in the reit. About similar price for a hotel).  Now the city says it has another " maintenance obligation" that is worth 280m.  This would mean this boat cost half a billion ?  Why would any one spend half a b on a " nostalgia" ship ?  My guess is the " 280m maintenane cost" is a projection to maintain this for future years before it is finally written off.  As an business, UC probably just did the minimum that meets the safety requirement to operate (otherwise the ship would have been shutdown by court), and just do the annual maintenance plu anything urgent as and when needed.  This is a long term process and the city even has a stake in it (the various funds created for this).  There is no reason for the city to demand a 280m overhaul now, when you sell it for 200m 3ys ago as an " operatable asset" .  I guess this is US, ppl are playing the game.  I think the city is trying to push UC to do more than just the minimum maintenance , by threatening default. It is in the reit' s interest for UC to strongly defend its position.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:15        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	48.5cts Subaru2018      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:54) Posted: short term it may dive below 50cts, very likely.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 13:13        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good job analysing 👍 Dig deeper and you'll realise Long Beach city won't default UC lease. The edge basically re-write LB news with added 'if....then.....'. They didn't interview UC for more depth. uk1234      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:49) Posted: The trust assets are ~1.2b.  take out the ship stil have 1b.  with current share price, mcap is 470m.  that' s a massive 50% discount. (even taking out some inflation in valuaiton, the discount is still huge). This is a reit, one should look at it as a reit: the gearing, distributable cash, lease structure. etc.: gearing is at 33% current distribution is from actual net pty income not from debt all are master lease having a floor of 66% of the revenue, with variable upside All of these look completely normal, just like any other normal hotel reit.  Unless this is a total fraud, this stock is clearly oversold.  public offer was merely 44m shares, yesterday one day volume was 33m. shorting is at play. Btw I find it rather odd about this ship' s " lease agreement" claim.  how much did UC pay for the " lease" ?  Let say 200m (roughly the book value of this in the reit. About similar price for a hotel).  Now the city says it has another " maintenance obligation" that is worth 280m.  This would mean this boat cost half a billion ?  Why would any one spend half a b on a " nostalgia" ship ?  My guess is the " 280m maintenane cost" is a projection to maintain this for future years before it is finally written off.  As an business, UC probably just did the minimum that meets the safety requirement to operate (otherwise the ship would have been shutdown by court), and just do the annual maintenance plu anything urgent as and when needed.  This is a long term process and the city even has a stake in it (the various funds created for this).  There is no reason for the city to demand a 280m overhaul now, when you sell it for 200m 3ys ago as an " operatable asset" .  I guess this is US, ppl are playing the game.  I think the city is trying to push UC to do more than just the minimum maintenance , by threatening default. It is in the reit' s interest for UC to strongly defend its position.
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n3wbie Elite	26-Oct-2019 13:09        n3wbie About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	appears that most of the volume are real sell orders as total short-sell volume yesterday, 25 Oct was only 200k at an average cost of 56.6c/share (based on SGX short-sell data) uk1234      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:49) Posted: The trust assets are ~1.2b.  take out the ship stil have 1b.  with current share price, mcap is 470m.  that' s a massive 50% discount. (even taking out some inflation in valuaiton, the discount is still huge). This is a reit, one should look at it as a reit: the gearing, distributable cash, lease structure. etc.: gearing is at 33% current distribution is from actual net pty income not from debt all are master lease having a floor of 66% of the revenue, with variable upside All of these look completely normal, just like any other normal hotel reit.  Unless this is a total fraud, this stock is clearly oversold.  public offer was merely 44m shares, yesterday one day volume was 33m. shorting is at play. Btw I find it rather odd about this ship' s " lease agreement" claim.  how much did UC pay for the " lease" ?  Let say 200m (roughly the book value of this in the reit. About similar price for a hotel).  Now the city says it has another " maintenance obligation" that is worth 280m.  This would mean this boat cost half a billion ?  Why would any one spend half a b on a " nostalgia" ship ?  My guess is the " 280m maintenane cost" is a projection to maintain this for future years before it is finally written off.  As an business, UC probably just did the minimum that meets the safety requirement to operate (otherwise the ship would have been shutdown by court), and just do the annual maintenance plu anything urgent as and when needed.  This is a long term process and the city even has a stake in it (the various funds created for this).  There is no reason for the city to demand a 280m overhaul now, when you sell it for 200m 3ys ago as an " operatable asset" .  I guess this is US, ppl are playing the game.  I think the city is trying to push UC to do more than just the minimum maintenance , by threatening default. It is in the reit' s interest for UC to strongly defend its position.
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Subaru2018 Senior	26-Oct-2019 12:54        Subaru2018 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	short term it may dive below 50cts, very likely.
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uk1234 Member	26-Oct-2019 12:49        uk1234 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The trust assets are ~1.2b.  take out the ship stil have 1b.  with current share price, mcap is 470m.  that' s a massive 50% discount. (even taking out some inflation in valuaiton, the discount is still huge). This is a reit, one should look at it as a reit: the gearing, distributable cash, lease structure. etc.: gearing is at 33% current distribution is from actual net pty income not from debt all are master lease having a floor of 66% of the revenue, with variable upside All of these look completely normal, just like any other normal hotel reit.  Unless this is a total fraud, this stock is clearly oversold.  public offer was merely 44m shares, yesterday one day volume was 33m. shorting is at play. Btw I find it rather odd about this ship' s " lease agreement" claim.  how much did UC pay for the " lease" ?  Let say 200m (roughly the book value of this in the reit. About similar price for a hotel).  Now the city says it has another " maintenance obligation" that is worth 280m.  This would mean this boat cost half a billion ?  Why would any one spend half a b on a " nostalgia" ship ?  My guess is the " 280m maintenane cost" is a projection to maintain this for future years before it is finally written off.  As an business, UC probably just did the minimum that meets the safety requirement to operate (otherwise the ship would have been shutdown by court), and just do the annual maintenance plu anything urgent as and when needed.  This is a long term process and the city even has a stake in it (the various funds created for this).  There is no reason for the city to demand a 280m overhaul now, when you sell it for 200m 3ys ago as an " operatable asset" .  I guess this is US, ppl are playing the game.  I think the city is trying to push UC to do more than just the minimum maintenance , by threatening default. It is in the reit' s interest for UC to strongly defend its position.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 12:38        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Revised target ....48.5cts liao Goldfinger      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 12:28) Posted: The next fear is a possible rights issue to fund improvements and repairs for the Queen. Best to just dump it for good and return to the city of Long Beach.
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Goldfinger Supreme	26-Oct-2019 12:28        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The next fear is a possible rights issue to fund improvements and repairs for the Queen. Best to just dump it for good and return to the city of Long Beach.
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laksaman57 Supreme	26-Oct-2019 11:35        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	👋 👋 danger      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 11:27) Posted: Lasksaman is the man ! He say cannot tahan already..since already lose 20% .. i can take another 10% loss Show hand at 30% loss
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	26-Oct-2019 11:28        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	UOB KH too optimistic. laksaman57      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 11:22) Posted: Laksaman target 50.5cts danger      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 11:18) Posted: UOB KAYHIAN TARGET IS US$ 1.02 IF ASSUMING WHOLE QUEEN MARY IS WRITTEN DOWN TO ZERO AND CONTRIBUTE NOTHING TO RENTAL INCOME.. TARGET PRICE IS US$ 0.80
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danger Supreme	26-Oct-2019 11:27        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lasksaman is the man ! He say cannot tahan already..since already lose 20% .. i can take another 10% loss Show hand at 30% loss
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	26-Oct-2019 11:27        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not sure if it will go down to 50. Think already is at bottom floor already. Maybe price will be depressed for now, am observing price action now. I am not vested. Wanted to buy earlierdue to forecasted DPU & before the Edge report came out but decided not to buy as QM issue and see what is the outcome of results of next 1 to 2 Q first.    Goldfinger      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 10:57) Posted: Target price 56cents means entry at 50? CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 26-Oct-2019 10:39) Posted: KGI Securities' Target Price USD0.72 & said if worse case scenerio if eliminate Queen Mary, target price : 0.56. Think yty closing is bottom / near bottom liao
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