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desmodeus Veteran	07-Dec-2021 10:56        desmodeus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	soon other houses will have to join in the chorus. christmas is coming to sembcorp marine  🎵 🎵 🎵 🎵 🎵 blackpearl      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 10:49) Posted: better      ( Date: 06-Dec-2021 15:09) Posted: BT very on the ball...reported that UOBAM added SCM to its Dec Alpha picks list.
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blackpearl Member	07-Dec-2021 10:50        blackpearl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	better      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:51) Posted: Fortune favours the brave. And Green is the new gold Oxtail      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:45) Posted: Our future is going to be exciting.  Imagine a fully automated settlement at international water  Wind power offshore station  green ammonia offshore producing plant green ammonia transport tanker Data storage station (if there are extra power)  and many more All the above is within SCM future capabilities. Singapore maybe can project their economic influrence outside Singapore and be an energy producing country.
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blackpearl Member	07-Dec-2021 10:49        blackpearl About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	better      ( Date: 06-Dec-2021 15:09) Posted: BT very on the ball...reported that UOBAM added SCM to its Dec Alpha picks list.
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better Elite	07-Dec-2021 10:16        better About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Shortisr getting impatient today, just bought 20+million shares at 8.5 cents.... Oxtail      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 10:12) Posted: Too thick to understand and find it a hassle to crack open.  Just let him be.    MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 10:01) Posted: A bag money is coming in during Chinese New Year for him to collect. But he is thinking of all ways to reject it. He will live to regret. Time is the best lesson.
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Oxtail Member	07-Dec-2021 10:12        Oxtail About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Too thick to understand and find it a hassle to crack open.  Just let him be.    MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 10:01) Posted: A bag money is coming in during Chinese New Year for him to collect. But he is thinking of all ways to reject it. He will live to regret. Time is the best lesson. dcproperty      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:25) Posted: I am very confused with your status now. Are you:- > An investor? No, you admitted that you haven' t invested on this counter > Shortist? Mostly > Mr. Chart Expert. Yes, as claimed > Mr. CEO of SMM. Most likely from the way you talk. > Now? A scientist lo. No, you are not just a Scientist. You are also chart expert. You are Dr. Chart Expert.     Dr. Chart Expert, If I choose to sell ice cream on a rainy day. It got nothing to do with you. SMM designs green ammonia-fuelled  tanker. And Norway' s Grieg Maritime Group likes to buy. It got nothing do with you. Unless, you are bigger than Grieg Maritime Group. But don' t think highly of yourself, please Even if it failed last time, doesn' t mean it fails now.           Dot com bust many years ago. But dot com is everything now.
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MANFREDTMK Master	07-Dec-2021 10:01        MANFREDTMK About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A bag money is coming in during Chinese New Year for him to collect. But he is thinking of all ways to reject it. He will live to regret. Time is the best lesson. dcproperty      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:25) Posted: I am very confused with your status now. Are you:- > An investor? No, you admitted that you haven' t invested on this counter > Shortist? Mostly > Mr. Chart Expert. Yes, as claimed > Mr. CEO of SMM. Most likely from the way you talk. > Now? A scientist lo. No, you are not just a Scientist. You are also chart expert. You are Dr. Chart Expert.     Dr. Chart Expert, If I choose to sell ice cream on a rainy day. It got nothing to do with you. SMM designs green ammonia-fuelled  tanker. And Norway' s Grieg Maritime Group likes to buy. It got nothing do with you. Unless, you are bigger than Grieg Maritime Group. But don' t think highly of yourself, please Even if it failed last time, doesn' t mean it fails now.           Dot com bust many years ago. But dot com is everything now.   chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:18) Posted: In reality, You cannot fill up like you do with gasoline or diesel. It is actually pretty ridiculous how hard it is to fill up a HFC powered car You won?t even go 100 miles on current tech hydrogen tanks that are still safe to carry around in a car Fuel cells wear out crazy fast and are hard to regenerate Hydrogen as a fuel is incredibly hard to make and distribute with acceptably low losses Additionally, Hydrogen fuel cells have bad theoretical and practical efficiency Hydrogen storage is inefficient, energetically, volumetrically and with respect to weight HFCs require a shit ton of supporting systems, making them much more complicated and prone to failure than combustion or electric engines There is no infrastructure for distributing or even making hydrogen in large quantities. There won?t be for at least 20 or 30 years, even if we start building it like crazy today. Hydrogen is actually pretty hard to make. It has a horrible well-to-wheel efficiency as a result. Easy ways to get large quantities of hydrogen are not ?cleaner? than gasoline. Efficient HFCs have very slow response times, meaning you again need additional systems to store energy for accelerating Even though a HFC-powered car is essentially an electric car, you get none of the benefits like filling it up with your own power source, using it as a smart grid buffer, regenerating energy during braking, etc. Battery electric cars will always be better in every way given the speed of technological developments past, present and future I?ve written my own debunking of the legitimacy of hydrogen fuel cell cars. Physicist Joe Romm, PhD, who oversaw $1 billion in R&D, demonstration, and deployment of low-carbon technology in 1997 as acting assistant secretary of energy for energy efficiency and renewable energy under President Bill Clinton, has written several articles and an entire book on why hydrogen cars are overly hyped, not competitive with battery-electric cars, incredibly dumb, and (obviously) not a winning strategy. The author of the piece above was involved in the first international hydrogen racing championship, and as you can see if you read his articles, knows a lot about the technology. Elon Musk, another vocal HFCV critic, is a physicist by training and was interested since college, at least, in advancing sustainable transport. He specifically went the route of battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) rather than HFCVs because of inherent, huge advantages for BEVs. As he has noted, the theoretical limit for HFCVs isn?t even as good as current-tech BEVs?. As he stated last year: Hydrogen fuel cell cars ?are extremely silly.? ?Hydrogen is an incredibly dumb? fuel. ?Fuel cell is so bullshit, it?s a load of rubbish. The only reason they do fuel cell is because? they don?t really believe it, it?s something that they can? it is like a marketing thing.? ?There?s no need for us to have this debate. I?ve said my piece on this, it will be super obvious as time goes by.? EV expert Julian Cox wrote an article for us a couple years ago on why hydrogen cars are simply not green. The article got a lot of attention and was referenced widely (including by Joe Romm and some mainstream media outlets), but the message doesn?t seem to have broken through to many people in the ?green? and ?cleantech? community. Furthermore, hydrogen fuel cell cars continue to get subsidies from governments ? which is both a waste of money and counterproductive. Sure, keep investing a little bit in R&D, but don?t take away from the cash that should go toward battery-electric vehicles in order to quickly decarbonise transportation and help stop global warming
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better Elite	07-Dec-2021 09:51        better About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Fortune favours the brave. And Green is the new gold Oxtail      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:45) Posted: Our future is going to be exciting.  Imagine a fully automated settlement at international water  Wind power offshore station  green ammonia offshore producing plant green ammonia transport tanker Data storage station (if there are extra power)  and many more All the above is within SCM future capabilities. Singapore maybe can project their economic influrence outside Singapore and be an energy producing country.
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Oxtail Member	07-Dec-2021 09:49        Oxtail About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe.... garhman is planning..... maybe .....  Hahaahahaaa.... Maybe I can strike toto Hahaahaaaa....  Oxtail      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:45) Posted: Our future is going to be exciting.  Imagine a fully automated settlement at international water  Wind power offshore station  green ammonia offshore producing plant green ammonia transport tanker Data storage station (if there are extra power)  and many more All the above is within SCM future capabilities. Singapore maybe can project their economic influrence outside Singapore and be an energy producing country.
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Oxtail Member	07-Dec-2021 09:45        Oxtail About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Our future is going to be exciting.  Imagine a fully automated settlement at international water  Wind power offshore station  green ammonia offshore producing plant green ammonia transport tanker Data storage station (if there are extra power)  and many more All the above is within SCM future capabilities. Singapore maybe can project their economic influrence outside Singapore and be an energy producing country.
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desmodeus Veteran	07-Dec-2021 09:38        desmodeus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	how can scm stay below 20c. you are talking about a tan ma si company hor. no face la. long term growth strategy sure got one. alot of brain cells are killed
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dcproperty Senior	07-Dec-2021 09:25        dcproperty About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I am very confused with your status now. Are you:- > An investor? No, you admitted that you haven' t invested on this counter > Shortist? Mostly > Mr. Chart Expert. Yes, as claimed > Mr. CEO of SMM. Most likely from the way you talk. > Now? A scientist lo. No, you are not just a Scientist. You are also chart expert. You are Dr. Chart Expert.     Dr. Chart Expert, If I choose to sell ice cream on a rainy day. It got nothing to do with you. SMM designs green ammonia-fuelled  tanker. And Norway' s Grieg Maritime Group likes to buy. It got nothing do with you. Unless, you are bigger than Grieg Maritime Group. But don' t think highly of yourself, please Even if it failed last time, doesn' t mean it fails now.           Dot com bust many years ago. But dot com is everything now.   chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:18) Posted: In reality, You cannot fill up like you do with gasoline or diesel. It is actually pretty ridiculous how hard it is to fill up a HFC powered car You won?t even go 100 miles on current tech hydrogen tanks that are still safe to carry around in a car Fuel cells wear out crazy fast and are hard to regenerate Hydrogen as a fuel is incredibly hard to make and distribute with acceptably low losses Additionally, Hydrogen fuel cells have bad theoretical and practical efficiency Hydrogen storage is inefficient, energetically, volumetrically and with respect to weight HFCs require a shit ton of supporting systems, making them much more complicated and prone to failure than combustion or electric engines There is no infrastructure for distributing or even making hydrogen in large quantities. There won?t be for at least 20 or 30 years, even if we start building it like crazy today. Hydrogen is actually pretty hard to make. It has a horrible well-to-wheel efficiency as a result. Easy ways to get large quantities of hydrogen are not ?cleaner? than gasoline. Efficient HFCs have very slow response times, meaning you again need additional systems to store energy for accelerating Even though a HFC-powered car is essentially an electric car, you get none of the benefits like filling it up with your own power source, using it as a smart grid buffer, regenerating energy during braking, etc. Battery electric cars will always be better in every way given the speed of technological developments past, present and future I?ve written my own debunking of the legitimacy of hydrogen fuel cell cars. Physicist Joe Romm, PhD, who oversaw $1 billion in R&D, demonstration, and deployment of low-carbon technology in 1997 as acting assistant secretary of energy for energy efficiency and renewable energy under President Bill Clinton, has written several articles and an entire book on why hydrogen cars are overly hyped, not competitive with battery-electric cars, incredibly dumb, and (obviously) not a winning strategy. The author of the piece above was involved in the first international hydrogen racing championship, and as you can see if you read his articles, knows a lot about the technology. Elon Musk, another vocal HFCV critic, is a physicist by training and was interested since college, at least, in advancing sustainable transport. He specifically went the route of battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) rather than HFCVs because of inherent, huge advantages for BEVs. As he has noted, the theoretical limit for HFCVs isn?t even as good as current-tech BEVs?. As he stated last year: Hydrogen fuel cell cars ?are extremely silly.? ?Hydrogen is an incredibly dumb? fuel. ?Fuel cell is so bullshit, it?s a load of rubbish. The only reason they do fuel cell is because? they don?t really believe it, it?s something that they can? it is like a marketing thing.? ?There?s no need for us to have this debate. I?ve said my piece on this, it will be super obvious as time goes by.? EV expert Julian Cox wrote an article for us a couple years ago on why hydrogen cars are simply not green. The article got a lot of attention and was referenced widely (including by Joe Romm and some mainstream media outlets), but the message doesn?t seem to have broken through to many people in the ?green? and ?cleantech? community. Furthermore, hydrogen fuel cell cars continue to get subsidies from governments ? which is both a waste of money and counterproductive. Sure, keep investing a little bit in R&D, but don?t take away from the cash that should go toward battery-electric vehicles in order to quickly decarbonise transportation and help stop global warming. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:15) Posted: https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/
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chart_expert123 Master	07-Dec-2021 09:16        chart_expert123 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if SCM subsidiary in norway really secure the contract from Norway government, please sell away the subsidiary to raise money to solve internal debt issues instead of begging money from Temasek(it is public money!!!) and public(through investors). It just make SCM so ugly to act like MNC globally to own subsidiary in norway and brazil but on the expenses on 5.5mio merely population Sovereign Wealth fund.   chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 09:11) Posted: When there is no demand of hydrogen and fuel cell, what is the demand for the Ammonia which objective is to sell the hydrogen as fuel for the car. Sell electricity? come on, which country produce extra green energy from Solar and Wind. None, all are still below 30% or even less that 10%, highest like China is including the hydropower from Dam and nuclear add up is about 26-27% as green energy. Those has extra electricity like France produced from Nuclear will just sell the electricity to neighour country to Germany and etc. Sell electricity through ships is just a joke. A lot of proof already determined that it take much more energy and process to produce hydrogen as a fuel and storage is a big headache as well. When Battery Electric vehicle is already occupying the market as a green car, the immature fuel cell car is just no where.  You as a investor or government, will you build electric charging station or hydrogen fuel chargin station. Come on, don' t waste money in hydrogen or ammonia already which was the ideal much earlier than battery EV before Elon Mush stun the world with its battery ideal and Lithium ion battery come to world, soon, graphene or other battery technology will come to world. Charging station in singapore already a gov master plan in singapore same as china and europe. So, when all these are on going to consider as best solution to tacle climate change. SCM posted a joke of Ammonia carrier ship when none of the world has any storage facilities for it, those available storage is for old school ammonia mainly for fertilizer.  Please lah, don' t argue anymore lah.  better      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:58) Posted: Again.....still at cars. We are talking about ships here. Wrong thread.
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chart_expert123 Master	07-Dec-2021 09:11        chart_expert123 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	When there is no demand of hydrogen and fuel cell, what is the demand for the Ammonia which objective is to sell the hydrogen as fuel for the car. Sell electricity? come on, which country produce extra green energy from Solar and Wind. None, all are still below 30% or even less that 10%, highest like China is including the hydropower from Dam and nuclear add up is about 26-27% as green energy. Those has extra electricity like France produced from Nuclear will just sell the electricity to neighour country to Germany and etc. Sell electricity through ships is just a joke. A lot of proof already determined that it take much more energy and process to produce hydrogen as a fuel and storage is a big headache as well. When Battery Electric vehicle is already occupying the market as a green car, the immature fuel cell car is just no where.  You as a investor or government, will you build electric charging station or hydrogen fuel chargin station. Come on, don' t waste money in hydrogen or ammonia already which was the ideal much earlier than battery EV before Elon Mush stun the world with its battery ideal and Lithium ion battery come to world, soon, graphene or other battery technology will come to world. Charging station in singapore already a gov master plan in singapore same as china and europe. So, when all these are on going to consider as best solution to tacle climate change. SCM posted a joke of Ammonia carrier ship when none of the world has any storage facilities for it, those available storage is for old school ammonia mainly for fertilizer.  Please lah, don' t argue anymore lah.  better      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:58) Posted: Again.....still at cars. We are talking about ships here. Wrong thread. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:54) Posted: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-capital-envisages-10000-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-2025-2021-04-08/ https://insideevs.com/news/542665/china-plugin-car-sales-september2021/ I don' t know what you try to compare. This is like compare Nokia smart phone with Android and IOS Smart Phone in 201x. In total, some  355,000  new plug-in electric cars were registered last month, which is a new all-time record (three in a row, and the third in the past four months). The year-over-year growth rate  exceeds 170%, while the result is 24% higher than  the previous record in August. The city of Beijing aims to have over 10,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and build 74 hydrogen filling stations by 2025,
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chart_expert123 Master	07-Dec-2021 08:59        chart_expert123 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/sembcorp-launches-ev-charging-hub-in-tuas-deploys-electric-trucks-for-waste Sembcorp already launched EV trucks. BYD is the runner. So be careful when rubbish truck is behind you, you will smell it before hear it. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:54) Posted: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-capital-envisages-10000-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-2025-2021-04-08/ https://insideevs.com/news/542665/china-plugin-car-sales-september2021/ I don' t know what you try to compare. This is like compare Nokia smart phone with Android and IOS Smart Phone in 201x. In total, some  355,000  new plug-in electric cars were registered last month, which is a new all-time record (three in a row, and the third in the past four months). The year-over-year growth rate  exceeds 170%, while the result is 24% higher than  the previous record in August. The city of Beijing aims to have over 10,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and build 74 hydrogen filling stations by 2025,    vicloo      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:17) Posted: More n more of hydrogen fuel cell cars and trucks are already in China https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/jpmorgan-fuel-cell-vehicles-set-for-gains-in-china-truck-market.htm
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better Elite	07-Dec-2021 08:58        better About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Again.....still at cars. We are talking about ships here. Wrong thread. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:54) Posted: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-capital-envisages-10000-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-2025-2021-04-08/ https://insideevs.com/news/542665/china-plugin-car-sales-september2021/ I don' t know what you try to compare. This is like compare Nokia smart phone with Android and IOS Smart Phone in 201x. In total, some  355,000  new plug-in electric cars were registered last month, which is a new all-time record (three in a row, and the third in the past four months). The year-over-year growth rate  exceeds 170%, while the result is 24% higher than  the previous record in August. The city of Beijing aims to have over 10,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and build 74 hydrogen filling stations by 2025,    vicloo      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:17) Posted: More n more of hydrogen fuel cell cars and trucks are already in China https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/jpmorgan-fuel-cell-vehicles-set-for-gains-in-china-truck-market.htm
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chart_expert123 Master	07-Dec-2021 08:54        chart_expert123 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-capital-envisages-10000-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-2025-2021-04-08/ https://insideevs.com/news/542665/china-plugin-car-sales-september2021/ I don' t know what you try to compare. This is like compare Nokia smart phone with Android and IOS Smart Phone in 201x. In total, some  355,000  new plug-in electric cars were registered last month, which is a new all-time record (three in a row, and the third in the past four months). The year-over-year growth rate  exceeds 170%, while the result is 24% higher than  the previous record in August. The city of Beijing aims to have over 10,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and build 74 hydrogen filling stations by 2025,    vicloo      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 08:17) Posted: More n more of hydrogen fuel cell cars and trucks are already in China https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/jpmorgan-fuel-cell-vehicles-set-for-gains-in-china-truck-market.html chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:15) Posted: https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/
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better Elite	07-Dec-2021 08:42        better About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Still at cars. We are talking about ships here. Wrong thread. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:18) Posted: In reality, You cannot fill up like you do with gasoline or diesel. It is actually pretty ridiculous how hard it is to fill up a HFC powered car You won?t even go 100 miles on current tech hydrogen tanks that are still safe to carry around in a car Fuel cells wear out crazy fast and are hard to regenerate Hydrogen as a fuel is incredibly hard to make and distribute with acceptably low losses Additionally, Hydrogen fuel cells have bad theoretical and practical efficiency Hydrogen storage is inefficient, energetically, volumetrically and with respect to weight HFCs require a shit ton of supporting systems, making them much more complicated and prone to failure than combustion or electric engines There is no infrastructure for distributing or even making hydrogen in large quantities. There won?t be for at least 20 or 30 years, even if we start building it like crazy today. Hydrogen is actually pretty hard to make. It has a horrible well-to-wheel efficiency as a result. Easy ways to get large quantities of hydrogen are not ?cleaner? than gasoline. Efficient HFCs have very slow response times, meaning you again need additional systems to store energy for accelerating Even though a HFC-powered car is essentially an electric car, you get none of the benefits like filling it up with your own power source, using it as a smart grid buffer, regenerating energy during braking, etc. Battery electric cars will always be better in every way given the speed of technological developments past, present and future I?ve written my own debunking of the legitimacy of hydrogen fuel cell cars. Physicist Joe Romm, PhD, who oversaw $1 billion in R&D, demonstration, and deployment of low-carbon technology in 1997 as acting assistant secretary of energy for energy efficiency and renewable energy under President Bill Clinton, has written several articles and an entire book on why hydrogen cars are overly hyped, not competitive with battery-electric cars, incredibly dumb, and (obviously) not a winning strategy. The author of the piece above was involved in the first international hydrogen racing championship, and as you can see if you read his articles, knows a lot about the technology. Elon Musk, another vocal HFCV critic, is a physicist by training and was interested since college, at least, in advancing sustainable transport. He specifically went the route of battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) rather than HFCVs because of inherent, huge advantages for BEVs. As he has noted, the theoretical limit for HFCVs isn?t even as good as current-tech BEVs?. As he stated last year: Hydrogen fuel cell cars ?are extremely silly.? ?Hydrogen is an incredibly dumb? fuel. ?Fuel cell is so bullshit, it?s a load of rubbish. The only reason they do fuel cell is because? they don?t really believe it, it?s something that they can? it is like a marketing thing.? ?There?s no need for us to have this debate. I?ve said my piece on this, it will be super obvious as time goes by.? EV expert Julian Cox wrote an article for us a couple years ago on why hydrogen cars are simply not green. The article got a lot of attention and was referenced widely (including by Joe Romm and some mainstream media outlets), but the message doesn?t seem to have broken through to many people in the ?green? and ?cleantech? community. Furthermore, hydrogen fuel cell cars continue to get subsidies from governments ? which is both a waste of money and counterproductive. Sure, keep investing a little bit in R&D, but don?t take away from the cash that should go toward battery-electric vehicles in order to quickly decarbonise transportation and help stop global warming. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:15) Posted: https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/
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x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	More n more of hydrogen fuel cell cars and trucks are already in China https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/jpmorgan-fuel-cell-vehicles-set-for-gains-in-china-truck-market.html chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:15) Posted: https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/
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x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	In reality, You cannot fill up like you do with gasoline or diesel. It is actually pretty ridiculous how hard it is to fill up a HFC powered car You won?t even go 100 miles on current tech hydrogen tanks that are still safe to carry around in a car Fuel cells wear out crazy fast and are hard to regenerate Hydrogen as a fuel is incredibly hard to make and distribute with acceptably low losses Additionally, Hydrogen fuel cells have bad theoretical and practical efficiency Hydrogen storage is inefficient, energetically, volumetrically and with respect to weight HFCs require a shit ton of supporting systems, making them much more complicated and prone to failure than combustion or electric engines There is no infrastructure for distributing or even making hydrogen in large quantities. There won?t be for at least 20 or 30 years, even if we start building it like crazy today. Hydrogen is actually pretty hard to make. It has a horrible well-to-wheel efficiency as a result. Easy ways to get large quantities of hydrogen are not ?cleaner? than gasoline. Efficient HFCs have very slow response times, meaning you again need additional systems to store energy for accelerating Even though a HFC-powered car is essentially an electric car, you get none of the benefits like filling it up with your own power source, using it as a smart grid buffer, regenerating energy during braking, etc. Battery electric cars will always be better in every way given the speed of technological developments past, present and future I?ve written my own debunking of the legitimacy of hydrogen fuel cell cars. Physicist Joe Romm, PhD, who oversaw $1 billion in R&D, demonstration, and deployment of low-carbon technology in 1997 as acting assistant secretary of energy for energy efficiency and renewable energy under President Bill Clinton, has written several articles and an entire book on why hydrogen cars are overly hyped, not competitive with battery-electric cars, incredibly dumb, and (obviously) not a winning strategy. The author of the piece above was involved in the first international hydrogen racing championship, and as you can see if you read his articles, knows a lot about the technology. Elon Musk, another vocal HFCV critic, is a physicist by training and was interested since college, at least, in advancing sustainable transport. He specifically went the route of battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) rather than HFCVs because of inherent, huge advantages for BEVs. As he has noted, the theoretical limit for HFCVs isn?t even as good as current-tech BEVs?. As he stated last year: Hydrogen fuel cell cars ?are extremely silly.? ?Hydrogen is an incredibly dumb? fuel. ?Fuel cell is so bullshit, it?s a load of rubbish. The only reason they do fuel cell is because? they don?t really believe it, it?s something that they can? it is like a marketing thing.? ?There?s no need for us to have this debate. I?ve said my piece on this, it will be super obvious as time goes by.? EV expert Julian Cox wrote an article for us a couple years ago on why hydrogen cars are simply not green. The article got a lot of attention and was referenced widely (including by Joe Romm and some mainstream media outlets), but the message doesn?t seem to have broken through to many people in the ?green? and ?cleantech? community. Furthermore, hydrogen fuel cell cars continue to get subsidies from governments ? which is both a waste of money and counterproductive. Sure, keep investing a little bit in R&D, but don?t take away from the cash that should go toward battery-electric vehicles in order to quickly decarbonise transportation and help stop global warming. chart_expert123      ( Date: 07-Dec-2021 07:15) Posted: https://energypost.eu/hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars-competitive-hydrogen-fuel-cell-expert/
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chart_expert123 Master	07-Dec-2021 07:15        chart_expert123 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Only buy stock with revenue or net cash flow growth!!!!"
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