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marketuncle
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15-Feb-2024 08:29
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I' m writing off my KORE and PRIME, put in cold storage until 2027. If its still there, will be a bonus :P | ||||
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EricNat
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15-Feb-2024 08:14
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Price will drop by 20% upon opening? What's your best guess? | ||||
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gametheory99
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15-Feb-2024 08:10
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Actually think this is a good move. If not, we can see what happened to Manulife, also had to suspend distributions but the hard way haha... In fact, I was wondering why Manulife didn't suspend distributions earlier as well... in any case, Keppel Pac tenants are stable, this is just being proactive
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marketuncle
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15-Feb-2024 07:55
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GG. compared to MUST already better. Just suspend distribution until 2026. :( | ||||
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marketuncle
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08-Feb-2024 12:25
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Just announced results to release on 15 feb. Should help to pacify jittery investors | ||||
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delsolvtec
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06-Feb-2024 18:04
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Won't recover till Fed Reserve reduces IR. Look for 20ct before recovery Hope they don't break 50% leverage before then.... | ||||
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piscesmonkey
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06-Feb-2024 13:16
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Strong buying. Going recover 30cents above soon. | ||||
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marketuncle
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02-Feb-2024 12:47
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Maybe so when it drop close to 20%. But current rebound w/o material news looks more like speculative volatility. Same for the other US office REITs. | ||||
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piscesmonkey
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02-Feb-2024 12:21
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Hmm what i see that already priced in when drop to 240
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piscesmonkey
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02-Feb-2024 12:00
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Close 30cents today?
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marketuncle
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02-Feb-2024 10:41
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Looks likely to be very volatile until the results are out, expecting it to be close to the 60-day deadline, i.e 29 Feb. | ||||
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piscesmonkey
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02-Feb-2024 09:57
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Look like rebound start. US on bullish mode. Going back above 30cents? | ||||
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delsolvtec
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02-Feb-2024 09:16
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They valuation drop in KORE , at most worsens their leverage to about 43% which is still very safe. The coy probably needed a few days to redo their Results presentation to shareholder taking into account the new Valuations.
I think actually this might be a gd time to load up. If it stop dropping for 3d, I shall go in for 1 million shares.
Basically , their biz is intact and Valuation drops are easy to explain. Valuations are in.... USD..... the USD has climbed alot in the last 2y , thats why the Valuations on buildings r forced to drop. Abit unfair if i may say.
But the US office sector is turning around. The US economy is chugging along at 5% gdp growth.
Even for Prime US , the 3Q leasing momentum was MORE THAN the 1Q and 2Q COMBINED.
So i think KORE is a gift.
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marketuncle
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02-Feb-2024 09:02
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think the big drop has more to do with the unexpected delay in results annoucement and w/o corresponding update on the reason why the delay nor expected release. | ||||
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delsolvtec
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01-Feb-2024 22:44
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To be fair to KORE , 6% DEVALUATION doesnt put them in any danger leverage wise. This is probably the Low for the devaluation, IR wont keep rising anymore. So its likely an over reaction amid an unexpected devaluation. So if it settles down , time to buy when they finally get their numbers out.
20ct wld be a great price. |
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Joelton
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01-Feb-2024 17:52
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Kore drops as much as 25% on news of portfolio devaluation, results delay
 
UNITS of Keppel Pacific Oak US Reit : CMOU -12.5% (Kore) fell on Wednesday (Jan 31) morning the day after its manager announced that the real estate investment trust&rsquo s (Reit) portfolio valuation as at end-2023 fell 6.8 per cent to US$1.3 billion.
 
The counter slid as much as US$0.08 or 25 per cent to US$0.24 as at 9.52 am, amid heavy trading volumes with 4.3 million of its units changing hands, which is well above the Reit&rsquo s daily average volume of 2.6 million.
 
It later recovered slightly to trade at US$0.26 at the midday break, down 18.8 per cent or US$0.06, after 7.8 million units were transacted.
 
The counter ended the day US$0.04 or 12.5 per cent lower at US$0.28, after 13.4 million units were transacted.
 
Other Singapore-listed US office Reits were trading lower as well.
 
Manulife US Reit : BTOU -6.25% closed US$0.004 or 6.3 per cent lower at US$0.06, after losing as much as US$0.007 or 10.9 per cent to US$0.057 in the morning.
 
Prime US Reit : OXMU -8.74% retreated 13 per cent or US$0.024 in early trade to touch a low of US$0.159, before clawing its way back up to US$0.167 at the close, representing a decline of 8.7 per cent or US$0.016.
 
To recap, Kore&rsquo s manager on Tuesday attributed a majority of Kore&rsquo s portfolio valuation decline to four of the Reit&rsquo s 13 properties, namely: The Plaza Buildings, Westmoor Center, Bellevue Technology Center and Iron Point.
 
This was largely due to an increase in capitalisation and discount rates, as well as higher vacancy rates assumed for 2024.
 
The manager concurrently announced that Kore&rsquo s results release for the second-half and full-year ended Dec 31, 2023, would also be delayed beyond the initially announced Jan 31 deadline. 
 
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delsolvtec
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01-Feb-2024 13:29
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Then you better sell short. NOW
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mikewb21
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01-Feb-2024 09:39
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Overvalued by 60% lol. Their properties are different, Prime is in main US cities while KORE is in sunbelt cities, tenant profile also different. Anyway wait for results ba. Wish us all good luck
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marketuncle
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01-Feb-2024 08:18
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I see MUST, PRIME and KORE as a package... thus i' m active in all 3 forums.... and current prices reflecting the dire US office suitation, no light at the end of the tunnel yet. In terms of ppty (de)valuation, MUST already reported 8% drop in 6mth, KORE 6.8% in 12 mth, so PRIME likely somwhere in between. Though KORE has the most ' ' safe' ' assets, i.e. few gateway cities assets and more support from tech tenants are also feeling the pressure now with wave after wave of tech retrenchments, i.e. hinting at lowering demands ahead. Anyway, amongst the 3, MUST has actually derisked first with its succesful restructuring. Now the eyes on PRIME and KORE to see who' s next. I' m not surprised if both eventually have to go the path of MUST to survive. | ||||
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delsolvtec
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31-Jan-2024 18:58
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Famous last words.
KORE distributable income last Q was 13million, less than Prime 14million.
Kore is overvalued compared to Prime by at least 60% .
KORE will likely reach 20ct , on par w Prime.
Both will survive and likely return to 40 to 50ct minimum , once IR start to reduce and valuations have been written down enough.
KORE valuation of their properties were somehow " left stable " last year in 2023, i think around may, which was a Surprise. But obviously that was false, as we can see now.
Prime reduced the value of their properties as expected last year. Unlike KORE.
Investors who thought Kore was " Safer" than Prime, when Prime was being shorted, were obviously living a pipedream.
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