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MrBear12
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12-Apr-2024 22:05
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Jandec, we must look at the whole history of this reit to understand its rot. A passer by will merely see the surface and miss the rotten core.
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Jandec
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12-Apr-2024 22:01
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i' m no friend of anyone in Sabana.  I' m just a passby, a kapo.  Someone just asked me to look into this.  I just watched a couple of videos on Sabana website.    The CEO is a driven person, as far as I can see he works well for the co.  There is a time to plant,...and a time to uproot.  I couldn' t understand why there is so much agnst, is it personal or is it money, I really don' t know.    But I find it very difficult to understand that a 9% return is considered low and something low enough to upset the whole apple cart.    Really funny, people.  |
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Jandec
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12-Apr-2024 21:54
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Oh, here' s the 9% thingy.  
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Jandec
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12-Apr-2024 21:49
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Uppermost in my mind are these questions: 1.  What were the motivations for the defamatory statements to be made?    2.  Having heard that they were fed with lies, how are the unitholders going to react? 3.  Has anyone does a cost-benefit analysis, I mean a proper one, on internalisation? 4.  Is SREIM really doing a lousy job?    I thought I saw someone posted a 9% return...now if that is considered lousy, I don' t know what to say.      |
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Jandec
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12-Apr-2024 21:42
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The operational issues are:  1.  What percentage of unitholders is required to amend the Trust deed.  It has to be amended, based on Trustee' s assessment outlined.  If it is 75%, the chances of it being amended is slim. 2.  Can you simply " kick out the external manager" ?    Are there compensation clauses- has anyone looked at this?  Past cases of internalisation indicate a " buying out" of the external manager, and if this is similar, won' t that be a price for unitholders to pay?  And what is the price?  Isn' t ESR to decide? |
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Jandec
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12-Apr-2024 21:30
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The Trustee had made known that amendment of the Trust deed is necessary: Below is the Trustee' s 2 cents (you can find on Sabana website): " These amendments require certain Unitholders to comply with applicable legal and regulatory requirements on an ongoing basis if they hold or control a certain number of Units, which were not previously applicable under an external REIT manager model and are being introduced as a consequence to the implementation of the internalisation. The amendments change Unitholders' and investors' expectations when investing and trading in the Units and under certain circumstances impose additional obligations onto Unitholders, such as entry requirements, regulatory pre-clearance, and continued disclosure requirements in respect of their unitholding (in proportion to their interest in the shares of the New Internalised Manager). These amendments (and the consequences of them) were not contemplated at the time of passing of the 7 August 2023 EGM approving the internalisation. In addition, Unitholders were not informed at the 7 August 2023 EGM that these legal and regulatory requirements may apply to them as a consequence of the internalisation." " These amendments result in a material change to the nature of the borrowings / fund raisings undertaken by Sabana Industrial REIT, and exposes Sabana Industrial REIT to credit risks that are not ordinarily characteristic of passive real-estate investments.  As a consequence of implementing the internalisation, the risk profile of Sabana Industrial REIT with an internalised manager model is different from its previous externally managed model. These amendments (and the consequences of them) were not contemplated at the time of passing of the 7 August 2023 EGM approving the internalisation."     BT 8 Apr 24 reported Quarz made false statements regarding cost savings on internalisation.    As a result of the drive for internalisation, Sabana IR has lost monies (look at the implication of this statement).    The activist investor acknowledged its public letter dated Jul 19 was erroneous in mentioning that the removal of the external Sabana manager will result in cost savings to Sabana Reit of about S$7.25 million of fees. It highlighted as well that its statements about a potential conflict of interest should not be understood to mean that ESR had intended to act or were acting in actual or potential conflict of interest. Quarz also said the alleged defamatory statements were &ldquo not intended to defame or publish falsehoods&rdquo relating to ESR. In its Apr 8 letter, ESR maintained that the entire episode with Quarz has &ldquo resulted in a diminished value&rdquo of Sabana Reit&rsquo s unit price, notwithstanding estimated costs of about S$3.3 million as at end-2023 incurred from the Reit internalisation process. ESR said that costs borne by unitholders were further &ldquo exacerbated&rdquo by the recent  Mar 8 extraordinary general meeting, which was requisitioned by a group of unitholders led by Quarz who called themselves the Sabana Growth Internalisation Committee. &ldquo All these factors impact Sabana Reit&rsquo s performance and its distribution per unit. For us, the only goal is to achieve unity and profitability for all unitholders. We seek to work with all parties to ensure an outcome that is in the best interests of all unitholders,&rdquo said ESR. &ldquo We have always maintained that the cost savings of internalisation have been grossly overstated and Quarz&rsquo s proposal does not take into full consideration the complexities of the internalisation process and the significant time and costs it will take, as per the trustee&rsquo s comments,&rdquo added the company, referring to HSBC Institutional Trust Services (Singapore) as Sabana Reit&rsquo s trustee. |
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sealTeam3
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12-Apr-2024 20:50
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This letter is from chan wai keong .. didn' t he get voted down by unitholders because he has some past dealings with ESR? luckily unitholders are wise enough not to endorse him as director..The letter just doesn' t make sense to me. Unitholders already voted FOR internalization. And now the trustee is saying that unitholders have no clue what they signed up for? Look at recent votes please.. it' s clear that unitholders want internalization to happen. Trustee should stop making things so complicated. Internalization is a 50% majority vote! Make it happen! 
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MrBear12
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12-Apr-2024 20:44
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Wind up will be disaster for shareholders. | ||||
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RumbaRambo
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12-Apr-2024 20:23
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No lah. Not dragging on for ever. MAS might step in. Or wind up. current price 36.5, NAV is 52. Wind up would be big win for unitholders. Many solutions possible. Good initative by Quarz!!! SG REITs need option to internalise. 
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MrBear12
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11-Apr-2024 22:52
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Out of so many other industrial REITS, this guy first drew my eye because it was Shariah compliant when it first started in 2010. I was interested in Shariah finance then. Now, this REITS is no longer practising Shariah investment. So I am not interested in this anymore. I am free to invest in other industrial reits who have better managers. I see the problem here is not the type of finance adopted whether Shariah or the usual kind, neither is it the types of properties they own, it is the lousy manager who did not look after shareholders' interests. Yet they pocket their manager' s fees and so on but were not replaced. Also, in general, one must look for a good sponsor of a reit. Look, who' s the sponsor of Sabana? Trade with good managers and sponsors |
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luckyplate
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11-Apr-2024 10:41
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Progress comes just in Time .. can we get more good news soon ... ?
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BlackAx
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10-Apr-2024 18:29
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No pain,no gain.Finally the troops are marching as one unit.The destination is in sight. | ||||
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sangsang1
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10-Apr-2024 17:38
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Quarz resolve lawsuit with ESR, Vaolare up stake to 16%. this is going to be very interesting | ||||
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Joelton
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10-Apr-2024 16:03
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Sabana Reit trustee gives indicative timeline for internalisation, with EGM in Q3
HSBC INSTITUTIONAL Trust Services, or the trustee of Sabana Industrial Real Estate Investment Trust : M1GU 0% (Sabana Reit), has presented an indicative timeline for the internalisation of the trust' s management function.
 
The extraordinary general meetings (EGMs) to implement and effect the internalisation are likely to be in Q3. 
 
In a statement addressed to Sabana Real Estate Investment Management &ndash the current manager of Sabana Reit &ndash that was posted to the bourse on Tuesday (Apr 9), the trustee outlined a " workplan" over the next six months pertaining to the internalisation timeline, spanning from the appointment of professional advisers to the transition and operationalisation. 
 
A number of the different stages of the internalisation were, however, dependent on the prior steps. 
 
The trustee also said that the total costs incurred between Jan 1 and Mar 31 this year related to the implementation of the internalisation process amounted to about S$2.1 million. These costs, HSBC Institutional Trust Services said, comprised the trustee' s expenses on a cost-recovery basis (1 per cent), as well as fees incurred for legal advisers, financial and tax analysis, and change and project management that jointly accounted for the remaining 99 per cent. 
 
The trustee said the costs of implementing the internalisation process to date comprise the costs incurred that are related to implementing the internalisation in accordance with the resolutions passed at the EGM on Aug 7 last year, costs incurred in connection with the Order 32 Application, as well as costs incurred in considering and responding to correspondence and proposals from certain unitholders in relation to the internalisation. 
 
HSBC Institutional Trust Services also said the internalisation committee did not notify or discuss the second requisitioned resolutions with it prior to the issuance of the notice. 
 
" The trustee is concerned that if the second requisitioned resolutions are passed, this could create uncertainty and prejudice for Sabana Industrial Reit and its unitholders," the trustee said in the statement. 
 
The trustee argued that most of these resolutions seek to " circumvent the need to table proposed trust deed amendments for unitholders' consideration and approval" by way of an extraordinary resolution by directing the trustee to, among other things, consult regulatory authorities for other alternatives, take steps to enable it to exercise its discretion under the trust deed to certify these proposed trust deed amendments, and incorporate these proposed trust deed amendments elsewhere apart from the deed itself. 
 
It further argued that the removal of these amendments in question from the trust deed could result in " ambiguities" in the deed, and cause prejudice to the operation and management of Sabana Industrial Reit and its unitholders. 
 
" Regulators are the appropriate authorities for regulatory matters within their jurisdiction but not necessarily for issues of law. Issues of law relating to the interpretation and application of the trust deed are appropriately heard and should be resolved by the court as the appropriate forum," the trustee added. 
 
The trustee also asked unitholders to " carefully consider and evaluate the information" it had set out in an annex about its rationale for each proposed trust deed amendment and the risks it had identified that could affect the Reit and its unitholders in the event the amendment is not adopted. 
 
" The trustee will continue to provide further updates and engage with unitholders in respect of material developments," it added. 
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MrBear12
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09-Apr-2024 22:37
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Like I said since day one I joined the forum, it is a mismanaged REITS. For many years alledy... ... Painful for unitholders. But Sell    |
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sangsang1
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09-Apr-2024 21:15
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from the announcement, its settlement with no admission of liability.. this will be both parties agree to walk away with no case and payment  Quarz Capital has reached an amicable resolution with ESR on HC/OC 492/2023, without any admission of liability on the part of either party (see our Statement below). With the resolution achieved, Quarz will now be fully focused on supporting Sabana unitholders, the Sabana Growth Internalisation Committee (SGIC), and HSBC Institutional Trust Services (Singapore) Limited to ensure that Internalisation can be completed as expeditiously as possible, so that all unitholders can start benefitting from the potential dividend per unit (DPU) and unit price growth as soon as possible.   |
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pkli899
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09-Apr-2024 17:37
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All the times they do. So, this round should also.
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sangsang1
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09-Apr-2024 17:27
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very interesting.. Vaolare increased its stake to 17%. they see the value | ||||
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luckyplate
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09-Apr-2024 09:34
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Any idea they serve refreshment at coming AGM in April ?
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sangsang1
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08-Apr-2024 19:31
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good move by Quarz.. shows that these guys are very pragmatic and move fast.  all the other stuffs are yesterday stuffs. now closed with the settlement...  internalization is the main focus now.. Gambatte! Gambatte!  |
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.. didn' t he get voted down by unitholders because he has some past dealings with ESR? luckily unitholders are wise enough not to endorse him as director..