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bystander1965 Supreme	16-Dec-2020 13:01        bystander1965 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "What I say is just my assessment. DYODD"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha, then we have a circular calculation. I can' t find its current NTA. Incidentally CIMB and UOB-KH initiated add in the past week or so, and the price just shot up and now tumbling. Co-incident much? valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:45) Posted: i did a rough calculation based on your nta per share data of 0.18 to obtain nta of $118.512m but its cash reserves are less than $50m with high debts so this company is highly geared. also, I don' t see any r& d expenditures in its financials (correct me if I m wrong) so I m assuming they are riding on its core product which is the coating tech... sorry this is rough analysis i just think and type on handphone... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:38) Posted: Based on your number, it roughly adds up to 0.4? I vaguely remember seeing 0.4x somewhere but can' t remember where ... I stand corrected on this
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Kazerin Elite	16-Dec-2020 12:46        Kazerin About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Your Stop Loss Is My Profit Target"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	paging bro ss2017... your pm got no title so i cant open but nonetheless i got your love letter. some crazy things i did in december, went through a ton of trading courses which im able to get my hands on and i can tell you a bunch of them are just rubbish. No wonder newbies always get scammed. But some of it are pure gold and there are a few i can point out. Some rubbish like urban forex, steve mauro - beat the market makers, rockfx, and a few more cant rem. the pure gold one are ICT, trader dante, will hunting ( i didnt go through his course but i went through some of his vids this man knows his game but his courses are bloody expensive) , chris lori (went thru a old course of his and really quite good)  In summary, alot of these trading courses are really not well structure and even if they are, not content rich or precise. End of it, the method im sharing is not new in fact it is very old but hopefully there are some  things in there that can open up your eyes and let you see clearer on how price works. Trader dante got a trading mind map plan ( like a flow chart of yes and no) and he claim basically nobody can lose money if follow this, but if u did means u let  your winners turn to losers or risk management not good.  The challenge for me now is to turn this bits and pcs of info and piece them together so that majority of ppl can understand clearly what is happening in a series of candlesticks
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valve2020 Veteran	16-Dec-2020 12:45        valve2020 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "life is like stocks, full of ups and downs"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i did a rough calculation based on your nta per share data of 0.18 to obtain nta of $118.512m but its cash reserves are less than $50m with high debts so this company is highly geared. also, I don' t see any r& d expenditures in its financials (correct me if I m wrong) so I m assuming they are riding on its core product which is the coating tech... sorry this is rough analysis i just think and type on handphone... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:38) Posted: Based on your number, it roughly adds up to 0.4? I vaguely remember seeing 0.4x somewhere but can' t remember where ... I stand corrected on this. bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:35) Posted: I think the 0.22 NTA is before the IPO. Post IPO I don' t have the number handy
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bystander1965 Supreme	16-Dec-2020 12:38        bystander1965 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "What I say is just my assessment. DYODD"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Based on your number, it roughly adds up to 0.4? I vaguely remember seeing 0.4x somewhere but can' t remember where ... I stand corrected on this. bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:35) Posted: I think the 0.22 NTA is before the IPO. Post IPO I don' t have the number handy. valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:29) Posted: its ipo listing price at $2.59? then-current price is about 64% premium from its ipo price and with its total shares post ipo of 658.4 and nta per share at 0.18...its nta should be around $118.512m as such the company is investing heavily on high tech equipment for its coating and nanotech businesses..
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bystander1965 Supreme	16-Dec-2020 12:35        bystander1965 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "What I say is just my assessment. DYODD"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think the 0.22 NTA is before the IPO. Post IPO I don' t have the number handy. valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:29) Posted: its ipo listing price at $2.59? then-current price is about 64% premium from its ipo price and with its total shares post ipo of 658.4 and nta per share at 0.18...its nta should be around $118.512m as such the company is investing heavily on high tech equipment for its coating and nanotech businesses... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:05) Posted: At least it' s a niche. For this type of company, it' s always future. It' s not a newbie and has been profitable for many years. To put the record right, their EPS for 2017/18/19 were 5/6/7 cents. NTA (not NAV) 0.18/0.18/0.2
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Kazerin Elite	16-Dec-2020 12:35        Kazerin About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Technical   Mood: Yells: "Your Stop Loss Is My Profit Target"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi guys, ok let me go and prepare it then maybe put into a document or pdf then let you all download then any questions u all can ask here.  Topics i will cover, phychology, money management and trading plan/strategy. it will be simple so not going to complicate things.  the topics are in that flow of the order because they are to me the most importants aspects of trading. Trading is just like driving. if you cant drive, give u lambo also no use. If u cant control urself, give you a 90% win rate system you also wil screw up.  Ok let me work on it so that even a 16 year old can understand.
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valve2020 Veteran	16-Dec-2020 12:29        valve2020 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "life is like stocks, full of ups and downs"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	its ipo listing price at $2.59? then-current price is about 64% premium from its ipo price and with its total shares post ipo of 658.4 and nta per share at 0.18...its nta should be around $118.512m as such the company is investing heavily on high tech equipment for its coating and nanotech businesses... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 12:05) Posted: At least it' s a niche. For this type of company, it' s always future. It' s not a newbie and has been profitable for many years. To put the record right, their EPS for 2017/18/19 were 5/6/7 cents. NTA (not NAV) 0.18/0.18/0.22 valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:48) Posted: ya...seems the company' s main business is in coating tech only. if its nav is in tens of cents niah and pe at 40 to 50 times?! investors should know what they are getting themselves into when buying this stock...
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JusMeOnly Member	16-Dec-2020 12:18        JusMeOnly About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Have already sent PM. Bro Kazerin, I think overwhelming response le.. Looking forward to your upcoming post Kazerin      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:41) Posted: Hi everyone , as the festive season is coming and it is a season of sharing i will like to maybe start something simple and easy to share with everyone a simple way to trade. This is not a get rich scheme, nor is it a foolproof trade plan but with a good risk management plan, discipline and patience your account should be growing.  PM me if anybody is interested and if i get at least 5 lizards that want to learn, then i shall share. Not because it is secret, there is no secret out there.  It is just a bit time consuming and i need to think on how to structure it in my post to make it easy for everyone to understand.
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RonHo47 Member	16-Dec-2020 12:15        RonHo47 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro Kazerin, Please count me in and thanks... Kazerin      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:41) Posted: Hi everyone , as the festive season is coming and it is a season of sharing i will like to maybe start something simple and easy to share with everyone a simple way to trade. This is not a get rich scheme, nor is it a foolproof trade plan but with a good risk management plan, discipline and patience your account should be growing.  PM me if anybody is interested and if i get at least 5 lizards that want to learn, then i shall share. Not because it is secret, there is no secret out there.  It is just a bit time consuming and i need to think on how to structure it in my post to make it easy for everyone to understand.
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strikecal Senior	16-Dec-2020 12:14        strikecal About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	How can I not join this? Chiongggg arh!  I think more than 5 already. Lets go lets go. On a side note, thanks Bro Kazerin and all in this thread for contributing. I have grown a tail and have been watch from the sidelines. Covid stocks are not for me.   Waiting for the time to play GR again. Cheers all! Kazerin      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:41) Posted: Hi everyone , as the festive season is coming and it is a season of sharing i will like to maybe start something simple and easy to share with everyone a simple way to trade. This is not a get rich scheme, nor is it a foolproof trade plan but with a good risk management plan, discipline and patience your account should be growing.  PM me if anybody is interested and if i get at least 5 lizards that want to learn, then i shall share. Not because it is secret, there is no secret out there.  It is just a bit time consuming and i need to think on how to structure it in my post to make it easy for everyone to understand.
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elisa28 Master	16-Dec-2020 12:12        elisa28 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Brother Kazerin, anymore sit. Can count me in ? Please. Thank you in advance. Kazerin      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:41) Posted: Hi everyone , as the festive season is coming and it is a season of sharing i will like to maybe start something simple and easy to share with everyone a simple way to trade. This is not a get rich scheme, nor is it a foolproof trade plan but with a good risk management plan, discipline and patience your account should be growing.  PM me if anybody is interested and if i get at least 5 lizards that want to learn, then i shall share. Not because it is secret, there is no secret out there.  It is just a bit time consuming and i need to think on how to structure it in my post to make it easy for everyone to understand.
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bystander1965 Supreme	16-Dec-2020 12:05        bystander1965 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood: Yells: "What I say is just my assessment. DYODD"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At least it' s a niche. For this type of company, it' s always future. It' s not a newbie and has been profitable for many years. To put the record right, their EPS for 2017/18/19 were 5/6/7 cents. NTA (not NAV) 0.18/0.18/0.22 valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:48) Posted: ya...seems the company' s main business is in coating tech only. if its nav is in tens of cents niah and pe at 40 to 50 times?! investors should know what they are getting themselves into when buying this stock.... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: It offered only a small pool for retailers. The rest all institutions. In fact a comment was that it looked like the retail offer was a after thought. So to me it' s a " cornered" stock. If I am not wrong the profit decreases this year but fairly consistent over the last few years. Like the glove/ppe its NAV is in tens of cents (can' t remember the exact figure). So what premium to put on top of that? It at least has a high barrier of entry but still, scarely for me at 40-50x PE or 5-10x PB
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wavehunter Supreme	16-Dec-2020 11:53        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Nano is available at IG. Margin is 25%. SHORTable. This one is not labelled as " unborrowable" which means can SHORT.
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wavehunter Supreme	16-Dec-2020 11:49        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is her 30-Min chart for 2 weeks. Not enough history to use Daily chart. She is like a bungee jumper who can jump anytime without warning. When she jumps, the drop can be one dollar. . bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: It offered only a small pool for retailers. The rest all institutions. In fact a comment was that it looked like the retail offer was a after thought. So to me it' s a " cornered" stock. If I am not wrong the profit decreases this year but fairly consistent over the last few years. Like the glove/ppe its NAV is in tens of cents (can' t remember the exact figure). So what premium to put on top of that? It at least has a high barrier of entry but still, scarely for me at 40-50x PE or 5-10x PB. valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:25) Posted: the company has been in operation since 1999 according to its website with its main business in coating tech and nanotech.....quite surprised it listed in this pandemic year and priced at this high price..
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valve2020 Veteran	16-Dec-2020 11:48        valve2020 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "life is like stocks, full of ups and downs"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ya...seems the company' s main business is in coating tech only. if its nav is in tens of cents niah and pe at 40 to 50 times?! investors should know what they are getting themselves into when buying this stock.... bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: It offered only a small pool for retailers. The rest all institutions. In fact a comment was that it looked like the retail offer was a after thought. So to me it' s a " cornered" stock. If I am not wrong the profit decreases this year but fairly consistent over the last few years. Like the glove/ppe its NAV is in tens of cents (can' t remember the exact figure). So what premium to put on top of that? It at least has a high barrier of entry but still, scarely for me at 40-50x PE or 5-10x PB. valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:25) Posted: the company has been in operation since 1999 according to its website with its main business in coating tech and nanotech.....quite surprised it listed in this pandemic year and priced at this high price..
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rotijai Supreme	16-Dec-2020 11:45        rotijai About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	" wave hand" ..... Kazerin      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:41) Posted: Hi everyone , as the festive season is coming and it is a season of sharing i will like to maybe start something simple and easy to share with everyone a simple way to trade. This is not a get rich scheme, nor is it a foolproof trade plan but with a good risk management plan, discipline and patience your account should be growing.  PM me if anybody is interested and if i get at least 5 lizards that want to learn, then i shall share. Not because it is secret, there is no secret out there.  It is just a bit time consuming and i need to think on how to structure it in my post to make it easy for everyone to understand.
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wavehunter Supreme	16-Dec-2020 11:38        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This one can wait for the bubble to burst to bring out the cucumber becoz it will be like another COVID stock all over again. bystander1965      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: It offered only a small pool for retailers. The rest all institutions. In fact a comment was that it looked like the retail offer was a after thought. So to me it' s a " cornered" stock. If I am not wrong the profit decreases this year but fairly consistent over the last few years. Like the glove/ppe its NAV is in tens of cents (can' t remember the exact figure). So what premium to put on top of that? It at least has a high barrier of entry but still, scarely for me at 40-50x PE or 5-10x PB. valve2020      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:25) Posted: the company has been in operation since 1999 according to its website with its main business in coating tech and nanotech.....quite surprised it listed in this pandemic year and priced at this high price..
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CheeryVGoh Supreme	16-Dec-2020 11:37        CheeryVGoh About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That' s a happy action and happy sound. Huat Ah!  elisa28      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:33) Posted: Thanks Sis, trying to open my tin cover more often. Hehehe. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: Congrats, Sis Elisa, Milo tin, opened & closed
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elisa28 Master	16-Dec-2020 11:33        elisa28 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks Sis, trying to open my tin cover more often. Hehehe. CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:31) Posted: Congrats, Sis Elisa, Milo tin, opened & closed. elisa28      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:43) Posted: This morning, Nanofilm, chicken run from 438 - 454. Counter party Philip.
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pepsico Member	16-Dec-2020 11:33        pepsico About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	bro kaserin, count me in too...... Thanks halleluyah      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 11:23) Posted: bro kazerin, pls count me in....kamsiah.... wavehunter      ( Date: 16-Dec-2020 10:53) Posted: I am IN !!!
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