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swv001 Member	13-Feb-2017 14:47        swv001 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is almost the best company in O& G.   I do not understand why its price is still lower than Ezra.. ticktock      ( Date: 13-Feb-2017 14:45) Posted: I think the bulls were able to push it up from .019 on the result expectation. Now need to wait for the next push, might even take a step back before it continues the climb.
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swv001 Member	13-Feb-2017 14:46        swv001 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is almost the best company in O& G.   I do not understand why its price is still lower than Ezra..
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ticktock Master	13-Feb-2017 14:45        ticktock About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I think the bulls were able to push it up from .019 on the result expectation. Now need to wait for the next push, might even take a step back before it continues the climb.
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churnw Elite	13-Feb-2017 14:36        churnw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Not much movement ... Today ....
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churnw Elite	13-Feb-2017 11:31        churnw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Very good result ...
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ticktock Master	13-Feb-2017 09:37        ticktock About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lets see if it can cross EZRA price today.
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Integrity Elite	13-Feb-2017 09:34        Integrity About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks good to fly once again
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ticktock Master	13-Feb-2017 09:30        ticktock About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No bed of roses but still making profit and solid order book that stretches until 2025. Better than companies that have debt levels higher than valuation and no profits in sight.
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RedEye1811 Master	13-Feb-2017 09:24        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My first glance at results I actually think better than what I expected but must read all fine print now...so not yet decided if good or bad, but does give some positives... moron101      ( Date: 13-Feb-2017 09:17) Posted: Result not bad. Load more..
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moron101 Supreme	13-Feb-2017 09:17        moron101 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Result not bad. Load more..
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Wind22i Supreme	10-Feb-2017 17:55        Wind22i About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Its parent is swiber...
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RedEye1811 Master	10-Feb-2017 17:10        RedEye1811 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Held up for majority of day at 2.3c...sadly did not close out strongly...buyer queue did not get much traction during afternoon...wonder if negative close bad omen for Monday...
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zandlery Supreme	10-Feb-2017 16:12        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry, just been realistic and not base my analysis on hope...... zandlery      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 16:10) Posted: if monday show otherwise it " should" go down? churnw      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 16:06) Posted: their result should be good ..... That why it go up...
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zandlery Supreme	10-Feb-2017 16:10        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if monday show otherwise it " should" go down? churnw      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 16:06) Posted: their result should be good ..... That why it go up...
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churnw Elite	10-Feb-2017 16:06        churnw About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	their result should be good ..... That why it go up...
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zandlery Supreme	10-Feb-2017 15:03        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I realise no concern needed as long vallianz don't wind up. In SGX can see more punter than investor. BB know how to lure sgx punter in to stir certain counter by pumping up abit on price and those punter will do the rest. I suspect this rise too could be the making from the BB. No news, and don't expect a exceptional well result coming....and mostly certainly privatisation out of the picture due to current market condition. Just curious at what price range they going to pull the plug......
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ticktock Master	10-Feb-2017 13:35        ticktock About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	My comment below was concerning the share price movement. As for your comments which even if considered to be true have been in existence for quite some time, the price drop to .1x level was due to Swiber event and concerns of this company sailing through in the near future, so if thats not happening(no immediate threats i.e.) the price will make an attempt to retest the level where it dropped from. sheerluck      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 13:20) Posted: I advise you study Vallianz " business model" and know what are expected of such model and if Vallianz performed accordingly.   A clue, consistent earning but inconsistent and cumulative negative operating cashflow. Valiianz debt will only go up since they are not generating positive cashflow.   They only managed to pay of the 2 notes by borrowing from SSH.   The only time they reduced debt (once) is when they sprung off a company loading it with asset and loads of debt.   This artifically reduce their gearing to meet loan convenents allowing them to borrow more.   Whether coincidence or not, Swiber loaded Vallianz with their vessels and loads of debt as well three years ago. You have to wait for half a year to get that Annual Report now. DYDD ticktock      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 13:04) Posted: I think so investors will buy more at the slightest hint of the company surviving through the choppy waters its been for some time now. There were concerns about this continuing to be a going concern and if the numbers address that concern and show a better picture going forward the next price level should be where Vallianz dropped off from after Swiber went into JM. I still feel that annual report will reflect profit for the full year(although lower) and reduced debt levels as 2 notes payments were paid out in full.
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sheerluck Supreme	10-Feb-2017 13:20        sheerluck About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Work for your money first then let your money work for you"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I advise you study Vallianz " business model" and know what are expected of such model and if Vallianz performed accordingly.   A clue, consistent earning but inconsistent and cumulative negative operating cashflow. Valiianz debt will only go up since they are not generating positive cashflow.   They only managed to pay of the 2 notes by borrowing from SSH.   The only time they reduced debt (once) is when they sprung off a company loading it with asset and loads of debt.   This artifically reduce their gearing to meet loan convenents allowing them to borrow more.   Whether coincidence or not, Swiber loaded Vallianz with their vessels and loads of debt as well three years ago. You have to wait for half a year to get that Annual Report now. DYDD ticktock      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 13:04) Posted: I think so investors will buy more at the slightest hint of the company surviving through the choppy waters its been for some time now. There were concerns about this continuing to be a going concern and if the numbers address that concern and show a better picture going forward the next price level should be where Vallianz dropped off from after Swiber went into JM. I still feel that annual report will reflect profit for the full year(although lower) and reduced debt levels as 2 notes payments were paid out in full.  sheerluck      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 11:24) Posted: Vallianz releasing resutls next Monday.   Things to look out for: 1. Is Vallianz still recognising revenue from Swiber?   if it still do so pls do a calculation to exclude it and see a more realistic picture of Valianz performance. 2. Check how the gross margin change if revenues from Swiber are excluded.   If there is a big drop, then all previous GP could have be " lifted" due to dealing with Swiber. 3. Then check if borrowing has increased and especially their working capital.   Most of the " engineering" could be hidden it this section. Lastly, pls bear in mind that FY push back to end March.   So mgmt can still report in what they (want you to) believe is " correct" until their external auditor check their account. Price moved up after Greatwill came in.   Coincidence? FY push back to end March with lame reason.   Things happening in the dark with no external check available until end March.   This action simply buy them time to do whatever them need.
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zandlery Supreme	10-Feb-2017 13:20        zandlery About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At this point of time no one will actually know from guessing.
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swv001 Member	10-Feb-2017 13:11        swv001 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Any chance that Swiber can be back as a going concern after debt restructuring?  sheerluck      ( Date: 10-Feb-2017 11:24) Posted: Vallianz releasing resutls next Monday.   Things to look out for: 1. Is Vallianz still recognising revenue from Swiber?   if it still do so pls do a calculation to exclude it and see a more realistic picture of Valianz performance. 2. Check how the gross margin change if revenues from Swiber are excluded.   If there is a big drop, then all previous GP could have be " lifted" due to dealing with Swiber. 3. Then check if borrowing has increased and especially their working capital.   Most of the " engineering" could be hidden it this section. Lastly, pls bear in mind that FY push back to end March.   So mgmt can still report in what they (want you to) believe is " correct" until their external auditor check their account. Price moved up after Greatwill came in.   Coincidence? FY push back to end March with lame reason.   Things happening in the dark with no external check available until end March.   This action simply buy them time to do whatever them need.
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