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Winnertakeall Elite	05-Jul-2022 18:29        Winnertakeall About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Today 1million share buyback at $0.40c Total acquisition to date : 14million shares
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uiop1223 Supreme	05-Jul-2022 18:19        uiop1223 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Got buyback at 40 cents SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 18:05) Posted: shortsell? 8 million? No buybacks as usual. Haven for shortsellers. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 18:05        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	shortsell? 8 million? No buybacks as usual. Haven for shortsellers. Trade with expectation and DYODD
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recon12recce Senior	05-Jul-2022 17:35        recon12recce About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Price at 8% dvd should be well supported, thats how it was played down. No adverse news. See no reason why it should fall below 39c. When dvd yields get juicier, it should attracts more buyers and thats where i open half my war chest few days ago. End 2023 thing will get more clearer. Lower risk i believed. Even if recession hit next year, coy will be well position for more correction fund investments and well poised for next leg recovery when the bulk DI matured this yr. The only thing is...must be able to stomach the price fluctuation and average down when need to😬 emailpeter      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 17:14) Posted: Hi @pasttime & @recon12recce, Can' t disagree w your comments, aptly said. Limited forward visibility of company, I will also value its downside at 3.5c DPS x 12.5 PER = 43c, a new way to value a nil support counter. Sit on its divs till we hear clearer prospects. We have endured a downside far greater than its upside. Testamount to an absence of any BB supporters. Will revisit this counter in 2 yrs time, or when solid fundamental data is announced, whichever comes first..... Happy investing to all...... No malice, merely vested.....   pasttime      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 16:30) Posted: hi emailpeer, greetings. as long as one holding in any counter is within a plan limit it is ok for the market to play the price. some up some down, generally about the same. when market moved up overall holding will be up. then i take some off the market to hold cash for next round. otherwise dividend will replenish the cash pile.  bear operators or bull operators i think they are generally both ways. when they buy and enounter real big house selling they will joined in the sell. otherwise also true. ie always in the directions of lease resistant. i as mickey mouse investors i will depend on dividend more. as that is sure win. share price will continue to be played up and down as the season changes. invest in good stock, collect dividend long long time when it is on sale. i think this is now on sale. as fed qt will requires their bankers to bring money back home. evident is usd index at all time high. next weej has 10 y and 30 y bond auction so there will be some pull of fund back home. once over money will flow out again. the cycle goes on . when fed qt stop.don' t say will not . who is to say $9t balance sheet is high or $6t is ok, all is in the perception and only if their bond auctions still has taken for their government to continue spending. sofar japanese saver to the rescue . oil shieks may be next. no money no talk.money is needed to spin their economy. the rest is show only
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FlyingCat Master	05-Jul-2022 17:23        FlyingCat About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	after market close threw extra 6.6mil down... abt 4 mil is one shot threw down.... ......... i think longist threw in the tower already.... hopefully can up from now..  Aeonfcuks      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 17:16) Posted: Hopeless shit. I shall see how low it can go, got balls go until 0 la SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 17:06) Posted: Last done 40. Finally, chance to buy below 40 tomorrow. Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.400 13,560.9 0.405 8,575.7 0.395 24,954 0.410 5,853.8 0.390 13,360 0.415 6,779.6 0.385 6,735.2 0.420 7,238 0.380 5,935.1 0.425 8,655 0.375 3,845.9 0.430 6,678.1 Trade with expectation and DYODD
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 17:21        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Powerful shortsellers. Aligned with BBs? Good job. Tomorrow can see 39? Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.395 24,466 0.400 1,378.3 0.390 13,355 0.405 6,764.4 0.385 6,735.2 0.410 5,273.6 0.380 5,920.1 0.415 6,665.5 0.375 3,845.9 0.420 7,150 0.370 1,283.3 0.425 8,204.9 0.365 694.7 0.430 6,178.1 Trade with manipulators and DYODD SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 17:06) Posted: Last done 40. Finally, chance to buy below 40 tomorrow. Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.400 13,560.9 0.405 8,575.7 0.395 24,954 0.410 5,853.8 0.390 13,360 0.415 6,779.6 0.385 6,735.2 0.420 7,238 0.380 5,935.1 0.425 8,655 0.375 3,845.9 0.430 6,678.1 Trade with expectation and DYODD
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Aeonfcuks Member	05-Jul-2022 17:16        Aeonfcuks About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hopeless shit. I shall see how low it can go, got balls go until 0 la SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 17:06) Posted: Last done 40. Finally, chance to buy below 40 tomorrow. Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.400 13,560.9 0.405 8,575.7 0.395 24,954 0.410 5,853.8 0.390 13,360 0.415 6,779.6 0.385 6,735.2 0.420 7,238 0.380 5,935.1 0.425 8,655 0.375 3,845.9 0.430 6,678.1 Trade with expectation and DYODD
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emailpeter Veteran	05-Jul-2022 17:14        emailpeter About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi @pasttime & @recon12recce, Can' t disagree w your comments, aptly said. Limited forward visibility of company, I will also value its downside at 3.5c DPS x 12.5 PER = 43c, a new way to value a nil support counter. Sit on its divs till we hear clearer prospects. We have endured a downside far greater than its upside. Testamount to an absence of any BB supporters. Will revisit this counter in 2 yrs time, or when solid fundamental data is announced, whichever comes first..... Happy investing to all...... No malice, merely vested.....   pasttime      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 16:30) Posted: hi emailpeer, greetings. as long as one holding in any counter is within a plan limit it is ok for the market to play the price. some up some down, generally about the same. when market moved up overall holding will be up. then i take some off the market to hold cash for next round. otherwise dividend will replenish the cash pile.  bear operators or bull operators i think they are generally both ways. when they buy and enounter real big house selling they will joined in the sell. otherwise also true. ie always in the directions of lease resistant. i as mickey mouse investors i will depend on dividend more. as that is sure win. share price will continue to be played up and down as the season changes. invest in good stock, collect dividend long long time when it is on sale. i think this is now on sale. as fed qt will requires their bankers to bring money back home. evident is usd index at all time high. next weej has 10 y and 30 y bond auction so there will be some pull of fund back home. once over money will flow out again. the cycle goes on . when fed qt stop.don' t say will not . who is to say $9t balance sheet is high or $6t is ok, all is in the perception and only if their bond auctions still has taken for their government to continue spending. sofar japanese saver to the rescue . oil shieks may be next. no money no talk.money is needed to spin their economy. the rest is show only. emailpeter      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 12:27) Posted: I share your same sentiment (both +ve and -ve). Inspite of all the eternal optimist here (backed with figures and fundamentals), I am losing some faith in this stock. Added the lopsided opinions only allowed to be absorbed here. And even the TA' s here are beginning to sound more logical.   I' m been vested for 4 yrs, with gradual accum at every level. Now hold 600 lots of FH. 345k shares bought back from the overseas SH sale, and accum another 255k shares. Degree of vestedness, I let you guys decide. So far, we wear a downside greater than its highest at 68c (midpoint about 53c), let alone any sky targets of 108c. Even a red/black roulette bet has a better odd....   As I see it, FH has been ravaged by SS' s and BB' s who are unloading. To me, these are normal and understandable events. What seems glaringly missing in this " stadium of big poker players" is the BB fryers. The SS syndicates are aplenty and strong, but why aren' t there any fryup syndicates ? Akin to Peter Lim, he made a killing on Wilmar. While he did SS the share to base, he also did his share of fryups to bring price up. He didn' t act alone, either as syndicate team, or other teams latched on. Why are there no subscribers to the fryups given the fundamentals (perceived anyway) are in such disparity ? I believe the answers to this has been covered by the " doomsayers" here....prob just chosen to be ignored....   Ren and gang do not care much about the share price. Why ought they ? They prob only see it 1x per month. We' d be darn worried if they were full time messing w stock playing against us, rather than growing the company well. A good steady chinaman who amases 9 years of accum profits, who further makes more from it thru FH. Owns 30% (ungeared fruits) but controls 100% fully at his discretion. He feels he created and owns it all. The only reason he will pay good divs is to compensate his 10% staff pool, and keep us investors from (barely) running away.... If he gets fedup with the lack of support (they are obviously trying to address this), he might even work to benefit himself more, be it against our goals....   My opinion only, no malice or hurt intended, no ulterior motive other than seeking constructive answers, be it good or bad....
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 17:06        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Last done 40. Finally, chance to buy below 40 tomorrow. Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.400 13,560.9 0.405 8,575.7 0.395 24,954 0.410 5,853.8 0.390 13,360 0.415 6,779.6 0.385 6,735.2 0.420 7,238 0.380 5,935.1 0.425 8,655 0.375 3,845.9 0.430 6,678.1 Trade with expectation and DYODD
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 16:58        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.400 18,031 0.405 3,536.5 0.395 19,547 0.410 7,145.1 0.390 13,194 0.415 9,055.8 0.385 6,741.2 0.420 7,270.8 0.380 5,935 0.425 8,700.2 0.375 3,845.8 0.430 6,683.1 Trade with awareness no contra buy and DYODD
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recon12recce Senior	05-Jul-2022 16:48        recon12recce About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Old news. Targeted 8 to 10% ROE. Announced 40% dividends of npat. A shift of business structure from DI (effective 10% int.) from currently 75% of AUM to 50% by end dec22. 500m each to be invested in fund and investment projects by 1H 22. 630m conversed as cash for future use. Assuming 8% of ROE, ard 340m (last year npat 327m). Ard 3.3c or close to 8% dvd on current price. Almost close to last bottom 39c. Aside from all uncertainty (recession etc), i believe limited downside going forward unless fundamentally change occurs. No?
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pasttime Supreme	05-Jul-2022 16:30        pasttime About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "gold silver are real money. not others iou."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	hi emailpeer, greetings. as long as one holding in any counter is within a plan limit it is ok for the market to play the price. some up some down, generally about the same. when market moved up overall holding will be up. then i take some off the market to hold cash for next round. otherwise dividend will replenish the cash pile.  bear operators or bull operators i think they are generally both ways. when they buy and enounter real big house selling they will joined in the sell. otherwise also true. ie always in the directions of lease resistant. i as mickey mouse investors i will depend on dividend more. as that is sure win. share price will continue to be played up and down as the season changes. invest in good stock, collect dividend long long time when it is on sale. i think this is now on sale. as fed qt will requires their bankers to bring money back home. evident is usd index at all time high. next weej has 10 y and 30 y bond auction so there will be some pull of fund back home. once over money will flow out again. the cycle goes on . when fed qt stop.don' t say will not . who is to say $9t balance sheet is high or $6t is ok, all is in the perception and only if their bond auctions still has taken for their government to continue spending. sofar japanese saver to the rescue . oil shieks may be next. no money no talk.money is needed to spin their economy. the rest is show only. emailpeter      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 12:27) Posted: I share your same sentiment (both +ve and -ve). Inspite of all the eternal optimist here (backed with figures and fundamentals), I am losing some faith in this stock. Added the lopsided opinions only allowed to be absorbed here. And even the TA' s here are beginning to sound more logical.   I' m been vested for 4 yrs, with gradual accum at every level. Now hold 600 lots of FH. 345k shares bought back from the overseas SH sale, and accum another 255k shares. Degree of vestedness, I let you guys decide. So far, we wear a downside greater than its highest at 68c (midpoint about 53c), let alone any sky targets of 108c. Even a red/black roulette bet has a better odd....   As I see it, FH has been ravaged by SS' s and BB' s who are unloading. To me, these are normal and understandable events. What seems glaringly missing in this " stadium of big poker players" is the BB fryers. The SS syndicates are aplenty and strong, but why aren' t there any fryup syndicates ? Akin to Peter Lim, he made a killing on Wilmar. While he did SS the share to base, he also did his share of fryups to bring price up. He didn' t act alone, either as syndicate team, or other teams latched on. Why are there no subscribers to the fryups given the fundamentals (perceived anyway) are in such disparity ? I believe the answers to this has been covered by the " doomsayers" here....prob just chosen to be ignored....   Ren and gang do not care much about the share price. Why ought they ? They prob only see it 1x per month. We' d be darn worried if they were full time messing w stock playing against us, rather than growing the company well. A good steady chinaman who amases 9 years of accum profits, who further makes more from it thru FH. Owns 30% (ungeared fruits) but controls 100% fully at his discretion. He feels he created and owns it all. The only reason he will pay good divs is to compensate his 10% staff pool, and keep us investors from (barely) running away.... If he gets fedup with the lack of support (they are obviously trying to address this), he might even work to benefit himself more, be it against our goals....   My opinion only, no malice or hurt intended, no ulterior motive other than seeking constructive answers, be it good or bad.... pasttime      ( Date: 04-Jul-2022 22:55) Posted: i also  think that this yzjfh is a potential multi bagger. what discount to asset is right depends on what is the asset and what the asset is producing or will produced. like a $1.08 or more cash i will say maybe 80% of it as why will i want to put mu=y money into cash in someone pocket. but then there is a gain so 30% discount.  real estate will need more discount as they not so liquid. but if they said cash and going to put into high growth of 18% or more a year then there amy not be any discount but premium to asset. so more important on what the asset will produced. now is a bit uncertain as no financial report, no results or any major return. only invest . so far it is some picture being shown of what they want to do, done what they said they want to do. so far so good can walk the talk. the real run in price will come when the walk produce return. expect first test aug. some movement. real up will be as they annouce good investment with return or that return can be estimated. dyodd
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baybefaze Senior	05-Jul-2022 15:51        baybefaze About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Be very careful with naysayers who talk alot. Wise saying Empty vessels make the MOST noise.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 15:16        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Your views very similar to doomsayer but are you sure that things will go your way especially YZJFH? Many US stocks went up last week after hitting bottom. US may avoid recession. No one can predict accurately what will happen. Trade with awareness and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 14:49) Posted: Just leave it alone for next couple of months. It is a bear market so no point staring at it.  SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 14:46) Posted: I believe this one can make money if get at right price. What goes down must go up unless it's not making money. SBB haven't found the right time and price? They need this for some purpose? Next month expect to see upside? Trade with investment and DYODD
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tpohwashere Veteran	05-Jul-2022 14:49        tpohwashere About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just leave it alone for next couple of months. It is a bear market so no point staring at it.  SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 14:46) Posted: I believe this one can make money if get at right price. What goes down must go up unless it's not making money. SBB haven't found the right time and price? They need this for some purpose? Next month expect to see upside? Trade with investment and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 14:08) Posted: Aiyo .... only in your world does everyone have an agenda.   And I have been consistent in my view even when I owned a sizeable chunk of FH. No bro, I didn' t short this ... it is much cheaper to short fat pigs like ARKK
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 14:46        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	I believe this one can make money if get at right price. What goes down must go up unless it's not making money. SBB haven't found the right time and price? They need this for some purpose? Next month expect to see upside? Trade with investment and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 14:08) Posted: Aiyo .... only in your world does everyone have an agenda.   And I have been consistent in my view even when I owned a sizeable chunk of FH. No bro, I didn' t short this ... it is much cheaper to short fat pigs like ARKK. SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:41) Posted: Guess you shorted this one. That's why need to talk down to maximise your gain, right? Trade with shortsellers and DYODD
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tpohwashere Veteran	05-Jul-2022 14:08        tpohwashere About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Aiyo .... only in your world does everyone have an agenda.   And I have been consistent in my view even when I owned a sizeable chunk of FH. No bro, I didn' t short this ... it is much cheaper to short fat pigs like ARKK. SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:41) Posted: Guess you shorted this one. That's why need to talk down to maximise your gain, right? Trade with shortsellers and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:30) Posted: I wouldn' t have dumped it if I wanted this stock.  ' There are plenty of other ways to make money in a bear market.
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 13:58        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Strong buying below 40. Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K) 0.405 7,989.3 0.410 5,146.4 0.400 16,322.8 0.415 9,544.4 0.395 18,922.3 0.420 7,298.1 0.390 12,697.7 0.425 8,380.5 0.385 6,321 0.430 6,753.1 0.380 5,484.8 0.435 6,053.9 0.375 3,560.7 0.440 5,537.5 0.370 783.2 0.445 2,930.4 0.365 194.6 0.450 2,532.7 Trade with support and DYODD
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SAVIORFOREVER Supreme	05-Jul-2022 13:41        SAVIORFOREVER About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Guess you shorted this one. That's why need to talk down to maximise your gain, right? Trade with shortsellers and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:30) Posted: I wouldn' t have dumped it if I wanted this stock.  ' There are plenty of other ways to make money in a bear market.  SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:21) Posted: I think you wanted to buy but below 40, right? Trade with awareness and DYODD
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tpohwashere Veteran	05-Jul-2022 13:33        tpohwashere About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Does the share price affect the company' s day to day operations?   No. So why should they interfere?   Only incompetent management like Nanotech tried to interfere with media interviews, huge SBB, etc and it got far worse. SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 13:08) Posted: Why you bother about YZJFH since you're not holding any shares? This one daily shortselling and management don't even bother to take action. Sometimes ppl start to wonder why? Trade with manipulators and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 05-Jul-2022 12:26) Posted: Alamak ... the market does not revolve around short sellers. There are many reasons why a stock goes up or down including negative sentiments about the economy.
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