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Owl793 Member	04-Nov-2016 11:19        Owl793 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I guess Yeo Hiap Seng Ltd itself may be the next takeover target. YHS made $138m profit from selling its11.69% shares in Super Group  which is really a small change to Far East Group. This means FE is not interested in keeping F& B businesses. If ever YHS is up for sale then PepsiCo has right of 1st refusal. PepsiCo awarded the bottling contract to YHS on this condition.
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sengsk Elite	04-Nov-2016 11:19        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If this $1.30 offer can approve, I believe those main big fish could have some other under-table benefits sweet sweet . Need to monitor closely.
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Benjamin_29 Member	04-Nov-2016 10:14        Benjamin_29 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This gem is definitely worth more than $1.3 in the long term. Dutch company is buying (at a steep discount of course) into Super' s and Owl' s branding, distribution networks, supply chain, as well as strong knowhow in manufacturing instant coffee and various other non-dairy creamer.  Therefore, it beats me why founder and other major shareholders think that their company is worth only $1.3. This is a good growth company with continuous innovation and a resilient business model. Given more time, it should be worth at least $1.8. Now that 60% has sold (including founder), wonder how will Super fare in the coming months towards May next year.
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sengsk Elite	04-Nov-2016 08:51        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	If I' m not wrong, I still remember few years back this Super during the price before bonus issue where it range $4 to $5 There are rumours flying round some Big Co. interest on Super. Hopefully, the take over price could topping up !
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altroboy Member	03-Nov-2016 22:36        altroboy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thank you, Owl793 and jeremyow, for your explanations. So am I correct to say given the 60% irrevocable pledge from SSH, the condition of " Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group" is already met, and Sapphire MUST buy from any seller who is willing to sell at $1.30. The 90% is just a threshold for it to force buyout any remaining shares from shareholders who might want to hold on. In other words the 2 US funds holding 13% can only remain as shareholders at most, and cannot play any part in preventing the $1.30 share exchange from willing sellers? Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:10) Posted: wi1) 60% of shares is already done deal. It' s irrevocable, meaning the seller cannot back out. 2) Pre-condition is approval by relevant  authority, anti-trust body etc which will not be a problem for coffee makers, unless they are making missile or B2 bombers. 3) If the buyer can garner 90% shares (incl. the 60% done deal) it will be delisted. If e.g. they only get 87% at the end closing in May 2017, then Super Group will continue to be listed with a major shareholder (Jacob) holding 87%. 4) $1.26 closing vs $1.30 may be explained by retailers cashing out & getting cash in hand now vs later on. 5) There are 2 big US funds holding 13% which have not be reported. Their invested cost  was higher than $1.30. What they will do we don' t know yet.           altroboy      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 19:16) Posted: Hi fellow investors, would anyone be kind enough to educate me on these abstracts from the news?  " ..Sapphire has made a pre-conditional offer to acquire all the issued shares of Super Group, supported by irrevocable commitments received from shareholders representing 60% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares to tender their shares in the offer. This includes an irrevocable commitment from YHS Investment, holding 11.69% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares, whose undertaking to accept is subject to approval of its shareholders." " ...  The commencement of the offer is subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. The offer will be conditional upon Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares being tendered in acceptance of the offer. If Sapphire acquires 90% of the issued shares pursuant to the offer, Sapphire intends to exercise its right to compulsorily acquire the remaining shares and privatise Super Group." From what I understand from the above (without much working knowledge of how the approval works), this would mean that Sapphire will offer the price of $1.30 once at least 50% of the shareholders accept the offer at $1.30 Sapphire. Since 60% of the shareholders (presumably institutional shareholders) already pledged to tender their shares at the offered price, why is there still a gap in the price today? Can anyone kindly point out things which I might be missing, and other potential risks?  http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161102006904/en/Jacobs-Douwe-Egberts-Pre-Conditional-Offer-Super-Group Thank you! Hope to learn from this community (=
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ecekca Elite	03-Nov-2016 21:24        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	super = singapore now super = unknown...its the branding... jeremyow      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 21:14) Posted: There are still some gems in our Singapore stock exchange either as potential take over or delisting targets abeit the numbers are declining as one by one interesting and good ones are taken off the market. Just need to be observant to discover the gems. Haha!   ecekca      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 21:07) Posted: Sad for Singapore market, more and more good and interesting companies are taken over and in the future, will left penny stocks still listing in SGX
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jeremyow Master	03-Nov-2016 21:14        jeremyow About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Passionate business investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There are still some gems in our Singapore stock exchange either as potential take over or delisting targets abeit the numbers are declining as one by one interesting and good ones are taken off the market. Just need to be observant to discover the gems. Haha!   ecekca      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 21:07) Posted: Sad for Singapore market, more and more good and interesting companies are taken over and in the future, will left penny stocks still listing in SGX   jeremyow      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:54) Posted: Sorry. Typo errors in my previous post. The higher the uncertainty whether the take over deal will go through, the higher the difference in market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, the substiantial shareholders (SSH)   have irrevocably committed their shares which total up to 60% of the total issued outstanding shares to be tendered to the offeror, so there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30. Note that this is not a hostile take over by offeror, so the chance of take over deal going through is high as there is generally high support for the take over unless another contender comes into the picture to counter offer at higher price which maybe unlikely as the value of the deal is more than $1 billion.
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ecekca Elite	03-Nov-2016 21:07        ecekca About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sad for Singapore market, more and more good and interesting companies are taken over and in the future, will left penny stocks still listing in SGX   jeremyow      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:54) Posted: Sorry. Typo errors in my previous post. The higher the uncertainty whether the take over deal will go through, the higher the difference in market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, the substiantial shareholders (SSH)   have irrevocably committed their shares which total up to 60% of the total issued outstanding shares to be tendered to the offeror, so there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30. Note that this is not a hostile take over by offeror, so the chance of take over deal going through is high as there is generally high support for the take over unless another contender comes into the picture to counter offer at higher price which maybe unlikely as the value of the deal is more than $1 billion.   jeremyow      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:41) Posted: Some retail and other institutional investors that does not have high amount of holdings want to cash out early to avoid uncertainty whether the take over will eventually go through, so there is a price differential such that the closing share price of $1.26 is lower than offer price of $1.30 per share. The higher the uncertainty that the take over deal will not go through, the higher the difference in the market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, since 60% of the substianal shareholders (SSH) have irrevocably committed their shares to be tendered to the offeror, there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30.
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jeremyow Master	03-Nov-2016 20:54        jeremyow About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Passionate business investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sorry. Typo errors in my previous post. The higher the uncertainty whether the take over deal will go through, the higher the difference in market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, the substiantial shareholders (SSH)   have irrevocably committed their shares which total up to 60% of the total issued outstanding shares to be tendered to the offeror, so there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30. Note that this is not a hostile take over by offeror, so the chance of take over deal going through is high as there is generally high support for the take over unless another contender comes into the picture to counter offer at higher price which maybe unlikely as the value of the deal is more than $1 billion.   jeremyow      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:41) Posted: Some retail and other institutional investors that does not have high amount of holdings want to cash out early to avoid uncertainty whether the take over will eventually go through, so there is a price differential such that the closing share price of $1.26 is lower than offer price of $1.30 per share. The higher the uncertainty that the take over deal will not go through, the higher the difference in the market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, since 60% of the substianal shareholders (SSH) have irrevocably committed their shares to be tendered to the offeror, there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30.   Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:10) Posted: wi1) 60% of shares is already done deal. It' s irrevocable, meaning the seller cannot back out. 2) Pre-condition is approval by relevant  authority, anti-trust body etc which will not be a problem for coffee makers, unless they are making missile or B2 bombers. 3) If the buyer can garner 90% shares (incl. the 60% done deal) it will be delisted. If e.g. they only get 87% at the end closing in May 2017, then Super Group will continue to be listed with a major shareholder (Jacob) holding 87%. 4) $1.26 closing vs $1.30 may be explained by retailers cashing out & getting cash in hand now vs later on. 5) There are 2 big US funds holding 13% which have not be reported. Their invested cost  was higher than $1.30. What they will do we don' t know yet.
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jeremyow Master	03-Nov-2016 20:41        jeremyow About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Passionate business investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some retail and other institutional investors that does not have high amount of holdings want to cash out early to avoid uncertainty whether the take over will eventually go through, so there is a price differential such that the closing share price of $1.26 is lower than offer price of $1.30 per share. The higher the uncertainty that the take over deal will not go through, the higher the difference in the market traded price vs take over offer price. For Super Group, since 60% of the substianal shareholders (SSH) have irrevocably committed their shares to be tendered to the offeror, there is a high chance that the deal will go through eventually, so the market traded price of $1.26 is near to the offer price of $1.30.   Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:10) Posted: wi1) 60% of shares is already done deal. It' s irrevocable, meaning the seller cannot back out. 2) Pre-condition is approval by relevant  authority, anti-trust body etc which will not be a problem for coffee makers, unless they are making missile or B2 bombers. 3) If the buyer can garner 90% shares (incl. the 60% done deal) it will be delisted. If e.g. they only get 87% at the end closing in May 2017, then Super Group will continue to be listed with a major shareholder (Jacob) holding 87%. 4) $1.26 closing vs $1.30 may be explained by retailers cashing out & getting cash in hand now vs later on. 5) There are 2 big US funds holding 13% which have not be reported. Their invested cost  was higher than $1.30. What they will do we don' t know yet.           altroboy      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 19:16) Posted: Hi fellow investors, would anyone be kind enough to educate me on these abstracts from the news?  " ..Sapphire has made a pre-conditional offer to acquire all the issued shares of Super Group, supported by irrevocable commitments received from shareholders representing 60% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares to tender their shares in the offer. This includes an irrevocable commitment from YHS Investment, holding 11.69% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares, whose undertaking to accept is subject to approval of its shareholders." " ...  The commencement of the offer is subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. The offer will be conditional upon Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares being tendered in acceptance of the offer. If Sapphire acquires 90% of the issued shares pursuant to the offer, Sapphire intends to exercise its right to compulsorily acquire the remaining shares and privatise Super Group." From what I understand from the above (without much working knowledge of how the approval works), this would mean that Sapphire will offer the price of $1.30 once at least 50% of the shareholders accept the offer at $1.30 Sapphire. Since 60% of the shareholders (presumably institutional shareholders) already pledged to tender their shares at the offered price, why is there still a gap in the price today? Can anyone kindly point out things which I might be missing, and other potential risks?  http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161102006904/en/Jacobs-Douwe-Egberts-Pre-Conditional-Offer-Super-Group Thank you! Hope to learn from this community (=
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MichaelSchenker Master	03-Nov-2016 20:32        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks like it' s gonna be at least 6 months before we can see our money. Yup, you may be right, those who did not want to wait would probably sold off now, and that could explain the 4 or 5 cents ' premium' . So, is it worthwhile to wait 6 months for 5 cents? If I did my maths correctly, that should be about 8% p.a. Of course that is not without risk. Just my 2 cents Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 20:10) Posted: wi1) 60% of shares is already done deal. It' s irrevocable, meaning the seller cannot back out. 2) Pre-condition is approval by relevant  authority, anti-trust body etc which will not be a problem for coffee makers, unless they are making missile or B2 bombers. 3) If the buyer can garner 90% shares (incl. the 60% done deal) it will be delisted. If e.g. they only get 87% at the end closing in May 2017, then Super Group will continue to be listed with a major shareholder (Jacob) holding 87%. 4) $1.26 closing vs $1.30 may be explained by retailers cashing out & getting cash in hand now vs later on. 5) There are 2 big US funds holding 13% which have not be reported. Their invested cost  was higher than $1.30. What they will do we don' t know yet.           altroboy      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 19:16) Posted: Hi fellow investors, would anyone be kind enough to educate me on these abstracts from the news?  " ..Sapphire has made a pre-conditional offer to acquire all the issued shares of Super Group, supported by irrevocable commitments received from shareholders representing 60% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares to tender their shares in the offer. This includes an irrevocable commitment from YHS Investment, holding 11.69% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares, whose undertaking to accept is subject to approval of its shareholders." " ...  The commencement of the offer is subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. The offer will be conditional upon Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares being tendered in acceptance of the offer. If Sapphire acquires 90% of the issued shares pursuant to the offer, Sapphire intends to exercise its right to compulsorily acquire the remaining shares and privatise Super Group." From what I understand from the above (without much working knowledge of how the approval works), this would mean that Sapphire will offer the price of $1.30 once at least 50% of the shareholders accept the offer at $1.30 Sapphire. Since 60% of the shareholders (presumably institutional shareholders) already pledged to tender their shares at the offered price, why is there still a gap in the price today? Can anyone kindly point out things which I might be missing, and other potential risks?  http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161102006904/en/Jacobs-Douwe-Egberts-Pre-Conditional-Offer-Super-Group Thank you! Hope to learn from this community (=
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Owl793 Member	03-Nov-2016 20:10        Owl793 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wi1) 60% of shares is already done deal. It' s irrevocable, meaning the seller cannot back out. 2) Pre-condition is approval by relevant  authority, anti-trust body etc which will not be a problem for coffee makers, unless they are making missile or B2 bombers. 3) If the buyer can garner 90% shares (incl. the 60% done deal) it will be delisted. If e.g. they only get 87% at the end closing in May 2017, then Super Group will continue to be listed with a major shareholder (Jacob) holding 87%. 4) $1.26 closing vs $1.30 may be explained by retailers cashing out & getting cash in hand now vs later on. 5) There are 2 big US funds holding 13% which have not be reported. Their invested cost  was higher than $1.30. What they will do we don' t know yet.           altroboy      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 19:16) Posted: Hi fellow investors, would anyone be kind enough to educate me on these abstracts from the news?  " ..Sapphire has made a pre-conditional offer to acquire all the issued shares of Super Group, supported by irrevocable commitments received from shareholders representing 60% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares to tender their shares in the offer. This includes an irrevocable commitment from YHS Investment, holding 11.69% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares, whose undertaking to accept is subject to approval of its shareholders." " ...  The commencement of the offer is subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. The offer will be conditional upon Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares being tendered in acceptance of the offer. If Sapphire acquires 90% of the issued shares pursuant to the offer, Sapphire intends to exercise its right to compulsorily acquire the remaining shares and privatise Super Group." From what I understand from the above (without much working knowledge of how the approval works), this would mean that Sapphire will offer the price of $1.30 once at least 50% of the shareholders accept the offer at $1.30 Sapphire. Since 60% of the shareholders (presumably institutional shareholders) already pledged to tender their shares at the offered price, why is there still a gap in the price today? Can anyone kindly point out things which I might be missing, and other potential risks?  http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161102006904/en/Jacobs-Douwe-Egberts-Pre-Conditional-Offer-Super-Group Thank you! Hope to learn from this community (=
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Greatman Senior	03-Nov-2016 19:44        Greatman About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Be water my friend"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	5 october substantial buyers should be investigated by SGX... Time and time again all these insider trading, thats what kills investor confidence in singapore markets. For now, lets enjoy the fruits of the BBs labour  Greatman      ( Date: 02-Nov-2016 07:06) Posted: Bro, you forgot to take medicine? quick ratio > 1 u want rights issue for what? Takeover greece ah Given the strength of buying before the halt, most probably some ppl got inside info go and buy early Stocky901      ( Date: 01-Nov-2016 11:08) Posted: Don't rule out possibility of Rights issuing..
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altroboy Member	03-Nov-2016 19:16        altroboy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi fellow investors, would anyone be kind enough to educate me on these abstracts from the news?  " ..Sapphire has made a pre-conditional offer to acquire all the issued shares of Super Group, supported by irrevocable commitments received from shareholders representing 60% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares to tender their shares in the offer. This includes an irrevocable commitment from YHS Investment, holding 11.69% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares, whose undertaking to accept is subject to approval of its shareholders." " ...  The commencement of the offer is subject to the receipt of regulatory approvals. The offer will be conditional upon Sapphire receiving more than 50% of Super Group&rsquo s issued shares being tendered in acceptance of the offer. If Sapphire acquires 90% of the issued shares pursuant to the offer, Sapphire intends to exercise its right to compulsorily acquire the remaining shares and privatise Super Group." From what I understand from the above (without much working knowledge of how the approval works), this would mean that Sapphire will offer the price of $1.30 once at least 50% of the shareholders accept the offer at $1.30 Sapphire. Since 60% of the shareholders (presumably institutional shareholders) already pledged to tender their shares at the offered price, why is there still a gap in the price today? Can anyone kindly point out things which I might be missing, and other potential risks?  http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161102006904/en/Jacobs-Douwe-Egberts-Pre-Conditional-Offer-Super-Group Thank you! Hope to learn from this community (=
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sengsk Elite	03-Nov-2016 14:38        sengsk About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Should not be $5 cos it ever bonus issue 1 for 1. Correct price should be $2.50 ysh2006      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 14:02) Posted: Hope you are correct many investor buy at $1.48 last years...have not run..also Kim Eng Sec three years ago said target price $5.00 back than... Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 11:19) Posted: Fund Managers rejected this offer price of $1.30 - both Capital Group & Matthews International holding about 13%. If trading resume & price go > $1.30 then Jacobs may raise offer higher.
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ysh2006 Supreme	03-Nov-2016 14:02        ysh2006 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hope you are correct many investor buy at $1.48 last years...have not run..also Kim Eng Sec three years ago said target price $5.00 back than... Owl793      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 11:19) Posted: Fund Managers rejected this offer price of $1.30 - both Capital Group & Matthews International holding about 13%. If trading resume & price go > $1.30 then Jacobs may raise offer higher.
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haizzz Senior	03-Nov-2016 13:25        haizzz About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Goi started buying huge weeks ago...like that also can..:(
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Secret_Squirrel Elite	03-Nov-2016 13:22        Secret_Squirrel About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Stay curious but skeptical"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There are too many brands of 3 in 1 coffee in the market. Just go to Giant or NTUC, you will be shock to see the number of brands on display. MichaelSchenker      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 13:05) Posted: Don' t need to wait, just go and buy some more. Although no more meat, but at least still got something to eat. Today' s market cannot be too picky. Market bull run unlikely to happen, so if there is some money to be made, just go for it.
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MichaelSchenker Master	03-Nov-2016 13:05        MichaelSchenker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t need to wait, just go and buy some more. Although no more meat, but at least still got something to eat. Today' s market cannot be too picky. Market bull run unlikely to happen, so if there is some money to be made, just go for it.
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ronleech Elite	03-Nov-2016 12:53        ronleech About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood: Yells: "Believe in yourself. Ride with the waves......"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wait for deal to fail and reenter lor sengsk      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 11:51) Posted: I predict no $1.95 this gem may not easily give way. ronleech      ( Date: 03-Nov-2016 11:46) Posted: sure bo?
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