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YZJFH - potentially rewarding

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02-Dec-2022 18:14     
 
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 Alert Admin 		So far continue 23 trading days without company's share buy back.
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02-Dec-2022 17:38     
 
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 Alert Admin 		May i know where you heard it from..will be great if there is an update..late is better than none 😝

MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 02-Dec-2022 17:07) Posted:

Heard that the 3Q22 business update may be out over the weekend. Perhaps that' s why there have been no SBBs for quite some time. Along with the 3 news pieces over the past few weeks which likely prevented SBBs. 

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02-Dec-2022 17:07     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Heard that the 3Q22 business update may be out over the weekend. Perhaps that' s why there have been no SBBs for quite some time. Along with the 3 news pieces over the past few weeks which likely prevented SBBs. 
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30-Nov-2022 18:56     
 
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 Alert Admin 		SSB halt for a month pending big announcement in Dec. Be patient and wait, YZJFH heavily penalised by market for not going the IPO route and by now old Ren must realised that. Don matter if there is share buyback or positive development, market makers like hedge fund just wanna punish the stock price and hither YZJFH ability to setup GP/LP fund.
With stock price so low, confidence in YZJFH also low and more difficult for investors to justify investing in YZJFH product.
Only way is either YZJFH got a big cornerstone investors like temasek to support it or delist and become private company.
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30-Nov-2022 00:45     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Ha ha .... my view is really no better than the views of many of the bro here such as @soeteno, @pasttime .... etc. We retail investors are at the lowest level of the chain and could only be price takers. These ultra big sellers are likely the band of hedge funds who could Long/Short in a big way together and are operating at a level even higher than the main street financial instituations such as funds and asset managers who are only doing Long and fragmentedly on their own accord.  So regardless their intentions on this persistent yet seemingly " calibrated" price suppression act, which must definitely be for some ultimate huge profit objectives, we just have to bear the blunts until they are done ...   

MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 16:59) Posted:

Would love to hear your views and any speculation on who could possibly be suppressing the price and a possible rationale for doing so, Sir @Volvo125

volvo125      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 09:59) Posted:

A very obvious act of price suppression just happened again. Early morning gap opened up 0.35, and shortly after a huge 9.8m selldown at one go to break the 0.345 support and forced the trading range down back to 0.34/0.345.


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29-Nov-2022 22:59     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Yes buy some good China counters, not all China counters as they are heavily information dependent.

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Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 22:49) Posted:

hope you are right.    I have some YZJ for info, but bought at low price.
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29-Nov-2022 22:49     
 
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 Alert Admin 		hope you are right.    I have some YZJ for info, but bought at low price.
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29-Nov-2022 22:19     
 
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 Alert Admin 		I don't think so. China will lead the world economy as western economy is overly stretched due to over printing of money.

Buy good China counters, with current low price. Dyodd.

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 22:13) Posted:

I have come across some of Xi' s speeches to the Communist party - they are delusional, filled with untruths. I don' t how such a country can continue on with one part capitalist and the ruling government totally disengaged from the ground sentiment.  During Mao' s time, people rallied behind the communist party because of the hardship under the Japanese occupation and foreign abuses in China.  Xi does not have the same kind of support Mao had - sooner or later this will play out either in Xi stepping down or a blood trail and the great leap forward repeated. 

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29-Nov-2022 22:15     
 
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 Alert Admin 		You should try to get hold of Xi' s internal (not external) statements, those made to the Communist party.  You will be totally shocked, guaranteed.   

ss2017.      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 22:11) Posted:

You worry too much, read his latest APEC statement to know him more, China keeps open up. Information can be found in Google.

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 22:01) Posted:

Those who do history or are old enough to remember the days when Mao' s policies turned China backward several decades by his great leap forward.  that' s the potential Xi can do to China.  Sometimes history has a way of repeating itself. 


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 Alert Admin 		I have come across some of Xi' s speeches to the Communist party - they are delusional, filled with untruths. I don' t how such a country can continue on with one part capitalist and the ruling government totally disengaged from the ground sentiment.  During Mao' s time, people rallied behind the communist party because of the hardship under the Japanese occupation and foreign abuses in China.  Xi does not have the same kind of support Mao had - sooner or later this will play out either in Xi stepping down or a blood trail and the great leap forward repeated. 
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 Alert Admin 		You worry too much, read his latest APEC statement to know him more, China keeps open up. Information can be found in Google.

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 22:01) Posted:

Those who do history or are old enough to remember the days when Mao' s policies turned China backward several decades by his great leap forward.  that' s the potential Xi can do to China.  Sometimes history has a way of repeating itself. 

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29-Nov-2022 22:01     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Those who do history or are old enough to remember the days when Mao' s policies turned China backward several decades by his great leap forward.  that' s the potential Xi can do to China.  Sometimes history has a way of repeating itself. 
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29-Nov-2022 21:58     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Try google Gravitas.    It' s Indian run media, so not West inspired as Indians play US agst Russia, they are non-aligned.    So the news are not tainted with Western political agendas.    they produce news releases every day, very good stuff.    I followed their reports on Ukraine. as you know India didn' t give support to Ukraine, were quite vocal about the West involvement in Ukraine by arms supply.  In the early days the indian media kept on insisting the West should just leave Ukraine to be occupied by Russia - that' s their attitude. But the media reported accurately what' s happening on the ground. 
I also followed George Yeo (our BG and ex minister) too - very closely. He has his views, and quite nice analyses. But he avoided the communist agenda altogether which worries the West always.  So in a way, I now see his views but new developments have taken place to raise some alarm that China is Xi and Xi represents China.  If so, it' s no longer a collective order but a personality cult just like the old Mao.     

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 21:35) Posted:

Maybe it may happen, regardless of what west do.  I saw a news report by Indian media, showing what is happening in different parts of China, the people are very vocal. This is not an isolated display of displeasure - Xi has brought about economic misery to the lives of many mainlanders - the protests are real and it took 10 deaths to ignite it. I think its Wuhan or one of the smaller cities where people shouted for Xi to step down. Think the media is Wion or something - they do a lot of reporting on Ukraine - very good stuff they reported. 

ss2017.      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 21:27) Posted:

Hope you can read Chinese. Western medias want HK 2019 riot replay, an evil move.


https://youtu.be/FsnLw4OjlR
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29-Nov-2022 21:35     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Maybe it may happen, regardless of what west do.  I saw a news report by Indian media, showing what is happening in different parts of China, the people are very vocal. This is not an isolated display of displeasure - Xi has brought about economic misery to the lives of many mainlanders - the protests are real and it took 10 deaths to ignite it. I think its Wuhan or one of the smaller cities where people shouted for Xi to step down. Think the media is Wion or something - they do a lot of reporting on Ukraine - very good stuff they reported. 

ss2017.      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 21:27) Posted:

Hope you can read Chinese. Western medias want HK 2019 riot replay, an evil move.


https://youtu.be/FsnLw4OjlRI

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 21:22) Posted:

It would be good if YZJ is more transparent about their assets. Skeptics will simply write off the stock if not much information is given on their investments.    Moreover profits for past 3 years are not really fantastic, infact have declined year on year.    I think that' s the main issue with this stock. The other issue is the flight of key shareholder- what is the reason?  These are the reasons I can think of.
The light at the end of the tunnel could be some shift in Chinese government' s strict covid rules, it looks like the mass white paper protests may likely bring an end to the foolhardy move to control the spread of an uncontrollable agent. Next thing we may see mass opposition in the form of strikes. USSR was brought down by strikes. Xi' s position looks precarious.
 


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29-Nov-2022 21:28     
 
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 Alert Admin 		There are two ways it can turn. With easing of covid, markets go up, YZJ will piggy back on the upward trend. We may see prices shift towards the goal everyone looks at.  The other is profit performance of YZJ.    If their investments are in property there could be some dampening, I don' t know, profits may not be good. So there are a few factors that can shape the price movements in next few months.    I think those who got in low, worthwhile to keep and wait for rise in price. YZJ people are also quite smart and know how to move their money around.    The optimists will see a better China tomorrow, the pessimists will think China is gone as long as Xi is around. 
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 Alert Admin 		Hope you can read Chinese. Western medias want HK 2019 riot replay, an evil move.


https://youtu.be/FsnLw4OjlRI

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 21:22) Posted:

It would be good if YZJ is more transparent about their assets. Skeptics will simply write off the stock if not much information is given on their investments.    Moreover profits for past 3 years are not really fantastic, infact have declined year on year.    I think that' s the main issue with this stock. The other issue is the flight of key shareholder- what is the reason?  These are the reasons I can think of.
The light at the end of the tunnel could be some shift in Chinese government' s strict covid rules, it looks like the mass white paper protests may likely bring an end to the foolhardy move to control the spread of an uncontrollable agent. Next thing we may see mass opposition in the form of strikes. USSR was brought down by strikes. Xi' s position looks precarious.
 

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 Alert Admin 		It would be good if YZJ is more transparent about their assets. Skeptics will simply write off the stock if not much information is given on their investments.    Moreover profits for past 3 years are not really fantastic, infact have declined year on year.    I think that' s the main issue with this stock. The other issue is the flight of key shareholder- what is the reason?  These are the reasons I can think of.
The light at the end of the tunnel could be some shift in Chinese government' s strict covid rules, it looks like the mass white paper protests may likely bring an end to the foolhardy move to control the spread of an uncontrollable agent. Next thing we may see mass opposition in the form of strikes. USSR was brought down by strikes. Xi' s position looks precarious.
 
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From the SGX filings by YZJ fin hldgs.

Our Group&rsquo s current and envisaged operations are concentrated in the Asia-Pacific region, mainly in Singapore and the PRC, and are subject to country-specific risks, including political, regulatory, economic and currency risks.
 
Changes in the political, social and economic policies of the PRC government may materially and adversely affect our operations
 
Our Group is subject to currency conversion/repatriation risks relating to our operations in the PRC
 
  Our business may be materially and adversely affected by the inherent uncertainties regarding the interpretation and enforcement of PRC laws, rules and regulations of new laws or changes to existing laws by the PRC government
 
 
 
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29-Nov-2022 21:11     
 
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 Alert Admin 		The SGX filings by YZJ fin hldgs tell you some of the PRC risks.https://links.sgx.com/FileOpen/Yangzijiang%20Financial%20Holding%20-%20Introductory%20Document.ashx?App=IPO& FileID=6378
 

Jandec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2022 20:54) Posted:

I think it' s because of the Chinese stock market performance. Superimpose the Shanghai Stock market chart with YZJ financial - very similar pattern.      Their investments are in Shenzhen and Shanghai stock markets.  Shenzhen is slightly different pattern of price changes from April 29 2022 to date as compared with Shanghai. Some are spooked by the events in China, even before this recent white paper protests. The way Xi presented China to the world is one of disregard for business and enthusiasm to engage in games with US.   

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 Alert Admin 		I think it' s because of the Chinese stock market performance. Superimpose the Shanghai Stock market chart with YZJ financial - very similar pattern.      Their investments are in Shenzhen and Shanghai stock markets.  Shenzhen is slightly different pattern of price changes from April 29 2022 to date as compared with Shanghai. Some are spooked by the events in China, even before this recent white paper protests. The way Xi presented China to the world is one of disregard for business and enthusiasm to engage in games with US.   
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